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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread [message #829309 is a reply to message #829304 ]	Wed, 31 January 2024 10:31

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inverno76 wrote on Wed, 31 January 2024 09:47

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I supposed anything is possible. I don't actually think this is a serious conversation so I will leave it at that.

For the record, I don't want Nurse taking more chances. I think he is way better when he plays a more simplified game like he is doing now vs the all over the ice he played up until this year.

Would have been a move for last summer or early this season. Lots of DeMelo talk was everywhere because everyone knows the Jet's have a hard time with UFA's. Of course we were busy with far more important things last summer, like attracting orange beards.

For sure harder now. Maybe if the Jets hit a bad run and start thinking about next year. Sounds like teams are still scouting Dillon and DeMelo, again, because it's the Jet's and these guys are pending UFA's :) Not much talk going around with media stories.

Just hope Jackson/Holland are looking. We have a smart analytics guy in the org now. There is no way that there hasn't been some talk about Ceci being a bit of a drag on the group and on Nurse. Fingers crossed the org is exporing options.

Unless the Jets seriously hit the skids, I don't see them getting rid of 2 of their top 4 guys just because they are UFA's. The have Hellebuyck playing vezina caliber goaltending. They are near the tops in the West and the league and have been for most of the year. Maybe you are right and they have 2% chance at the cup but I guarantee no one in the Jets organization believes that given where they are at and how they are playing.

You keep the team together, take your shot, then worry about UFA's in the offseason. I get the narrative in this site is all GM's are idiots and fans are smart but I just don't see any GM of a first place team gutting his teams top 4 becuase he's worried about them being UFA's.

The Jets would hardly be the first team to make a trade of a guy at the deadline because they're concerned about next year as well as this year. If they're dealing DeMelo, then they'll want to make sure they get someone back who makes that deal less of a drop-off. If they believe in Ceci (which if they have good analytics, they probably shouldn't), then it could make sense for them. They get someone under team control in case Elias Salomonsson isn't ready to make the jump from the SEL to the bigs next year. And probably get some additional piece from the Oilers as well - an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick and suddenly your middling middle pairing defenceman isn't as untouchable as you once thought he was.

For a good GM, a middle pairing defenceman isn't the hardest upgrade in the world to make. There's probably 8-10 defencemen in the league who would fit the bill without costing an arm and a leg.

And you can target several of them at once - you're not just calling Winnipeg and hoping that you can somehow make a Ceci/DeMelo trade work.

I completely understand asset management. However, how many teams in first place and near the top of the league start shipping out UFA's, guys who are a big time part of their success mid season? It rarely happens. Not unless they are upgrading that position.

A Ceci for DeMelo trade I don't see as an upgrade for the Jets, I see it as a lateral move. Yes you get a guy who is signed for 1 more year but there is no way the players are thinking about next season. They are in the here and now and in the here and now they are near the top of their division and in the league and trading out a key guy would not go over well. It's not happening and that doesn't mean the GM is an idiot.

If you truly believe worry about assets is WAY more important than winning, then should the Oilers not be trading their UFA's as well? They have some guys who are upcoming UFA's who are playing extremely well and are key guys to their success.

Brown and Janmark. They don't make a lot, both UFA's. They are 2 guys who the coach BY NAME has singled out as being key reasons their PK has been near the best in the NHL. That PK is helping them win games. So they should be traded according to your logic right? Who cares about the PK, get assets for them, fingers cross your PK keeps going after trading away who your coach counts on the most and thinks is his best forward pairing.

Yes - I would trade Brown or Janmark for cheaper equivalents. Especially if I gained something else in that trade. Both are the absolute furthest thing from untouchables to me. Replaceable bit parts.

Brown makes 775 which is league min. You can't get cheaper.
Janmark makes 1 mill. 225 above league min. So you will struggle to find a guy cheaper who does as well on the PK and defensively.

I am very glad you don't coach or manage the team becasue your suggestion to dump 2 useful players in their roles, who are making league min or barely above it flat out stupid. All you are getting for those 2 is lower end picks and it's very likely anyone you put in their place won't do their jobs anywhere near as well.

On top of that, team defense is what has been sorely lacking from this team for YEARS. They didn't lose to Vegas last year because they couldn't score, they lost because their team defense sucked. In key times they couldn't kill a penalty or keep a puck out of their net. In the games they lost, they gave up 6, 5, 4, 5 goals. You aren't winning in the playoffs giving up that many goals. It's a fact. Good team defense and a great PK is what is winning them games and is the reason they might break the all time wins in a row record. Those 2 aren't scoring goals but they are a big part of the teams defense and especially the PK. The coach singles them out by name as being critical factors to the teams success. Yes you'd like guys on your 4th line to chip in the odd goal every so often but what is most critical is that line doesn't get scored on. They don't get scored on, that line doesn't get dominated and they create chances. I heard the number last week on a boradcast and I can't remember what it is but Janmark hasn't been scored on when he's on the ice in some ridiculous amount of games.

You don't trade useable players who in a defined role do extremely well, when they are making league min to get some crappy asset and probably replace them both with a worse player. That's what dumb GM's do.

I am completely confident that Janmark will be moved at the deadline along with another asset to upgrade the team's depth. Seravalli hinted that bonuses can be traded too, but I never followed up on where he got this nugget of info and I cannot validate his claim. If moving Brown can happen then he has got to go.

Janmark and Connor Brown are not elite PK'ers, or at least no better than many other forwards in the NHL. They are smart, can process the game at a high level, work hard and have accepted their roles as offensive black holes. Almost every top end PK guy is a very hard working and coachable. That can be re-produced. I give credit to the system and team buy-in over individuals. As for the coaches singling out the two? That is great leadership and public praise reinforces good behaviour. I hope all of the players hear an emphasis on what they are doing correctly and how it impacts the team in a positive manner.

I am okay with keeping Janmark even if he's worse offensively than Brown, but if one or both move I know we will survive. Brown and that cap bonus needs to go.

Maybe some of you guys don't value what the coach says but I do. I'm not on the bench, I am not in the room, I don't coach professional hockey. I don't have my team on a 16 game winning streak after going on an 8 game winning streak. I don't have my team playing top 3 defense in the league nor do I have them being one of the best PK's in the league for the last 2 months. When the coach singles out guys by name and says they have been keys to their success, I personally think that says a lot. He counts on them for certain roles and it's working. I think it's very important to fill a team with guys who the coach knows what he gets, can count on and he trusts. I think that's how you win a lot of games.

Now, I don't pretend to know the CBA back to front. I was under the impression that once the bonus was achieved for Brown, the Oilers are on the hook for it regardless if he ended up with the Oilers at the end of the year or not. To me, how they signed Brown, deferring his money is a bit of a loop hole in the CBA that lets teams circumvent the cap a little. So if you are allowed try the guy out, then if it doesn't work you just ship him out and you aren't on the hook for his bonus, it doesn't seem like that would be allowed. But I could totally be wrong on that. So for Brown, I still think he brings some value to the team, I think he will score down the stretch and in the playoffs but it doesn't look like he will be close to 4 mill of value. So in his case, if you can trade that bonus and someone will take it, them you probably need to look at it.

In Janmarks case. The core seems to like the guy. The big boys compliment him when he plays up. Supposedly the big boys asked him to come back and even take on for the team salary wise. I guess if he's part of a deal to make the money work to bring a legit upgrade at another position, you do it. But I don't think trading Janmark for a similar guy to save 100K is worth it. I am BIG on continuity and not breaking up something that is working really well unless you have too. If you can get a right shot, PK playing, decent sized, decent skating 4th line center and it costs Janmark, that's an upgrade to me. Sign me up. But to swap out 4th line winger Janmark for 4th line winger X who are the same players, just player X makes a tiny bit less isn't worth it to me. Janmark in his role fits with the team, gets along with the guys and does his role well. Slightly cheaper player X might not do the particular role as well or get along with the team as well. Not worth the risk to me, has to be a clear upgrade.

This is not meant as a shot to anyone but I don't think some of you take the whole "team" aspect as being as important as I do. I think some fans feel players are just robots who you can swap in and out and just carry on. In my opinion, you of course need good players but you also need players who get along for the most part and who work well together and know their roles. So maybe player X on paper is slightly better but he might not gel with the team as well or be willing to do the role the team needs him to do as well as another guy. This Oilers team for the first time in a long time looks like a very cohesive unit, everyone knows their roles, everyone is doing their part, everyone is buying in. So I am pretty hesitant to mess with that unless you are bring in clear upgrades on guys.

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Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Sat, 13 January 2024 14:41
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Oscargasm on Sun, 21 January 2024 11:04
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Sun, 21 January 2024 11:26
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NCREDiBLE on Sun, 21 January 2024 12:05
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: smyth260 on Sun, 21 January 2024 12:11
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 24 January 2024 16:57
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 24 January 2024 17:13
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 26 January 2024 08:57
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Fri, 26 January 2024 10:20
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Steve on Sat, 27 January 2024 07:38
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: PlusOne on Sat, 27 January 2024 16:10
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Sun, 28 January 2024 08:43
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Sun, 28 January 2024 13:06
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: PlusOne on Sun, 28 January 2024 13:23
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: PlusOne on Sun, 28 January 2024 13:18
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 29 January 2024 08:48
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Mon, 29 January 2024 09:28
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Mon, 29 January 2024 10:13
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 29 January 2024 10:48
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Mon, 29 January 2024 11:18
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Mon, 29 January 2024 11:37
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Mon, 29 January 2024 12:37
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Mon, 29 January 2024 12:45
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: CrusaderPi on Mon, 29 January 2024 13:22
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Mon, 29 January 2024 13:30
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 29 January 2024 12:58
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Mon, 29 January 2024 13:30
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Mon, 29 January 2024 14:10
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 29 January 2024 14:16
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Mon, 29 January 2024 14:34
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 29 January 2024 14:52
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Mon, 29 January 2024 16:21
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 29 January 2024 16:29
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Mon, 29 January 2024 16:50
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 29 January 2024 17:03
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Mon, 29 January 2024 18:20
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 30 January 2024 08:36
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Tue, 30 January 2024 15:14
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 31 January 2024 08:28
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Wed, 31 January 2024 09:42
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Wed, 31 January 2024 09:47
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Wed, 31 January 2024 10:05
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 31 January 2024 10:55
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 31 January 2024 12:12
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 31 January 2024 12:24
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Fri, 02 February 2024 09:57
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 31 January 2024 10:31
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Mon, 29 January 2024 13:29
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Tue, 30 January 2024 10:33
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 30 January 2024 10:39
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 29 January 2024 10:33
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: PlusOne on Mon, 29 January 2024 19:38
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NCREDiBLE on Thu, 25 January 2024 22:14
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Fri, 02 February 2024 08:52
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Fri, 02 February 2024 13:39
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Fri, 02 February 2024 13:42
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Fri, 02 February 2024 21:39
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Jakey on Thu, 08 February 2024 08:07
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 08 February 2024 08:25
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Jakey on Thu, 08 February 2024 08:52
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 08 February 2024 08:55
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Thu, 08 February 2024 09:07
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Thu, 08 February 2024 09:13
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Thu, 08 February 2024 10:14
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Mike on Thu, 08 February 2024 11:47
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Thu, 08 February 2024 14:09
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 08 February 2024 14:42
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Thu, 08 February 2024 14:44
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Fri, 09 February 2024 09:13
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Fri, 09 February 2024 09:31
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 09 February 2024 09:51
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Fri, 09 February 2024 00:09
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Fri, 09 February 2024 09:18
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Fri, 09 February 2024 09:29
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 15 February 2024 15:43
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 15 February 2024 16:03
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NetBOG on Thu, 15 February 2024 16:44
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 15 February 2024 18:14
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Thu, 15 February 2024 18:58
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Thu, 15 February 2024 20:46
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 15 February 2024 21:42
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Fri, 16 February 2024 11:32
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: oilfan94 on Fri, 16 February 2024 12:48
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Fri, 16 February 2024 13:09
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Fri, 16 February 2024 17:52
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 20 February 2024 09:06
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Tue, 20 February 2024 11:00
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 20 February 2024 11:17
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 20 February 2024 12:16
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 20 February 2024 12:57
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 20 February 2024 13:08
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 20 February 2024 13:37
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Tue, 20 February 2024 14:15
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Tue, 20 February 2024 12:49
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Mike on Tue, 20 February 2024 13:01
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 20 February 2024 13:16
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Tue, 20 February 2024 14:19
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Tue, 20 February 2024 14:34
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Tue, 20 February 2024 14:42
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 20 February 2024 14:46
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Tue, 20 February 2024 22:28
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Mike on Wed, 21 February 2024 06:26
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 21 February 2024 08:43
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 21 February 2024 11:02
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 21 February 2024 11:35
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 21 February 2024 11:50
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Perkele on Wed, 21 February 2024 11:54
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Wed, 21 February 2024 13:08
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 21 February 2024 15:11
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: smyth260 on Wed, 21 February 2024 15:23
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 21 February 2024 15:27
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Wed, 21 February 2024 15:42
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 21 February 2024 15:55
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Wed, 21 February 2024 16:54
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Wed, 21 February 2024 17:22
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Wed, 21 February 2024 17:46
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 21 February 2024 22:03
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 22 February 2024 19:37
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Fri, 23 February 2024 05:32
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 23 February 2024 08:41
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Fri, 23 February 2024 12:41
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: benv on Fri, 23 February 2024 13:00
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 23 February 2024 08:51
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: JPro on Fri, 23 February 2024 12:35
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Fri, 23 February 2024 13:30
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 23 February 2024 13:55
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Sat, 24 February 2024 13:45
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: PlusOne on Sat, 24 February 2024 14:00
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Sat, 24 February 2024 14:31
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Tue, 05 March 2024 11:35
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 05 March 2024 12:13
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 22 February 2024 17:39
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 23 February 2024 08:12
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Sun, 25 February 2024 18:11
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 26 February 2024 08:18
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Rowan Oil Fielding on Mon, 04 March 2024 16:31
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Tue, 05 March 2024 12:02
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: JPro on Tue, 05 March 2024 12:21
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Tue, 05 March 2024 12:40
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 05 March 2024 12:47
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Tue, 05 March 2024 13:22
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Tue, 05 March 2024 17:26
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 06 March 2024 08:17
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Wed, 06 March 2024 09:12
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 06 March 2024 09:49
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Wed, 06 March 2024 10:59
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 06 March 2024 13:18
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Wed, 06 March 2024 13:28
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 06 March 2024 13:31
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 06 March 2024 10:08
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Wed, 06 March 2024 14:06
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Tue, 05 March 2024 16:15
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Suomalainen on Tue, 05 March 2024 12:51
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: benv on Tue, 05 March 2024 13:06
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Tue, 05 March 2024 13:08
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Suomalainen on Wed, 06 March 2024 09:53
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Wed, 06 March 2024 10:45
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Suomalainen on Wed, 06 March 2024 10:49
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: inverno76 on Wed, 06 March 2024 11:02
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: smyth260 on Wed, 06 March 2024 10:21
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 06 March 2024 11:29
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Perkele on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:06
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:24
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:26
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:30
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:41
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:49
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:49
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Wed, 06 March 2024 12:52
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 06 March 2024 13:01
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: smyth260 on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:22
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:47
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: smyth260 on Wed, 06 March 2024 15:59
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:01
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:08
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Perkele on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:21
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:52
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: smyth260 on Wed, 06 March 2024 16:59
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NetBOG on Wed, 06 March 2024 17:26
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 06 March 2024 17:26
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Wed, 06 March 2024 17:16
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:15
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 06 March 2024 17:36
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Wed, 06 March 2024 17:38
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:17
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 06 March 2024 19:39
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 06 March 2024 20:20
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 06 March 2024 20:24
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Wed, 06 March 2024 21:24
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 06 March 2024 22:00
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 06 March 2024 20:29
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Wed, 06 March 2024 22:25
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 07 March 2024 08:14
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Suomalainen on Thu, 07 March 2024 11:38
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: smyth260 on Thu, 07 March 2024 11:52
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 07 March 2024 14:51
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Dragon_Matt on Thu, 07 March 2024 16:03
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 07 March 2024 15:02
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 07 March 2024 15:14
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Kr55 on Thu, 07 March 2024 16:30
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Adam on Thu, 07 March 2024 21:23
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 07 March 2024 21:45
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Red Rage on Fri, 08 March 2024 09:44
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Fri, 08 March 2024 13:49
Re: 2023-24 Speculation Thread	By: Skookum Jim on Fri, 08 March 2024 18:41
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