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Gator21 wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 19:40

How stupid is this team!?!?!? You sign him to a bridge deal to save what, 750K? That’s ur just gonna piss away overpaying some other guy ie. Kassian who’s getting paid 3+mil to play on the 3rd-4th line. Why not just pony up the extra 750K and sign an 8 year deal like Morrisey so at least on the back half of the deal when the cap goes you get a couple bargain years. My god, different GM dame asinine decisions. The fact that these people get paid 7 figures to make these decisions is laughable. The level of incompetence that this organization has sustained for as long as they have is astounding

I don’t think 750K added to this gets anything long term with Nurse.

I have to side with Holland on this one. It gives wiggle room to make a push next season and an even bigger one the year after.

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Gator21 wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 21:12

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 18:56 Gator21 wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 19:40 How stupid is this team!?!?!? You sign him to a bridge deal to save what, 750K? That’s ur just gonna piss away overpaying some other guy ie. Kassian who’s getting paid 3+mil to play on the 3rd-4th line. Why not just pony up the extra 750K and sign an 8 year deal like Morrisey so at least on the back half of the deal when the cap goes you get a couple bargain years. My god, different GM dame asinine decisions. The fact that these people get paid 7 figures to make these decisions is laughable. The level of incompetence that this organization has sustained for as long as they have is astounding I don’t think 750K added to this gets anything long term with Nurse. I have to side with Holland on this one. It gives wiggle room to make a push next season and an even bigger one the year after. If by all accounts his iron clad comparable is Josh Morrisey who signed an EIGHT year deal at $6.25M/yr just 5 months ago then how the hell do you sign Nurse for a deal that only saves you 750K for only 2 yrs that walks him right to unrestricted free agency!?!? This deal is so mind boggling stupid I can’t even begin to describe it

It says to me, coupled with the 8M reports, that Darnell and his camp wouldn't go below 7 on a long term deal at this point. So in my mind this gives the team about 1.5M space for the coming 2 seasons and by all reports both parties are interested in a long term commitment with the next deal.

Also says to me that one of KRuss and/or Larss are going to be moved this summer.

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Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 20:43

Gator21 wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 21:12 Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 18:56 Gator21 wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 19:40 How stupid is this team!?!?!? You sign him to a bridge deal to save what, 750K? That’s ur just gonna piss away overpaying some other guy ie. Kassian who’s getting paid 3+mil to play on the 3rd-4th line. Why not just pony up the extra 750K and sign an 8 year deal like Morrisey so at least on the back half of the deal when the cap goes you get a couple bargain years. My god, different GM dame asinine decisions. The fact that these people get paid 7 figures to make these decisions is laughable. The level of incompetence that this organization has sustained for as long as they have is astounding I don’t think 750K added to this gets anything long term with Nurse. I have to side with Holland on this one. It gives wiggle room to make a push next season and an even bigger one the year after. If by all accounts his iron clad comparable is Josh Morrisey who signed an EIGHT year deal at $6.25M/yr just 5 months ago then how the hell do you sign Nurse for a deal that only saves you 750K for only 2 yrs that walks him right to unrestricted free agency!?!? This deal is so mind boggling stupid I can’t even begin to describe it It says to me, coupled with the 8M reports, that Darnell and his camp wouldn't go below 7 on a long term deal at this point. So in my mind this gives the team about 1.5M space for the coming 2 seasons and by all reports both parties are interested in a long term commitment with the next deal. Also says to me that one of KRuss and/or Larss are going to be moved this summer.

Who gives an EFF what his camp is asking or says they won’t go below? Maybe they said they wouldn’t go below 15 mil a year? So in your eyes this a 10M dollar savings. The fact that you’re trying to defend this deal is embarrassing. For the record I like Nurse...a lot but I do t line hurting my team with crappy contracts and sub par mgmt. Nurse is no where near a 7M AAV dmen. He’s a good skater but doesn’t always use it, he’s tough but doesn’t show that edge consistently. He doesn’t have a good break out pass or isn’t above average offensively. He isn’t a pure shutdown dman and has mental lapses in his own end evidenced but the absolutely stupid throwing the stick penalty the other night. So what exactly are u paying 5.5M a year for? A slightly above average dman who logs a lot of minutes on a team with no depth

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Gator21 wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 21:05

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 20:43 Gator21 wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 21:12 Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 18:56 Gator21 wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 19:40 How stupid is this team!?!?!? You sign him to a bridge deal to save what, 750K? That’s ur just gonna piss away overpaying some other guy ie. Kassian who’s getting paid 3+mil to play on the 3rd-4th line. Why not just pony up the extra 750K and sign an 8 year deal like Morrisey so at least on the back half of the deal when the cap goes you get a couple bargain years. My god, different GM dame asinine decisions. The fact that these people get paid 7 figures to make these decisions is laughable. The level of incompetence that this organization has sustained for as long as they have is astounding I don’t think 750K added to this gets anything long term with Nurse. I have to side with Holland on this one. It gives wiggle room to make a push next season and an even bigger one the year after. If by all accounts his iron clad comparable is Josh Morrisey who signed an EIGHT year deal at $6.25M/yr just 5 months ago then how the hell do you sign Nurse for a deal that only saves you 750K for only 2 yrs that walks him right to unrestricted free agency!?!? This deal is so mind boggling stupid I can’t even begin to describe it It says to me, coupled with the 8M reports, that Darnell and his camp wouldn't go below 7 on a long term deal at this point. So in my mind this gives the team about 1.5M space for the coming 2 seasons and by all reports both parties are interested in a long term commitment with the next deal. Also says to me that one of KRuss and/or Larss are going to be moved this summer. Who gives an EFF what his camp is asking or says they won’t go below? Maybe they said they wouldn’t go below 15 mil a year? So in your eyes this a 10M dollar savings. The fact that you’re trying to defend this deal is embarrassing. For the record I like Nurse...a lot but I do t line hurting my team with crappy contracts and sub par mgmt. Nurse is no where near a 7M AAV dmen. He’s a good skater but doesn’t always use it, he’s tough but doesn’t show that edge consistently. He doesn’t have a good break out pass or isn’t above average offensively. He isn’t a pure shutdown dman and has mental lapses in his own end evidenced but the absolutely stupid throwing the stick penalty the other night. So what exactly are u paying 5.5M a year for? A slightly above average dman who logs a lot of minutes on a team with no depth

I'm not clear who you're most upset about here - Nurse's camp for the outrageous ask? Holland for the short-term deal?

Nurse is a good second pairing defenceman, producing decent numbers considering he gets very little powerplay time. The rumoured amount - ~$5.5MM - is pretty good for that. Paying him much more gives us issues with the cap - in part because of previous terrible management, but it doesn't matter - we're really right up against it because the team has consistently overpaid people for the role they're in.

With Nurse, you have to consider whether he's got any chance of moving up or down the depth chart in the lifespan of his deal. At two years, it's a decent bet he stays where he is. Klefbom is under contract for another year after that deal is over, and he's clearly the top LD at the moment. He's only a year older than Nurse, and at 26, it's not that likely that the wheels are just about to come off.

Meanwhile the Oilers are high on a few LD in the system:

Jones
Broberg
Lagesson
Samorukov

Hopefully (you can't put faith in this with the Oilers brass unfortunately), the team is constantly measuring each of these players and has some perspective of how far they can climb and how they stack up.

Broberg is someone the organization had enough faith in to take well before his ranking in the draft, so if you think he's going to pass Nurse in the next 7 years, then you have to think twice about whether you want Nurse making big bucks for that entire time.

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Gator21 wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 20:12

Oscargasm wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 18:56 Gator21 wrote on Sun, 09 February 2020 19:40 How stupid is this team!?!?!? You sign him to a bridge deal to save what, 750K? That’s ur just gonna piss away overpaying some other guy ie. Kassian who’s getting paid 3+mil to play on the 3rd-4th line. Why not just pony up the extra 750K and sign an 8 year deal like Morrisey so at least on the back half of the deal when the cap goes you get a couple bargain years. My god, different GM dame asinine decisions. The fact that these people get paid 7 figures to make these decisions is laughable. The level of incompetence that this organization has sustained for as long as they have is astounding I don’t think 750K added to this gets anything long term with Nurse. I have to side with Holland on this one. It gives wiggle room to make a push next season and an even bigger one the year after. If by all accounts his iron clad comparable is Josh Morrisey who signed an EIGHT year deal at $6.25M/yr just 5 months ago then how the hell do you sign Nurse for a deal that only saves you 750K for only 2 yrs that walks him right to unrestricted free agency!?!? This deal is so mind boggling stupid I can’t even begin to describe it

I think Nurse may have an inflated idea of what he's worth. If he is saying he wants something around 7.5M long term or he's just gonna go to arbitration on his way to UFA, this is basically the compromise you have to make. He would get 5.6 in arbitration I bet, but then in arbitration you have to insult Nurse to argue why he's not worth X dollars and you poison the relationship.

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OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
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Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
Category 5 - Incredibly Musty