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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 10 January 2023 13:24

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 10 January 2023 13:02


Holland's vision for this team is just completely busted and he's put himself up against the wall with the cap. How stupid was thinking "leadership" was the answer to everything, bringing in guys that only had 1-2 average performance years left in the tank with a core group that you needed to try to create 5-6 years of consistent success? Now his excuse is probably that those old guys are gone, so he's probably looking around for more old guys that won cups that he can overpay for and toss away some picks/prospects. Guy has no clue how to do anything but put on expensive bandaids. many of the "if water gets on them they immediately fall off" variety. There's no vision there aside from hoping scouting can find him elite talents late in the draft which hasn't happened for him for a long time.

We may be right on the cusp of Holland digging a hole that the next guy will take 2-3 years to get out of. And sadly, McDavid and Drai's deals expire during that time.

It's total stagnation. This team lurches through a cycle of blowing money on a shiny thing, waiting for Cap Space (intentionally capitalized) to come back, and then immediately blowing it on something shiny. We knew when Chiarelli was mercifully fired that the team needed two years to fix his contract mess. The second Holland had the cash he spent it on Hymen. Now Hymen is a fine player, but was he ever what this team needed? How many 3 million plus or 5 million plus forwards does a team need? It's endless.

Holland's calling card was supposed to be his long term vision and patience. This is season four of GM Holland in Edmonton, I'll let everyone decide for themselves if this looks like year 4 of a team built by someone with vision.


We hired a guy with zero patience in 2015 when we needed some good development and patience. And then when we needed a wheeler and dealer to contend ASAP to ensure 5 years down the road McDrai will want to stay, we hire the guy that was only successful by patiently waiting for elite talent to drop on his lap from the draft. Out of necessity he had to go chasing and try to do things he's never had success doing, coupled with having no real clue how to actually fix the issues with the roster which makes his job that much more impossible for him to pull off.

Hard to imagine a worse execution by Katz, Lowe and Bobby Burgers.

And now we're at the point where I'm not sure there is a person alive that could fix this team in 2-3 years. And it HAS to be fixed in a couple years in a big way.

[Updated on: Tue, 10 January 2023 13:52]


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