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"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.

5-14-6-1

"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."

97.

At some point you are what you're record says you are... a playoff team.

...this time, it's for real (isn't it?).

2 goals from the bottom 9 forwards at even strength for the 2nd time in a week?



Only issue I had with the game was Neal having 0 PIMs again. He is just incapable of replacing Lucic's toughness.

[Updated on: Sun, 24 November 2019 21:17]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 24 November 2019 21:15

2 goals from the bottom 9 forwards at even strength for the 2nd time in a week? Only issue I had with the game was Neal having 0 PIMs again. He is just incapable of replacing Lucic's toughness.

They can’t all be generational talents.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

What happened to all of my messages? lol (I guess it's been awhile) BlueSky: StefBarnes

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

Generally Disappointed.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.

5-14-6-1

"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."

Guys ( and I could give a rat's ass how politically incorrect that may , or may not be )..... It's a choice . It may be more difficult for some, but choosing to be a critic was the easy way out when they were playing crappy. I admit falling into that hole earlier ( 2008 ish ) , but quickly saw on this site, that it wasn't for me. To easy to look for / ignore the negatives, cuz they be right in front of you, The positives be where the joy be.
But it's hard to change. Thank goodness I had Oilfans... er.. I mean Oilcritics ...to show me who I didn't want to be. I mean, I certainly understood it, but it was not a healthy attitude for me... ( HULK SMASH !! TV ... sort of thing . ) I look to see how hard most of these guys ( players ) are trying... & some, I can see, are trying too hard to avoid a mistake. What boils my blood ?? Players who try to take the puck away from the opposition..... FFS Man!! Take the man off the puck !!

Anyways .... I digress. Trust me guys ... it's a lot less stressful and enjoyable if you let yourself become 95% fan and be a critic on 5 % of the time ( you gotta get pissed once in a while !! ) Life is fleeting . So is Glory . Cheer while you can. Just try and forget how much money they make, and what Katz has to pay them out of our pockets with ticks & merch. ... Okay my blood is rising ... enough !!

GO OIL GO !!

-Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
-Don't mess with old folks, they didn't get old by being stupid.

goffer48 wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 17:02

Guys ( and I could give a rat's ass how politically incorrect that may , or may not be )..... It's a choice . It may be more difficult for some, but choosing to be a critic was the easy way out when they were playing crappy. I admit falling into that hole earlier ( 2008 ish ) , but quickly saw on this site, that it wasn't for me. To easy to look for / ignore the negatives, cuz they be right in front of you, The positives be where the joy be. But it's hard to change. Thank goodness I had Oilfans... er.. I mean Oilcritics ...to show me who I didn't want to be. I mean, I certainly understood it, but it was not a healthy attitude for me... ( HULK SMASH !! TV ... sort of thing . ) I look to see how hard most of these guys ( players ) are trying... & some, I can see, are trying too hard to avoid a mistake. What boils my blood ?? Players who try to take the puck away from the opposition..... FFS Man!! Take the man off the puck !! Anyways .... I digress. Trust me guys ... it's a lot less stressful and enjoyable if you let yourself become 95% fan and be a critic on 5 % of the time ( you gotta get pissed once in a while !! ) Life is fleeting . So is Glory . Cheer while you can. Just try and forget how much money they make, and what Katz has to pay them out of our pockets with ticks & merch. ... Okay my blood is rising ... enough !! GO OIL GO !!

Wouldn't my posts be boring to read though if I went all doughy-eyed about the team though? How would I create any content?!?!

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

Or keep your post count the highest in the land ??!!

-Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
-Don't mess with old folks, they didn't get old by being stupid.

goffer48 wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 18:27

Or keep your post count the highest in the land ??!!

I did peak as the top poster (I think I knocked off g2k) for a while but I’ve been surpassed. I believe kr55 is more prolific than me.

Not sure if any of us would have passed HBomb though if the old posts weren’t purged. I think he had thousands more than anyone.

It’s never been about post count for me though. I’m pretty passionate about the team and I like talking about them. I doubt you’ll be any more emotional than I will be if they ever actually win again - although maybe it’ll bug you less to see Kevin Lowe strolling around the ice with the Cup over his head.

Hockey isn’t that serious at the end of the day and everyone is welcome to participate however they see fit. If you want to be endlessly positive then that’s great. If someone wants to be critical of the team and point out the issues - that’s pretty fair too.

Honestly I never have wanted everyone to think exactly the same as me. I like to argue these things so it would be no fun if everyone just agreed.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

Adam wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 19:26

goffer48 wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 18:27 Or keep your post count the highest in the land ??!! I did peak as the top poster (I think I knocked off g2k) for a while but I’ve been surpassed. I believe kr55 is more prolific than me. Not sure if any of us would have passed HBomb though if the old posts weren’t purged. I think he had thousands more than anyone. It’s never been about post count for me though. I’m pretty passionate about the team and I like talking about them. I doubt you’ll be any more emotional than I will be if they ever actually win again - although maybe it’ll bug you less to see Kevin Lowe strolling around the ice with the Cup over his head. Hockey isn’t that serious at the end of the day and everyone is welcome to participate however they see fit. If you want to be endlessly positive then that’s great. If someone wants to be critical of the team and point out the issues - that’s pretty fair too. Honestly I never have wanted everyone to think exactly the same as me. I like to argue these things so it would be no fun if everyone just agreed.

I think you got robbed. You were beyond 10k before any of us were close. Must have been from all the horcoff and mact defending

After that purge of posts from the origins of the decade of darkness I think Trump and NHL GTD threads have given me the boost need to break from the pack.

[Updated on: Mon, 25 November 2019 19:42]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 19:38

Adam wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 19:26 goffer48 wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 18:27 Or keep your post count the highest in the land ??!! I did peak as the top poster (I think I knocked off g2k) for a while but I’ve been surpassed. I believe kr55 is more prolific than me. Not sure if any of us would have passed HBomb though if the old posts weren’t purged. I think he had thousands more than anyone. It’s never been about post count for me though. I’m pretty passionate about the team and I like talking about them. I doubt you’ll be any more emotional than I will be if they ever actually win again - although maybe it’ll bug you less to see Kevin Lowe strolling around the ice with the Cup over his head. Hockey isn’t that serious at the end of the day and everyone is welcome to participate however they see fit. If you want to be endlessly positive then that’s great. If someone wants to be critical of the team and point out the issues - that’s pretty fair too. Honestly I never have wanted everyone to think exactly the same as me. I like to argue these things so it would be no fun if everyone just agreed. I think you got robbed. You were beyond 10k before any of us were close. Must have been from all the horcoff and mact defending After that purge of posts from the origins of the decade of darkness I think Trump and NHL GTD threads have given me the boost need to break from the pack.

Legally we have to call him “Horcoff the drug cheat”.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 19:38

Adam wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 19:26 goffer48 wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 18:27 Or keep your post count the highest in the land ??!! I did peak as the top poster (I think I knocked off g2k) for a while but I’ve been surpassed. I believe kr55 is more prolific than me. Not sure if any of us would have passed HBomb though if the old posts weren’t purged. I think he had thousands more than anyone. It’s never been about post count for me though. I’m pretty passionate about the team and I like talking about them. I doubt you’ll be any more emotional than I will be if they ever actually win again - although maybe it’ll bug you less to see Kevin Lowe strolling around the ice with the Cup over his head. Hockey isn’t that serious at the end of the day and everyone is welcome to participate however they see fit. If you want to be endlessly positive then that’s great. If someone wants to be critical of the team and point out the issues - that’s pretty fair too. Honestly I never have wanted everyone to think exactly the same as me. I like to argue these things so it would be no fun if everyone just agreed. I think you got robbed. You were beyond 10k before any of us were close. Must have been from all the horcoff and mact defending After that purge of posts from the origins of the decade of darkness I think Trump and NHL GTD threads have given me the boost need to break from the pack.

Hell yeah, man.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

goffer48 wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 17:02

Guys ( and I could give a rat's ass how politically incorrect that may , or may not be )..... It's a choice . It may be more difficult for some, but choosing to be a critic was the easy way out when they were playing crappy. I admit falling into that hole earlier ( 2008 ish ) , but quickly saw on this site, that it wasn't for me. To easy to look for / ignore the negatives, cuz they be right in front of you, The positives be where the joy be. But it's hard to change. Thank goodness I had Oilfans... er.. I mean Oilcritics ...to show me who I didn't want to be. I mean, I certainly understood it, but it was not a healthy attitude for me... ( HULK SMASH !! TV ... sort of thing . ) I look to see how hard most of these guys ( players ) are trying... & some, I can see, are trying too hard to avoid a mistake. What boils my blood ?? Players who try to take the puck away from the opposition..... FFS Man!! Take the man off the puck !! Anyways .... I digress. Trust me guys ... it's a lot less stressful and enjoyable if you let yourself become 95% fan and be a critic on 5 % of the time ( you gotta get pissed once in a while !! ) Life is fleeting . So is Glory . Cheer while you can. Just try and forget how much money they make, and what Katz has to pay them out of our pockets with ticks & merch. ... Okay my blood is rising ... enough !! GO OIL GO !!

So basically, you're advising us to be Positive Pollyanna fans. I get where you're coming from in terms of avoiding stress, but thing is that many of us (myself included) would like to see the Oilers win another Stanley Cup. We don't get too excited about participation trophies, because it is a competition like all sports leagues are.

So anyway, being a rose-glasses wearing fan is not for me. I'm more than a little bit tired of watching the team I follow finish low in the standings and be mocked for always being in the running for the draft lottery. It may have to do with the fact that this is how I cope with being a fan of a team that has made failure its hallmark for most of the past decade and a half.

"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.

5-14-6-1

"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."

Whatcha ya raggin' on Rags ?? ..... As if what "you people" say has any affect on the outcome of the season. .... And it really doesn't matter to me what anyone else thinks in this regard, because despite the critiques offered, I know deep down ,,, you ARE fans !!
Call me a Pollyanna fan if you want, that's just like water off a ducks back to me, and what makes you think I care any less than "you people" about the Oilers winning a championship..... I will likely be a lot more emotional than most of "you people" when it happens.
I just say it like that because I wasn't just harping on you Rags ...but just all "you critics" out there.
Enjoy the winning ways whilst you can. I was a season ticket holder in the last season of the WHA; saw 99 begin his stellar career as an Oiler, and looking back now, that time passed so fast, then the Decade of Doom was upon us, and although it seemed to take forever, it's over. And now we enter the Era of #97. You People ... you have to understand. It will be fleeting ... like Life itself. I'm not as old as Don Cherry, and probably a tad smarter ( not that this post may indicate that ), But I'm old enough that I can tell you I recall cheering when the Captain of the Leafs ( #10 ) raised the Cup to the fans at Maple Leaf Gardens. There were not so many critics then; we knew nothing of the players' salaries, nor did we care, really. All different now though. Sad . I've blathered on enough .

[Updated on: Mon, 25 November 2019 19:10]

-Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
-Don't mess with old folks, they didn't get old by being stupid.

goffer48 wrote on Mon, 25 November 2019 19:07

Whatcha ya raggin' on Rags ?? ..... As if what "you people" say has any affect on the outcome of the season. .... And it really doesn't matter to me what anyone else thinks in this regard, because despite the critiques offered, I know deep down ,,, you ARE fans !! Call me a Pollyanna fan if you want, that's just like water off a ducks back to me, and what makes you think I care any less than "you people" about the Oilers winning a championship..... I will likely be a lot more emotional than most of "you people" when it happens. I just say it like that because I wasn't just harping on you Rags ...but just all "you critics" out there. Enjoy the winning ways whilst you can. I was a season ticket holder in the last season of the WHA; saw 99 begin his stellar career as an Oiler, and looking back now, that time passed so fast, then the Decade of Doom was upon us, and although it seemed to take forever, it's over. And now we enter the Era of #97. You People ... you have to understand. It will be fleeting ... like Life itself. I'm not as old as Don Cherry, and probably a tad smarter ( not that this post may indicate that ), But I'm old enough that I can tell you I recall cheering when the Captain of the Leafs ( #10 ) raised the Cup to the fans at Maple Leaf Gardens. There were not so many critics then; we knew nothing of the players' salaries, nor did we care, really. All different now though. Sad . I've blathered on enough .

So, how much did you have to drink before you posted this? If we all took your advice, this forum probably would have closed due to lack of traffic sometime within the past 15 years. I was wrong, you're not asking us to be Positive Pollyannas, you're asking us to be bandwagon-jumpers.

"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.

5-14-6-1

"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."

-Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
-Don't mess with old folks, they didn't get old by being stupid.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

-Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
-Don't mess with old folks, they didn't get old by being stupid.

"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.

5-14-6-1

"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."

-Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
-Don't mess with old folks, they didn't get old by being stupid.

"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.

5-14-6-1

"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

-Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
-Don't mess with old folks, they didn't get old by being stupid.