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 Re: 2023 - The Summer of Ken [message #824123 is a reply to message #824110 ]
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I think they will resign Ryan and Janmark for probably under what they made last year. I'd have no problem bringing them back.

I think they will try to resign Bjugstad as I think he fit in well but it will come down to what he wants. Either take less money and have a chance to win or take more money from some crappy team. I think some crappy will look at his 17 goals plus 3 in the playoffs and offer him a lot more than what the Oilers can afford.

Bouchard signing long term I think is a pipe dream. If he is fine to sign a long term deal at a range around 5.5-6 then I think the Oilers do it and figure out the money after. But I don't see Bouchard wanting to do that and if I was him, I wouldn't. I would sign a 2 year deal at around 3.5-4, similar to Dobson. That's a nice raise from what he was making. Then I rack up big points playing on the Oilers, maybe win a cup. Then when I am 25/26 with a couple of 60 pt seasons under my belt, I cash in. I think he gives up money right now by signing long term.

I think they resign Kostin and if he was smart, he won't go to another team. He hasn't found any traction with the Blues. He found a team that has embraced him, a fan base that embraced him and a role he excels in. There is a big risk he messes that up going to another place for a few 100K more.

I don't back the brinks truck up for McLeod. First I am not in favor of signing bottom 6 guys to long term deals. Second, I think he still hasn't established himself as a 3rd line center. I think he has all the tools to be a good one but he is still very inconsistent. He scored the majority of his goals in a couple short sections of games but went long, long spurts with nothing. He didn't get a single goal in the playoffs. He still plays a perimeter game way too often and I think your 3rd line center has to be over 50% on draws because he will get lots of d-zone starts and be on the PK. If they want to double his salary to around 1.5 on a 2-3 yr deal, that's fine but I wouldn't go higher than that.

I'd like to see them maybe replace Ceci but the 2 questions I have are:
#1 What is Ceci? Is he the guy that was not a high end guy but was pretty solid year 1 or last years Ceci. Plus how much of his drop off was because of his groin injury that he had for most of the season. Those can be very limiting.
#2 Who can you get to replace him that is better but also doesn't cost you much more. At 3.25 mill, he's got a pretty cheap contract for a guy that can be in a lot of teams top 4. Taking the Oilers being tight to the cap out for a second, replacing him at that price point with a better guy is hard to do.

Goaltending. I would be fine if they returned Skinner and Campbell. Vegas and the Avs the year before are proving you don't need elite goaltending to win. You just need decent goaltending with a good team. The Oilers are a good team. I see Skinner with a year under his belt being more settled. I am not sure he will improve on his regular season numbers but his playoffs I think will be better just because of experience. Campbell I think will 100% be a lot better. This isn't me going fan boy on him, this is looking at his career numbers. His numbers dropped a bit thanks to this season so he is now a career .910. He was at .888 this year. It's extremely likely he will bounce back to closer to his career numbers otherwise he's no longer an NHL goalie. I don't see a trade happening. A buy out makes zero sense because you'd have 1.5 mill on the books for 8 years and to replace him, you probably aren't getting a better guy for much less than 3 mill. So when you combine the cap and paying a guy 2.75 ish, you are getting little in cap relief.

The tandem as a whole is only 7.6 mill for the next 3 yrs which is reasonable so in the grand scheme of things, whether your back up makes 5 mill or your starter, who cares.

I think they need to do whatever it takes to get rid of Yamo and not take any salary back. For a bottom 6 guy who scores you 10-12 goals and does some PK, you can find those guys for under 1.5 mill. Janmark scored 10 goals, 25 pts in 66 games and was decent on the PK. I am sure there are other guys similar that will be out there looking for work on a winning team.

I like the player but I look hard at moving Foegele for the reasons I said above about Yamo. I think Foegele is a better fit for the team than Yamo but there will probably be guys available who can do the job that Foegele does for less.

I have said it before. Due to where they are as a team looking to win a cup, the Oilers need to stop looking at the players like Yamo and Foegele and even McLeod and trying to project what they might be in the future and paying them a little more in the hopes it will be a value deal. I they need to look at the player they are now, what role they will be and pay them accordingly. The gave Yamo and Foegele a little more because they thought they would produce more than they have. They haven't. They are 3rd line winger and 3rd line wingers in my opinion shouldn't be making more than 2 mill. McLeod, maybe has a bit better of a case but at best he will be a 3rd line center on the Oilers and in his NHL career. If he was established as a full time good 3rd line center, he should be making in the 2's. He's not there yet so he shouldn't making that.

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