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 New Arena construction! [message #625456]
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Thought we could have a thread to talk about the actual construction of the new home of our Edmonton Oilers! Scheduled to open September 2016 - we will have a new sheet of ice for the 2016 season. Only 2.5 years away

Someone has setup a webcam http://www.denis.lemire.name/yegarena/ , but I imagine something better will be put up by the city/katz soon.

[Updated on: Tue, 15 April 2014 08:03]


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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #625457 is a reply to message #625456 ]
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Quite a milestone from oh so long of a saga to get here.

Now I guess the next step for Katz is to find a competitive NHL hockey team to play in the arena. If nothing else, at least I believe his Oil Kings will play there.



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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #625461 is a reply to message #625457 ]
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yes, I hope we soon have a product to showcase on this new ice surface, preferably before the new ice surface is ready.


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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #625481 is a reply to message #625461 ]
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Is it safe to say we'll have the all star game that year?


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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #625500 is a reply to message #625456 ]
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feepa wrote on Mon, 03 March 2014 12:36

Thought we could have a thread to talk about the actual construction of the new home of our Edmonton Oilers! Scheduled to open September 2016 - we will have a new sheet of ice for the 2016 season. Only 2.5 years away

Someone has setup a webcam http://www.denis.lemire.name/yegarena/ , but I imagine something better will be put up by the city/katz soon.




I was hoping someone would put up a webcam, let's hope there is a more stable one put up that gives maybe hourly snapshots of the arena.. one can hope..

Thanks for finding that feepa!



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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #626527 is a reply to message #625500 ]
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Rocksteady wrote on Tue, 04 March 2014 09:00


I was hoping someone would put up a webcam, let's hope there is a more stable one put up that gives maybe hourly snapshots of the arena.. one can hope..

Thanks for finding that feepa!



@YEGArenaBuild has daily photos
https://twitter.com/YEGArenaBuild


Follow this guy: https://twitter.com/jforce1
He takes daily photos from EPCOR tower.



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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #626525 is a reply to message #625456 ]
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On twitter there is a guy by the name of @jforce1 that is posting pics of the site almost daily. His latest picture is this:

Day11:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiofZ6PIcAE0BSR.jpg:medium



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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #626535 is a reply to message #626533 ]
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Rocksteady wrote on Fri, 14 March 2014 11:29

On twitter there is a guy by the name of @jforce1 that is posting pics of the site almost daily. His latest picture is this:

Day11:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiofZ6PIcAE0BSR.jpg:medium


Is that the LRT station already built back there? Who knew that was done? Wow.

Usually the first 6 months of these big projects it just seems like they are digging holes and moving dirt around and nothing is happening, but once they start building it goes quickly.



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Team Dean wrote on Fri, 14 March 2014 11:36

Is that the LRT station already built back there? Who knew that was done? Wow.

Usually the first 6 months of these big projects it just seems like they are digging holes and moving dirt around and nothing is happening, but once they start building it goes quickly.


The LRT station has been there for quite a while, almost a year I think. The underground parkade that goes under the rink goes in first, they are..uhh.. just scratching the surface.

bu da bum tsssh.

[Updated on: Fri, 14 March 2014 13:05]


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LRT to NAIT scheduled to open April 2014, which includes the station in the pictures on this thread.

edit: sorry, that deadline moved to June 2014 now.



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Is the casino still open, it looks like its still there in the very bottom corner of the picture. I could be wrong. Does Katz own this as well?


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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #627911 is a reply to message #625456 ]
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Very nice, they are moving the dirt around nicely so far.

Maybe this is a dumb question, and I'm sure a less lazy person could research it, but the Nait LRT line goes from Nait to the arena, and that's it, nothing past the arena yet? It looks like the line starts here at the arena as I see no connection beyond the arena.

Am I blind or is this correct?

[Updated on: Sun, 06 April 2014 13:17]


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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #628153 is a reply to message #628147 ]
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It goes into the downtown LRT tunnel before Churchill station, and will go all the way down to century park from what I understand.

http://www.edmonton.ca/transportation/NLRT_to_Nait_Map_PG_rdax_474x700_90.jpg

[Updated on: Sun, 06 April 2014 14:21]


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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #628193 is a reply to message #628140 ]
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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #628195 is a reply to message #628193 ]
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Quote:

It goes into the downtown LRT tunnel before Churchill station, and will go all the way down to century park from what I understand.


It would make way more sense if it went all the way down to Century Park, but the Metro Line (NAIT) will terminate at Health Sciences.



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drummerinblack wrote on Mon, 07 April 2014 13:04

Quote:

It goes into the downtown LRT tunnel before Churchill station, and will go all the way down to century park from what I understand.


It would make way more sense if it went all the way down to Century Park, but the Metro Line (NAIT) will terminate at Health Sciences.


That was the original idea, but I've heard ETS is back and forth on the idea.

To me, it should be Clareview <-> Health Sciences and NAIT <-> Century Park... but I guess we have to keep in mind that one day NAIT line will go out to St Albert



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feepa wrote on Mon, 07 April 2014 15:41

drummerinblack wrote on Mon, 07 April 2014 13:04

Quote:

It goes into the downtown LRT tunnel before Churchill station, and will go all the way down to century park from what I understand.


It would make way more sense if it went all the way down to Century Park, but the Metro Line (NAIT) will terminate at Health Sciences.


That was the original idea, but I've heard ETS is back and forth on the idea.

To me, it should be Clareview <-> Health Sciences and NAIT <-> Century Park... but I guess we have to keep in mind that one day NAIT line will go out to St Albert


Two decades too late for me, but LRT line from St Albert to downtown would have made my life way easier going to UofA from Castledowns.



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 Re: Big day is today - New Arena construction starts! [message #628208 is a reply to message #628206 ]
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It probably should've been completed 20 years ago too. Something happened to this city from 1992-2003/5 where we kinda just did nothing at all but sit and hold on tight as the ship listed and nearly sunk. Now we are starting to see things built again...


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feepa wrote on Mon, 07 April 2014 17:25

It probably should've been completed 20 years ago too. Something happened to this city from 1992-2003/5 where we kinda just did nothing at all but sit and hold on tight as the ship listed and nearly sunk. Now we are starting to see things built again...

Lol. "Something" happened. In fairness, Jan Reimer was put in a tough spot between a cashed economy and Ralph Klein.



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Look at that skyscaper in the distance? I think it's called the Pearl. Nice to see a little density out there.


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build up not out, downtown and the river valley has massive potential, hopefully things continue to move along in all areas


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It's hard to tell from these photos, but these pits are 6-10 feet deep now. I drove down 104 avenue last night and was surprised at how did it actually was - I've only seen it so far via the images I post on this thread. The photos do not provide much of a guide on the depth.


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at first I was a bit excited and posted images everyday. That was a tad overkill considering we all have interwebs too, however, I will still post weekly photos.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlN2nMZCEAE8Ph-.jpg:large
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really large original: http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41766162/Edmonton%20Arena %20and%20Entertainment%20District/Arena/2014/4-April/04-14-2 014-GR.jpg



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Weekly sounds good. I appreciate the updates.

I love watching construction.



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I love cutouts, but that was is real awesome. Just seeing how the whole thing fits together with ice, crowd, and working spaces under the seating.


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feepa wrote on Wed, 02 April 2014 08:42


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkKPao-CQAAAXOi.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/YEGArenaBuild



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"rise up, rise up... come on feel the powerrrr!"

Love watching the progress, thanks all for doing it. (special hat tip to feepa our resident yegarena guru)



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Looking at those pics, all I can think about right now is:

Boy, that Epcor building sure has a lot of good points from which a sniper could solve all of our problems with two well-placed shots from a Barrett M82.

[Updated on: Tue, 08 April 2014 12:50]


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Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 08 April 2014 12:48

Looking at those pics, all I can think about right now is:

Boy, that Epcor building sure has a lot of good points from which a sniper could solve all of our problems with two well-placed shots from a Barrett M82.



.....and you just got the NSA interested in the Oilfans website.. thanks dude!

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Rocksteady wrote on Tue, 08 April 2014 13:03

Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 08 April 2014 12:48

Looking at those pics, all I can think about right now is:

Boy, that Epcor building sure has a lot of good points from which a sniper could solve all of our problems with two well-placed shots from a Barrett M82.



.....and you just got the NSA interested in the Oilfans website.. thanks dude!

icon_lol


Sundeep did that years ago.



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Boy, that Nait LRT line is a stroke of genius, I have renewed faith in Edmonton civic planners.
That one short LRT line includes the Art Gallery, EPCOR Tower/CN Tower, Arena, Grant Macewan, Royal Alex, Kingsway Mall, and Nait.

Brilliant. Well planned. And they have allowed for space for it to one day reach all the way to St. Albert. Almost like a real city.

Now if we could just reach the airport by train. But no, someone decided to put the Airport 50 miles out of town. Oh well, can't win all of the battles.



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Team Dean wrote on Wed, 09 April 2014 13:35

Boy, that Nait LRT line is a stroke of genius, I have renewed faith in Edmonton civic planners.
That one short LRT line includes the Art Gallery, EPCOR Tower/CN Tower, Arena, Grant Macewan, Royal Alex, Kingsway Mall, and Nait.

Brilliant. Well planned. And they have allowed for space for it to one day reach all the way to St. Albert. Almost like a real city.

Now if we could just reach the airport by train. But no, someone decided to put the Airport 50 miles out of town. Oh well, can't win all of the battles.

I thought that there were still plans to have the Metro line extend south all the way to the airport. That likely won't happen for a while yet, though. I like the idea of having a line going from Downtown to W.E.M.- it's about time.



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The Metro line is planned to extend all the way to the airport, if HSR isn't there first. Both the city of edmonton and EIA have plans for LRT/HSR in their long range plans.
The Airport isn't 50 miles out of town... and it won't be long until development of the city is encroaching next to the airport.

There's only one major city in Canada that has a train to its airport - Vancouver - and that's only of 2010. Toronto is just building something now.



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