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 Kr55
Messages: 10555
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 10 January 2023 11:59 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 10 January 2023 11:21 |
| Mike wrote on Tue, 10 January 2023 10:46 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 10 January 2023 13:09 |
What's been the reoccurring theme for YEARS?!
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Management? Players have been churned for almost 2 decades with the same results. It starts at the top.
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Don't think I don't place blame on management, I do but at the end of the day, it's up to the players to perform. I am not here to defend Holland, he has blame but do you think he doesn't want the team to play better defense from McD down? I bet he does. So you swap out Holland for whoever you deem as a good GM and all of a sudden it clicks in that the team has to play defense when it hasn't before?
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Management builds the team. It's hard for me to look at this team and expect them to be performing much differently than they are now. Expecting individuals to magically perform well above their capabilities is setting yourself up for disappointment. So while you might not be here to defend Holland, that's what you're doing. This is his team and his team is badly flawed.
So if we swap out Holland, nothing changes. This team is this team. He built it and it's not very good. At least, not good enough to be a legitimate contender. The defense was BAD last year. Bottom half of the league in the regular season and porous in the playoffs. His solution was to hope rookies would fix the problems. That is on Holland. Expecting players who weren't good enough last year to somehow be good enough this year is foolish.
In before "we need Keith". The defense was bad last year with Keith, but even if it wasn't Holland saw him walk out the door and did nothing to fix the veteran leadership hole. That again is on Holland.
tl;dr: The problem isn't grit, caring, effort, work, fighting, or body language. The team isn't good enough to do what they're being asked to do. Holland is not a good GM. His team isn't good enough because of his decision.
Super tl;dr: Holland needs to go.
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Holland's vision for this team is just completely busted and he's put himself up against the wall with the cap. How stupid was thinking "leadership" was the answer to everything, bringing in guys that only had 1-2 average performance years left in the tank with a core group that you needed to try to create 5-6 years of consistent success? Now his excuse is probably that those old guys are gone, so he's probably looking around for more old guys that won cups that he can overpay for and toss away some picks/prospects. Guy has no clue how to do anything but put on expensive bandaids. many of the "if water gets on them they immediately fall off" variety. There's no vision there aside from hoping scouting can find him elite talents late in the draft which hasn't happened for him for a long time.
We may be right on the cusp of Holland digging a hole that the next guy will take 2-3 years to get out of. And sadly, McDavid and Drai's deals expire during that time.
[Updated on: Tue, 10 January 2023 13:14]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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