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 Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722354]
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From twitter via TSN 1260: The Oilers traded Strome (Eberle) for Ryan Spooner. One for one. Asset management

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722355 is a reply to message #722354 ]
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Soooo....Eberle for Spooner.
doh

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722357 is a reply to message #722355 ]
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WOW. I had no clue this was coming. Listening to Stauffer, I am guessing the Rangers would eat a little salary to make the money match. I could careless if he is right or left handed, just play well. Had 41 pts last year, a slight up tick from Strome.

Does anyone know if he skates better than Strome?

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722356 is a reply to message #722354 ]
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Spooner is left handed.
Doesn't score as much.
Ufa after this year, Strome was under control.
Makes 4 million. Higher cap hit. EDIT: sounds like nyr retaining salary.

Another Chiarelli one for one special.

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722358 is a reply to message #722356 ]
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Oilertime wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 13:38

Spooner is left handed.
Doesn't score as much.
Ufa after this year, Strome was under control.
Makes 4 million. Higher cap hit. EDIT: sounds like nyr retaining salary.

Another Chiarelli one for one special.


Chia knew him from Boston... so, must be good.

Maybe making room for something bigger, please?

Ryan S for Ryan S, maybe Chia thought no one would notice. Probably won't notice the difference on the score sheet. They both have done next to nothing this year.

It's fitting that Strome would get traded for a player and cap space, we all know that cap space scores a lot of goals.

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722359 is a reply to message #722358 ]
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Rishaugh tweeted the Rangers retained 900K to make the money the same. Maybe a change of scenery will help both guys. Moving around deck chairs to me.

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722384 is a reply to message #722359 ]
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Nah, Strome is just terrible. Spooner has had some decent seasons.

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722386 is a reply to message #722384 ]
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HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 16:50

Nah, Strome is just terrible. Spooner has had some decent seasons.


Their peak season isn't much different. Strome had 50 points in 2014-15, Spooner 49 points in 2015-16.

Strome is 0.45 points per game though over his career, to 0.55 for Spooner. Neither is going to light the world on fire.

I don't think that Strome is junk. I think that expectations on Strome were unreasonable. He's a third line player - and a pretty decent one. He is going to score 30-35 points most seasons, and he can step up and play in the top six in a pinch. The problem for him is that the Oilers traded a first line right winger for a third liner straight up, on the hopes that his peak season wasn't a fluke and that he'd suddenly land in Edmonton as a 50+ point player who was slightly bigger and better defensively than Eberle. Management, of course, should have known better.

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722360 is a reply to message #722354 ]
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Spooner had good chemistry with Lucic when Krejci went down a few years ago. I'm assuming that is what Chia is hoping will happen here. And I'm doubting it will.

Whatever, Strome is to hockey player what McLellan is to hockey coach. Super Meh.

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722361 is a reply to message #722360 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 13:45

Spooner had good chemistry with Lucic when Krejci went down a few years ago. I'm assuming that is what Chia is hoping will happen here. And I'm doubting it will.

Whatever, Strome is to hockey player what McLellan is to hockey coach. Super Meh.


Oh boy! What a treat! Chia's building the team around Lucic. Nice yawn

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722362 is a reply to message #722361 ]
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Magnum wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 13:47

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 13:45

Spooner had good chemistry with Lucic when Krejci went down a few years ago. I'm assuming that is what Chia is hoping will happen here. And I'm doubting it will.

Whatever, Strome is to hockey player what McLellan is to hockey coach. Super Meh.


Oh boy! What a treat! Chia's building the team around Lucic. Nice yawn


I hope it works, so we can be saved from another multi-month run of Lucic on the top line while the whole team tries to get him a goal so he can feel better about himself.

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722364 is a reply to message #722362 ]
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Strome wasn't working here so why not try someone else? I don't see this as a negative. I saw a tweet from Nielsen saying "Oilers had control" of Strome and Spooner was a UFA after next season. Why should that be a concern to the Oilers or any team. The goal should be building the best possible team, worrying about losing control of a player who hasn't been very good shouldn't be an issue.

Sounds like Spooner is faster which the Oilers need more speed.

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722365 is a reply to message #722364 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 13:51

Strome wasn't working here so why not try someone else? I don't see this as a negative. I saw a tweet from Nielsen saying "Oilers had control" of Strome and Spooner was a UFA after next season. Why should that be a concern to the Oilers or any team. The goal should be building the best possible team, worrying about losing control of a player who hasn't been very good shouldn't be an issue.

Sounds like Spooner is faster which the Oilers need more speed.


We didn't give up much. You can get Strome's every summer for 3.1M or less. His only value was on principle for this org, how we gave up Eberle for him.

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 13:53

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 13:51

Strome wasn't working here so why not try someone else? I don't see this as a negative. I saw a tweet from Nielsen saying "Oilers had control" of Strome and Spooner was a UFA after next season. Why should that be a concern to the Oilers or any team. The goal should be building the best possible team, worrying about losing control of a player who hasn't been very good shouldn't be an issue.

Sounds like Spooner is faster which the Oilers need more speed.


We didn't give up much. You can get Strome's every summer for 3.1M or less.


My feelings exactly. The Oilers aren't losing anything. Maybe they can get a useful player. Add more speed. I don't care about losing a right for a left handed guy. If the right handed guy isn't bringing you much, what value is he?

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722371 is a reply to message #722367 ]
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.....like most of the rest of you, I'm okay with this trade but it doesn't change things much....

...how is Spooner on PK and PP??? ...not a huge point guy, so assume his power play contributions don't exactly set the NHL on fire...hope he can do something on the PK, either on the road or at home....


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GabbyDugan wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 14:09

.....like most of the rest of you, I'm okay with this trade but it doesn't change things much....

...how is Spooner on PK and PP??? ...not a huge point guy, so assume his power play contributions don't exactly set the NHL on fire...hope he can do something on the PK, either on the road or at home....


Supposedly he was pretty decent on the PP. Strome sucked on the PP.

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722366 is a reply to message #722354 ]
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Meh.

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In looking at his stats. Spooner looks to be the WAY more productive player. His last 3 seasons:
59GP - 41
78GP-39
80-49

Strome:
82-34
69-30
71-28

I hope it turns out. As I said, Spooner is definitely faster.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 14:06

In looking at his stats. Spooner looks to be the WAY more productive player. His last 3 seasons:
59GP - 41
78GP-39
80-49

Strome:
82-34
69-30
71-28

I hope it turns out. As I said, Spooner is definitely faster.


Reports suggest he's a faster more skilled player than Strome. His issue has been motivation and consistency. Obviously this year he has been getting nothing done, similar to Strome. Wasn't really for lack of trying for Strome though, he's just not very good.

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 14:08

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 14:06

In looking at his stats. Spooner looks to be the WAY more productive player. His last 3 seasons:
59GP - 41
78GP-39
80-49

Strome:
82-34
69-30
71-28

I hope it turns out. As I said, Spooner is definitely faster.


Reports suggest he's a faster more skilled player than Strome. His issue has been motivation and consistency. Obviously this year he has been getting nothing done, similar to Strome. Wasn't really for lack of trying for Strome though, he's just not very good.


I just have to wonder if it just comes down to Strome not being fast enough. I just want guys that can play and they need to get faster. Supposedly Spooner is faster.

Good old Nielson's reply to the trade was about Strome not getting time with McDavid. By Strome's own admission, he feels he is a center, not a winger and he was better as a center which isn't saying much. So why the hell would the Oilers play him at wing?

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I don't mind this deal on the face of it. Spooner is definitely the higher producing player.

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 Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722376 is a reply to message #722354 ]
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I consider myself an optimist when it comes to the Oilers.

But this deal will be another fail for Chia unless Spooner significantly outscores Strome.

When trading centres, the righty is always more valuable. It has to do with faceoffs.

Lucic likes Spooner? Well didn't Connor billet with the Stromes or play with Dylan in the OHL?

I would also love it if Chia could trade with more teams than just the three New York clubs.

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so 48 is greater than 57, or at least those are the approximate percentages. Next argument?

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Xombie wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 15:05

I consider myself an optimist when it comes to the Oilers.

But this deal will be another fail for Chia unless Spooner significantly outscores Strome.

When trading centres, the righty is always more valuable. It has to do with faceoffs.

Lucic likes Spooner? Well didn't Connor billet with the Stromes or play with Dylan in the OHL?

I would also love it if Chia could trade with more teams than just the three New York clubs.

And maybe outside of players he previously drafted

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Xombie wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 15:05

I consider myself an optimist when it comes to the Oilers.

But this deal will be another fail for Chia unless Spooner significantly outscores Strome.

When trading centres, the righty is always more valuable. It has to do with faceoffs.

Lucic likes Spooner? Well didn't Connor billet with the Stromes or play with Dylan in the OHL?

I would also love it if Chia could trade with more teams than just the three New York clubs.


I would only argue that there is a point where having a right shot doesn't mean much anymore. Like, when you can't accomplish anything offensively. Jared Smithson was a right shot :)

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Xombie wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 15:05

I consider myself an optimist when it comes to the Oilers.

But this deal will be another fail for Chia unless Spooner significantly outscores Strome.

When trading centres, the righty is always more valuable. It has to do with faceoffs.

Lucic likes Spooner? Well didn't Connor billet with the Stromes or play with Dylan in the OHL?

I would also love it if Chia could trade with more teams than just the three New York clubs.


So what good does a right shooting center do if they don't score any points and isn't a good skater?

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Liked Spooner in Boston. Was never a Strome fan. Wanted to like him, but he never did anything exceptional and was average at best most nights.

It’d be nice if Spooner was RH for the powerplay, but he’s a good option for added offence. Hope his reputation of being a lackadaisical player disappears in Edmonton. The city will rip him.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 15:32

Xombie wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 15:05

I consider myself an optimist when it comes to the Oilers.

But this deal will be another fail for Chia unless Spooner significantly outscores Strome.

When trading centres, the righty is always more valuable. It has to do with faceoffs.

Lucic likes Spooner? Well didn't Connor billet with the Stromes or play with Dylan in the OHL?

I would also love it if Chia could trade with more teams than just the three New York clubs.


So what good does a right shooting center do if they don't score any points and isn't a good skater?


I don't think either the Oilers or Strome used his right-handedness to effect. You have to look at results.

Strome was kind of my underdog on the team, wanted him to do well, wasn't really getting any results.....not for lack of try. He had the try....Lord knows we've seen guys come through here blessed with way more foot speed and skill that the GAF meter didn't move far off zero.

Hope this kick starts the 3rd line a bit. He's under contract for this year and next.

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We'll see on this one. Far from certain who's getting the best of this. Both players struggling offensively this year. Historically, Strome's better defensively, and Spooner provides a little more offensively. Spooner's slightly older, but not ancient, and he's a UFA at the end of his deal, while Strome is RFA still when his expires. Of course, when the deals end, there's an excellent chance that the Oilers are left with nothing from this...

Spooner doesn't carry the stigma of having been traded one-for-one for Jordan Eberle at least...It will be easier to carry the comparison to Ryan Strome. That's probably part of the appeal for Chiarelli too, as I'm sure he'd love that comparison to end too.

I was listening to the latest 31 Thoughts podcast this morning on the way to work and they were discussing John Stevens and the Hagelin/Pearson trade. Marek mentioned that old-school thinking was that you should give your head coach a trade to see if that changes things for the team before you fire the head coach...the Oilers are pretty stuck in old school thinking, so maybe this is one step closer to the end of McLellan's reign of error over the bench?

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 14:32

Xombie wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 15:05

I consider myself an optimist when it comes to the Oilers.

But this deal will be another fail for Chia unless Spooner significantly outscores Strome.

When trading centres, the righty is always more valuable. It has to do with faceoffs.

Lucic likes Spooner? Well didn't Connor billet with the Stromes or play with Dylan in the OHL?

I would also love it if Chia could trade with more teams than just the three New York clubs.


So what good does a right shooting center do if they don't score any points and isn't a good skater?

Well it's a face off thing. Like a south paw pitcher in baseball. Strome was a serviceable penalty killer. Faceoffs are important on the pk. Especially on a certain side of the ice. I seem to remember you got in an epic face off debate on here. Can't recall if you were pro or con reguarding the importance of faceoffs.
I can't argue with any of you guys, Strome was doing very very very little. If Spooner scores more (at all) this trade's a win. I remember in the old days a trade would sometimes shake up a team. I hope it lights a fire under the Oil!

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Xombie wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 21:17

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 14:32

Xombie wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 15:05

I consider myself an optimist when it comes to the Oilers.

But this deal will be another fail for Chia unless Spooner significantly outscores Strome.

When trading centres, the righty is always more valuable. It has to do with faceoffs.

Lucic likes Spooner? Well didn't Connor billet with the Stromes or play with Dylan in the OHL?

I would also love it if Chia could trade with more teams than just the three New York clubs.


So what good does a right shooting center do if they don't score any points and isn't a good skater?

Well it's a face off thing. Like a south paw pitcher in baseball. Strome was a serviceable penalty killer. Faceoffs are important on the pk. Especially on a certain side of the ice. I seem to remember you got in an epic face off debate on here. Can't recall if you were pro or con reguarding the importance of faceoffs.
I can't argue with any of you guys, Strome was doing very very very little. If Spooner scores more (at all) this trade's a win. I remember in the old days a trade would sometimes shake up a team. I hope it lights a fire under the Oil!



This is not an opinion on the trade...

It was me that RDOF got angry at over faceoffs (among a couple others)

It has been proven that OVERALL faceoffs are not that important. Taken the big picture they are a tiny indicator of team or player success.
Situationally they are important, specifically on the PK in your own zone.

For role players that are expected to be a key part of the PK the center needs to be above 50% on FO.

For star players like McDavid it is nice if they are good on the dot as it means you can leave them on the ice and not put a lesser player there just for the face off.

As an example, with 2 mins left and a one goal lead. If the Oilers take a penalty I would love to have McDavid and RNH on the ice as the forwards. IF one or both of them are reliable on the FO you dont need to put in a worse player.

If you have a right handed, good face off, star player you have no worry in any situation.

To the trade itself, trading a RHC for a LHC is WAY down my list of analyzing the deal. Over the course of a game your 3rd center is taking a handful of faceoffs, maybe one of two of those are actually important to the outcome of the game. Losing Strome in that situation is not an issue for the Oilers.


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Another wait and see. Not sure he can be that much worse than Strome although besides not being able to score much, Strome was an Ok third line center and a bit younger. A kissing you're sister kind of move. Not expecting much.

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Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.

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NetBOG wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 17:40

Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.


I'm triggered. If there was a way to throw Principe in on the deal, I would have been ecstatic. I know some like him and his whole deal, but I could do without the pregame schtick, the dumb puns, and the questions so soft they defy physics in their ability to remain intact from Gene's lips to whatever player's ears. If I never hear a question beginning with 'what's it like' or 'how good was it' or 'how did it feel' EVER again, color me happy. People in my house wonder why I'm in front of the game in the intermission and exclaiming "STFU Gene, you %*&^$$$@#!!!"

While I'm at it being triggered, if I never hear another comment from Kevin Quinn similar to "the Flames have the TENTH BEST power play at home when there's a full moon" and similar trivia, I'm smiling. Would end more profanity in my house.

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K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 18:16

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 17:40

Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.


I'm triggered. If there was a way to throw Principe in on the deal, I would have been ecstatic. I know some like him and his whole deal, but I could do without the pregame schtick, the dumb puns, and the questions so soft they defy physics in their ability to remain intact from Gene's lips to whatever player's ears. If I never hear a question beginning with 'what's it like' or 'how good was it' or 'how did it feel' EVER again, color me happy. People in my house wonder why I'm in front of the game in the intermission and exclaiming "STFU Gene, you %*&^$$$@#!!!"

While I'm at it being triggered, if I never hear another comment from Kevin Quinn similar to "the Flames have the TENTH BEST power play at home when there's a full moon" and similar trivia, I'm smiling. Would end more profanity in my house.

He’s an embarrassment. I often wonder if he watches the clips of himself afterwards. Especially the side shot. It’s like he gels his hair for that wet curly look, then falls asleep on a pillow, then goes on TV.

He tries to be relevant through his puns, but the douchebaggery always outweighs the content. Every time.

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g2k wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 06:20

K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 18:16

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 17:40

Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.


I'm triggered. If there was a way to throw Principe in on the deal, I would have been ecstatic. I know some like him and his whole deal, but I could do without the pregame schtick, the dumb puns, and the questions so soft they defy physics in their ability to remain intact from Gene's lips to whatever player's ears. If I never hear a question beginning with 'what's it like' or 'how good was it' or 'how did it feel' EVER again, color me happy. People in my house wonder why I'm in front of the game in the intermission and exclaiming "STFU Gene, you %*&^$$$@#!!!"

While I'm at it being triggered, if I never hear another comment from Kevin Quinn similar to "the Flames have the TENTH BEST power play at home when there's a full moon" and similar trivia, I'm smiling. Would end more profanity in my house.

He’s an embarrassment. I often wonder if he watches the clips of himself afterwards. Especially the side shot. It’s like he gels his hair for that wet curly look, then falls asleep on a pillow, then goes on TV.

He tries to be relevant through his puns, but the douchebaggery always outweighs the content. Every time.


I know a neighbour of his and it is my understanding he is a decent guy, but I sure wish he was more professional on the air. I think he could do it and give us a good analysis of story-line going into a game, but instead, he does a Carrot Top pun/prop bit that would make parents cringe at a junior high basketball game.

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I don't mind Gene's pre-game shtick, it's dorky and lame, but at least he's trying something and taking the time to put together a creative bit every night. I've watch enough hockey games with boring and generic intros to know I don't need that.

His softball intermission and post-game questions can pound sand. I know he's kind of paid by the team so he can't be too interesting, but I'm sure there's something he could do in terms of mid-game analysis in his two question window.

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CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 11:58

I don't mind Gene's pre-game shtick, it's dorky and lame, but at least he's trying something and taking the time to put together a creative bit every night. I've watch enough hockey games with boring and generic intros to know I don't need that.

His softball intermission and post-game questions can pound sand. I know he's kind of paid by the team so he can't be too interesting, but I'm sure there's something he could do in terms of mid-game analysis in his two question window.


He's a dorky fan boy. I don't honestly get why anyone would be angry at him :) He just really likes his Oilers and is doing his dream job, and I think he is trying to lighten things up for Oilers fans who have seen so much stupidity and failure too. THe only think that annoys me about him is how he has to ALWAYS put his grubby mitts on every players milestone pucks. Stop that Gene!

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Pseudoreality wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 11:49

g2k wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 06:20

K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 18:16

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 17:40

Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.


I'm triggered. If there was a way to throw Principe in on the deal, I would have been ecstatic. I know some like him and his whole deal, but I could do without the pregame schtick, the dumb puns, and the questions so soft they defy physics in their ability to remain intact from Gene's lips to whatever player's ears. If I never hear a question beginning with 'what's it like' or 'how good was it' or 'how did it feel' EVER again, color me happy. People in my house wonder why I'm in front of the game in the intermission and exclaiming "STFU Gene, you %*&^$$$@#!!!"

While I'm at it being triggered, if I never hear another comment from Kevin Quinn similar to "the Flames have the TENTH BEST power play at home when there's a full moon" and similar trivia, I'm smiling. Would end more profanity in my house.

He’s an embarrassment. I often wonder if he watches the clips of himself afterwards. Especially the side shot. It’s like he gels his hair for that wet curly look, then falls asleep on a pillow, then goes on TV.

He tries to be relevant through his puns, but the douchebaggery always outweighs the content. Every time.


I know a neighbour of his and it is my understanding he is a decent guy, but I sure wish he was more professional on the air. I think he could do it and give us a good analysis of story-line going into a game, but instead, he does a Carrot Top pun/prop bit that would make parents cringe at a junior high basketball game.


I'm going to step in here and just defend Gene a little bit. I don't mind his puns, but I do understand how that could be annoying for some people.

I've had a couple run ins with him and they've all been good, but I've also heard positive things about him from others are well.

I do think he is an absolute professional. He is always prepared, he always brings something unique. Most of all, I can see the respect that players have for him. All of the Oilers who return to Edmonton are on a first name basis with him and are quick to say hello and thank-you. He knows how to handle sensitive situations with grace (remember the Maroon interview when he broke down playing in front of his son)... there's been several instances where he has been able to gracefully guide a difficult subject of moment.

The flipside of that is, he really shouldn't have too many of those. His job as in-game host is simply to be entertaining. I've never really watch any in-game host give a high-detailed, in-depth, deep question interview mid-game. Players don't want that and teams won't grant that. It is intermission filler. It's very different than say, Remenda, who actually does have air time to make astute observations (rather than deep insight like, "both teams would like to get that go-ahead goal").

TLDR; Principe may have an annoying schtick for some, but he's absolutely professional, navigates difficult situations well, and has the respect of players.

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mightyreasoner wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 13:32

Pseudoreality wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 11:49

g2k wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 06:20

K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 18:16

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 17:40

Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.


I'm triggered. If there was a way to throw Principe in on the deal, I would have been ecstatic. I know some like him and his whole deal, but I could do without the pregame schtick, the dumb puns, and the questions so soft they defy physics in their ability to remain intact from Gene's lips to whatever player's ears. If I never hear a question beginning with 'what's it like' or 'how good was it' or 'how did it feel' EVER again, color me happy. People in my house wonder why I'm in front of the game in the intermission and exclaiming "STFU Gene, you %*&^$$$@#!!!"

While I'm at it being triggered, if I never hear another comment from Kevin Quinn similar to "the Flames have the TENTH BEST power play at home when there's a full moon" and similar trivia, I'm smiling. Would end more profanity in my house.

He’s an embarrassment. I often wonder if he watches the clips of himself afterwards. Especially the side shot. It’s like he gels his hair for that wet curly look, then falls asleep on a pillow, then goes on TV.

He tries to be relevant through his puns, but the douchebaggery always outweighs the content. Every time.


I know a neighbour of his and it is my understanding he is a decent guy, but I sure wish he was more professional on the air. I think he could do it and give us a good analysis of story-line going into a game, but instead, he does a Carrot Top pun/prop bit that would make parents cringe at a junior high basketball game.


I'm going to step in here and just defend Gene a little bit. I don't mind his puns, but I do understand how that could be annoying for some people.

I've had a couple run ins with him and they've all been good, but I've also heard positive things about him from others are well.

I do think he is an absolute professional. He is always prepared, he always brings something unique. Most of all, I can see the respect that players have for him. All of the Oilers who return to Edmonton are on a first name basis with him and are quick to say hello and thank-you. He knows how to handle sensitive situations with grace (remember the Maroon interview when he broke down playing in front of his son)... there's been several instances where he has been able to gracefully guide a difficult subject of moment.

The flipside of that is, he really shouldn't have too many of those. His job as in-game host is simply to be entertaining. I've never really watch any in-game host give a high-detailed, in-depth, deep question interview mid-game. Players don't want that and teams won't grant that. It is intermission filler. It's very different than say, Remenda, who actually does have air time to make astute observations (rather than deep insight like, "both teams would like to get that go-ahead goal").

TLDR; Principe may have an annoying schtick for some, but he's absolutely professional, navigates difficult situations well, and has the respect of players.


I agree 100%. Do I love the puns and props? No, but I appreciate his effort to be a bit different. Every pregame and intermission guy in his role is, for the most part, full of "how did it feel" and other softball type questions. At least Gene brings a bit of fun to it and some personality.

In a hockey universe of annoying media (for a bunch of different reasons) I like Gene for the fresh air he can bring. He doesnt pretend to be a know-it-all, insider, or tough guy.


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