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Adam wrote on Thu, 18 March 2021 13:23

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 March 2021 17:06

Adam wrote on Wed, 17 March 2021 16:06


By the way - this is exactly why I'm trading one of the LH defencemen prospects if I'm the Oilers. There is ZERO chance that Dave Tippett is going to have two early 20s left shot defencemen in the lineup in the next couple of years while still having early 20s Bouchard on the right side. It just isn't going to happen, and if Samorukov, 15 months older than Bouchard and two full years older than Broberg, doesn't get a push in the next year or so, his value is going to plummet hard. If the team thinks he can be better than Broberg, make the call soon and trade Broberg, but they're not both making the team so we can't really delay that trade very long and maintain their trade value.

Question for you. Is there an instance where a team has done extremely well meaning division titles, winning playoff rounds and being a legit cup contender when at least half of their dmen are low 20's with barely any experience?

Bear wasn't playing well before he got the puck in the head and he definitely isn't playing well now. But unless I am mistaken, you like Bear a lot, think he should be playing a lot and think it would be stupid to get rid of him. Bear has 108 games of NHL xperience and will have 1.5 yrs of experience at the end of this season. I know he has some AHL while important, the NHL is a couple steps above the AHL.

Correct me if I am wrong but I believe you like Jones, think he should be playing and don't want him moved. He's not playing well, hasn't played well all year and has 76 NHL games total. So by the end of this season he will have just over 1 season of NHL games.

Bouchard you are advocating for and correct me if I am wrong, if you had your way, you'd have him in for Barrie. Maybe not totally this season but for sure next season. You see Bouchard in Barries spot and would probably lose it if they resigned Barrie. Bouchard has 19 NHL games and even if he played more than he has, he'd have at most half an NHL season.

So there are 3 guys who don't even have 2 NHL seasons of experience that you for sure and lots of others want to see in prime time, preferably right now. I didn't even count Lagesson who has so har 20 NHL total. He will probably get to half a NHL season. Lagesson looks to be a useful dman who correct if I am wrong, you like, have use for and definitely want to see play over Russell.

So for the record, I am not looking for a fight, not arguing, not even really disagreeing with you per say. I personally and I assume you are the same as me, want/EXPECT the Oilers to be good from this season and season going forward. We want/EXPECT the Oilers to be contending starting next season. So if that is the case yet most want at least 3, maybe 4 really inexperienced dmen being prime time. How do they win with that many young dmen? I am not even talking the prospects, I am talking the here and now with the 4 I mentioned. I can't think of a team that either won the cup or was a legit contender that didn't have at least 2/3 of their dmen as fairly experienced.


There are times when I wonder if you actually read a whole post before responding.

My point is that it is extremely unlikely that we are not going to have a lineup in 2 years time that will include all of Bouchard, Broberg and Samorukov. All of them have decent trade value now, based on what they have done up to this point in their career - in part because they've all played in different places and haven't been in each other's way much.

The time is ticking on them though - the longer in to their career they go without making the NHL, the lower their value becomes. The Oilers have other needs besides defencemen, but we've seen this problem before - they aren't 100% positive who will develop and they're nervous that they might choose wrongly...so they don't move anyone until there's no value left. Right now, Broberg or Bouchard can get you a really good piece in return, and Samorukov probably a bit less, but still something. Move someone while those options are still available.

You're off on my beliefs about the defencemen above too, but I'm not muddying the waters by discussing it here.


I still think Jones is the one to trade...



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