| McLellan Out. Hitchcock In. [message #722722] |
Tue, 20 November 2018 09:31  |
 |
 CrusaderPi
Messages: 7803
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
6 Cups
|
|
TSN 1260 is reporting the Oilers made a coaching move, from Dreger.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
CrudeRemarks
Messages: 1703
Registered: November 2010
Location: Edmonton
1 Cup
|
|
WE DID IT!!!
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CrusaderPi
Messages: 7803
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
6 Cups
|
|
I'm glad McLellan is out. He was simply not a good coach for the Oilers. Hiring Hitchcock worries me, it reminds me of when they went out and hired Pat Quinn.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Suomalainen
Messages: 900
Registered: May 2002
Location: Boulder, CO
No Cups
|
|
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 09:39 |
I'm glad McLellan is out. He was simply not a good coach for the Oilers. Hiring Hitchcock worries me, it reminds me of when they went out and hired Pat Quinn.
|
Yeah happy on one account, but bewildered on another. I would have felt better had they given Yawney the interim (not GG) and kept the search up.
Feel that Hitchcock hire is 15 years too late.
97.
|
|
|
|
|
GabbyDugan
Messages: 828
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton, AB
No Cups
|
|
| Suomalainen wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 09:42 |
Yeah happy on one account, but bewildered on another. I would have felt better had they given Yawney the interim (not GG) and kept the search up.
Feel that Hitchcock hire is 15 years too late.
|
...pretty much my sentiments...hope for all the best for Hitchcock...alas, it probably is about 15 years too late, but I hope this works out, even though it will clearly be short term...
...stay away from those Rogers Place burgers, Hitch....and welcome home finally....I'll be pullin' for ya'...
|
|
|
|
|
|
Suomalainen
Messages: 900
Registered: May 2002
Location: Boulder, CO
No Cups
|
|
Don't forget - Hitchcock's connection to Nicholson via team Canada, so it's tangential to the Old Boys Club
[Updated on: Tue, 20 November 2018 10:00]
97.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
stemhovlichski
Messages: 349
Registered: March 2006
Location: NSR
No Cups
|
|
I think he knew the OBC when they were still the Bus Boys. He worked at United Cycle and did custom skate fittings and such. I bought a pair of VacuTacks off him back in the day, nice guy.
Had no idea he would be considered a viable coaching option in today's NHL. I think this officially nails the coffin shut on the season. The OBC in job protection mode, scapegoating and smoke and mirroring.
Restored: "We're sucking hind banana here." - Pat Quinn, Jan 18, 2010
"...the Oilers have been rebuilding for so long that it’s hard not to be cynical." - NBC's Ryan Dadoun Jan 2, 2015
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Adam
Messages: 7176
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
|
|
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 09:39 |
I'm glad McLellan is out. He was simply not a good coach for the Oilers. Hiring Hitchcock worries me, it reminds me of when they went out and hired Pat Quinn.
|
So do we have the whole management team from the 2002 Olympic team now? Quinn of course is gone, but once an Oiler always an Oiler, right?
Thrilled they pulled the trigger on the coach. Hopefully this helps - I lack confidence in Hitchcock. How’ve his teams done the last several years?
Hopefully it’s a stop-gap and everyone gets axed at years end.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
|
|
|
|
|
|
stemhovlichski
Messages: 349
Registered: March 2006
Location: NSR
No Cups
|
|
Hahahaha!!!!!!!!! Brilliant call.
https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/news/2000-nr-089-en
Restored: "We're sucking hind banana here." - Pat Quinn, Jan 18, 2010
"...the Oilers have been rebuilding for so long that it’s hard not to be cynical." - NBC's Ryan Dadoun Jan 2, 2015
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Jay
Messages: 567
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
No Cups
|
|
Good lord. Nope no nepotism here!
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
|
|
|
|
|
philly boy
Messages: 135
Registered: July 2007
Location: E-Town
No Cups
|
|
that's amazing
|
|
|
|
|
 |
nullterm
Messages: 1034
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
1 Cup
|
|
Gotta hand it to the Oilers. They give people what they want, but still find a way to make it a sneaky and unexpected curveball. I think Hitch will get more effort from the players.
Man it’ll be weird that first game with him behind “our” bench. All those years in the 90s vs the Stars.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
PoolParty
Messages: 29
Registered: November 2009
Location: Edmonton
No Cups
|
|
I think Hitch is here to ride the season out. Then we fire Coach Q a dump truck of money in the off season.
Side note im happy Hitch got his chance to coach the Oilers
This forum has turned into a pessimistic cesspool of bitching and whining about the same topics consistently.
#Adam #Kr55 #CrusaderPi #inverno76
#RDOilerfan is possibly reformed, time will tell.
|
|
|
|
|
RDOilerfan
Messages: 3908
Registered: January 2016
3 Cups
|
|
Based on what I heard ever yesterday when he was brought up, it doesn't sound like Q is ready to take a job yet. Money won't be a problem for him. He was doing shots on a ski the other day so that doesn't look like a guy ready to jump in to a job right away. He may just want to hang out and take some time off.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
oiler2112
Messages: 1
Registered: December 2003
Location: California
No Cups
|
|
I got an email about this and thought it was a joke! 
I have absolutely no problem with this. Despised Hitchcock when he coached Dallas, but that just means more often than not, he was out-coaching us and beating us. My only worry is, has the game passed him by?
|
|
|
|
|
 |
K.McC#24
Messages: 2834
Registered: March 2004
Location: ALBERTA
2 Cups
|
|
Yeo fired in St. Louis, so that's where I'd expect Quenneville to go.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
JPro
Messages: 810
Registered: January 2006
Location: Edmonton
No Cups
|
|
This will be fun to talk about, but with Chiarelli still in the GM spot, I don't see the team getting much better. The next 10-15 games will be fun though. Then back to the "How long before McDavid requests a trade?" thread.
|
|
|
|
|
stotto
Messages: 49
Registered: November 2015
Location: edmonton
No Cups
|
|
It had to happen. Hitch is an unexpected hire. It will be interesting.
I guess I will keep watching.
|
|
|
|
|
RDOilerfan
Messages: 3908
Registered: January 2016
3 Cups
|
|
Sounds like it's just for the rest of the season for Hitchcock based on what Rishaugh is guessing. We shall see.
|
|
|
|
|
bigEfromGP
Messages: 816
Registered: July 2006
Location: GP, AB
No Cups
|
|
Unlikely seeing that they already have Hitchcock signed, but did the Blues firing Yao influence Oilers brass decision?
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:17 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:00 |
The president thinks he has the ideal male body.
|
It's hard to disagree that he has the ideal male body.
|
|
|
|
|
|
philly boy
Messages: 135
Registered: July 2007
Location: E-Town
No Cups
|
|
3 things:
1. good job, kick rocks McLellan
2. bizarre replacement, they can't possibly believe Hitch to be a viable long term option
and
3. if everyone knows the roster (while underperforming) still isn't good enough, then what point does it make to "salvage" a season, if they're still 2-3 good young pieces away? Or are we simply of the mindset they can't afford to tank anymore, and they need to push for the playoffs regardless, and hope that what they have in the pipeline is good enough? I don't see anything overly encouraging on the farm aside from JP, not overly confident in how Hitch handles younger, developing players. And if they do have decent short term success this season and slip into the playoffs... then what? Re-sign Hitch long term?
So many questions. They need to tank this season IMO and kick Chia to the curb as soon as the season is done. How is this not obvious.
[Updated on: Tue, 20 November 2018 09:55]
|
|
|
|
|
RDOilerfan
Messages: 3908
Registered: January 2016
3 Cups
|
|
If you are Katz and you have to pay McLellan the remaining part of his 3 mill salary this year plus one more year of 3 mill for next year, I don't think you are giving the green light to spend 5-6 mill on Q if he would come until you see what happens with letting McLellan go. If the Oilers miss the playoffs, the GM might not be hear so how can you authorize letting Chia hire another long term guy.
Dreger just said Hitch's status as the coach will be reevaluated at the end of the season. I thought Hitchcock was retired so I am guessing he comes in, stays for the rest of the year, then continues being retired.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
OilPeg
Messages: 71
Registered: December 2010
Location: Winnipeg
No Cups
|
|
Geeze, Hitch can't even get retirement right. Isn't this now his third return from retirement?
I'm just glad McLellan is out, he's a terrible coach.
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 02 June 2012 00:29 |
But he (Belanger)'s as soft as room temp. margarine.
|
| Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 16 March 2021 18:49 |
Turris in the BOA will be like an ice cube in the Sahara.
|
|
|
|
|
|
GabbyDugan
Messages: 828
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton, AB
No Cups
|
|
...from the Oilers website...gushes over Hitchcock's impressive resume, but like so many other things related to the Oilers reflects more on the past rather than moving into the future.....
https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/release-oilers-name-ken-hitc hcock-head-coach/c-302127280
...I still won't say anything negative about Ken Hitchcock the person and hockey guru....wishing him all the best, and still wishing he would replace Don Cherry on HNIC after he completes the season in Edmonton....
...Go out a winner, Hitch....
|
|
|
|
|
 |
WhoreableGuy
Messages: 592
Registered: August 2006
Location: Calgary
No Cups
|
|
| philly boy wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 09:52 |
3. if everyone knows the roster (while underperforming) still isn't good enough, then what point does it make to "salvage" a season, if they're still 2-3 good young pieces away? Or are we simply of the mindset they can't afford to tank anymore, and they need to push for the playoffs regardless, and hope that what they have in the pipeline is good enough? I don't see anything overly encouraging on the farm aside from JP, not overly confident in how Hitch handles younger, developing players.
|
2 games played for JP, 1 goal and 1 assist. Are you expecting him to score at a higher rate down in the AHL?
"Bah Gawd! Would somebody stop the damn draft!"
- Jim Ross calling the NHL Draft Lotto 2015 as the Oilers win
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Lesterpolyester
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2006
Location: Saskatoon
No Cups
|
|
I think he lost the team but that being said he was Coaching the team that he was provided.
|
|
|
|
|
RDOilerfan
Messages: 3908
Registered: January 2016
3 Cups
|
|
All the hockey insiders are now reporting that Hitch has signed for the remainder of the season. This is a wake up call for the team. You know he will challenge the players because that is what he does. Personally, even though the roster isn't good enough, I think there are a bunch of guys on the team that could use a kick in the ass. The big thing is, if the future of the GM is in question which I assume it is if they miss the playoffs. The owner will not want to be letting Chia hire a new long term coach if he may not be here.
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
inverno76
Messages: 2343
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
2 Cups
|
|
MacLellan lost 30lbs as the Oilers coach. Hitchcock will be meth skinny by January.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Ragnarok73
Messages: 2419
Registered: February 2011
2 Cups
|
|
| Magnum wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 15:47 |
| Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 15:44 |
| shootsaverebound wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 15:33 |
This made me cry laughing... thanks for that 
McLellan lost the team last year IMO, and hiring new assistant coaches was clearly not going to fix that. Hitch has a good track record and respect around the league. I might just be back on the kool-aid though....
|
The scuttlebutt from the team was that TMac was not letting his new assistants do their job, particularly Vivieros on the PP, hence their continued failure this season so far. If so, then that alone was reason to see TMac gone, if more reasons were actually needed.
|
The power play not being fixed made everyone aware who/what the cause of the problem was with the power play. It seems odd that Todd wouldn't have stepped back and let someone else help.
Woodcroft vindicated?
|
Not if Jay was the guy who created the system they currently use and fail with. Viveiros could turn out to be the savior of the team's PP if Hitch lets him actually do his job. I suspect Hitch will mainly because he himself will be far too busy working on improving the team's defensive zone coverage to take pressure off Talbot and Koskinen, not to mention instilling the kind of work ethic his teams are generally known for.
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
5-14-6-1
"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
|
|
|
|
|
|
OilPeg
Messages: 71
Registered: December 2010
Location: Winnipeg
No Cups
|
|
| Lesterpolyester wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 11:05 |
I think he lost the team but that being said he was Coaching the team that he was provided.
|
You're right, and now Chia's insulation is gone. He's next for sure and when it happens, it won't be soon enough.
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 02 June 2012 00:29 |
But he (Belanger)'s as soft as room temp. margarine.
|
| Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 16 March 2021 18:49 |
Turris in the BOA will be like an ice cube in the Sahara.
|
|
|
|
|
|
RDOilerfan
Messages: 3908
Registered: January 2016
3 Cups
|
|
I hope that Hitchcock will let Viverios run the PP which I thought was one of the reasons he was brought in. According to Gregor who was just on Lowetides show, he has talked to players and they said he doesn't run the PP which is dumb.
The roster isn't good enough but there are guys on this team that need a boot in the ass as well. Lucic being #1, Kassian, Brodziak, Khaira, Nurse, Benning, Rattie. I might even put Nuge in there as take him away from McDavid and what as he done plus he has only 4 goals.
|
|
|
|
|
|
K.McC#24
Messages: 2834
Registered: March 2004
Location: ALBERTA
2 Cups
|
|
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 10:33 |
I hope that Hitchcock will let Viverios run the PP which I thought was one of the reasons he was brought in. According to Gregor who was just on Lowetides show, he has talked to players and they said he doesn't run the PP which is dumb.
The roster isn't good enough but there are guys on this team that need a boot in the ass as well. Lucic being #1, Kassian, Brodziak, Khaira, Nurse, Benning, Rattie. I might even put Nuge in there as take him away from McDavid and what as he done plus he has only 4 goals.
|
I'd probably throw LD in that list as well. You can't just haul ass on the ice when you're looking for a feed from Connor on a 2 on 1, and coast/be stationary for most of the rest of the time.
|
|
|
|
|
RDOilerfan
Messages: 3908
Registered: January 2016
3 Cups
|
|
| K.McC#24 wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 10:41 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 10:33 |
I hope that Hitchcock will let Viverios run the PP which I thought was one of the reasons he was brought in. According to Gregor who was just on Lowetides show, he has talked to players and they said he doesn't run the PP which is dumb.
The roster isn't good enough but there are guys on this team that need a boot in the ass as well. Lucic being #1, Kassian, Brodziak, Khaira, Nurse, Benning, Rattie. I might even put Nuge in there as take him away from McDavid and what as he done plus he has only 4 goals.
|
I'd probably throw LD in that list as well. You can't just haul ass on the ice when you're looking for a feed from Connor on a 2 on 1, and coast/be stationary for most of the rest of the time.
|
I would agree with you on Leon. With McDavid, he is fantastic. I also think that when he is center his own line, he at time CAN look dominate but he doesn't do it all the time and he doesn't always play with enough structure. The Oilers need McDavid and Leon going all the time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
K.McC#24
Messages: 2834
Registered: March 2004
Location: ALBERTA
2 Cups
|
|
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 11:51 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 10:41 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 10:33 |
I hope that Hitchcock will let Viverios run the PP which I thought was one of the reasons he was brought in. According to Gregor who was just on Lowetides show, he has talked to players and they said he doesn't run the PP which is dumb.
The roster isn't good enough but there are guys on this team that need a boot in the ass as well. Lucic being #1, Kassian, Brodziak, Khaira, Nurse, Benning, Rattie. I might even put Nuge in there as take him away from McDavid and what as he done plus he has only 4 goals.
|
I'd probably throw LD in that list as well. You can't just haul ass on the ice when you're looking for a feed from Connor on a 2 on 1, and coast/be stationary for most of the rest of the time.
|
I would agree with you on Leon. With McDavid, he is fantastic. I also think that when he is center his own line, he at time CAN look dominate but he doesn't do it all the time and he doesn't always play with enough structure. The Oilers need McDavid and Leon going all the time.
|
I'm hoping it comes with maturity for Leon. Maybe become headier as a center in terms of choices in distributing the puck as well. He's one of those guys that you watch and think there is a player in there that could be among the very few of the elite, and you come away many nights thinking there's more there to give.
|
|
|
|
