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Re: Review: Montreal @ Edmonton (Game #48) [message #783281 is a reply to message #783265 ]	Wed, 21 April 2021 10:09

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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 20 April 2021 20:46

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smyth260 wrote on Tue, 20 April 2021 10:46

Sure looks like the Oilers rushed Khaira back. I thought it was weird that he came back so quickly after getting KO’d. What did he miss, 2 games? And then seeing his head spin again not even a month later disgusts me. Clearly the guy was not ready to risk another head injury. I’m really disappointed in the Oilers and all the people who let that happen. A player’s long term health was put at stake.

I don't agree with you at all. If he got hurt, missed a few days, then came back and got another, then I would agree. He got injured Mar 15. Over a month ago.

Last nights hit was... did he even contact the head? Did JJ’s head just bounce off the glass? I didn’t see it live, started watching in the 2nd and just saw the highlight of it but it didn’t seem like anything really. Then it was like his skate blade popped off and he couldn’t stand without help. Concussions linger, and can be misleading as you’ll have some good days. But the effects are long lasting and the slightest shake can send you back to square one.

He had his bell rung. I would argue he came back too quick also, but it’s so hard with concussions bc it’s a rollercoaster in recovery and often one is all it takes to have the effects last your lifetime.

Not that I saw. As a former rugby player though I'm unfortunately pretty familiar with concussions. A solid shot to the chest can still cause whiplash, which, if you've had a concussion recently, can rattle your brain just as bad as if you'd taken a head shot.
If it were my call I'd shut him down for at least the rest of the regular season. Nothing good can come from playing him earlier. It's too bad, as his game had really come around too.

Problem with deciding when its safe to come back from a concussion, is that all a medical staff, and the player have to base decisions on are the presented symptoms, JJ might not present symptoms, to the doctor or to himself, but the effects can linger invisibly, not everyone who gets concussed is going to get more easily concussed again, different recovery for different people.

But now that JJ has some history, regardless of symptoms, they know now that he may be one of those who may be susceptible to another concussion.. I think regular season is prudent at the minimum, keep him away from contact, but when he is symptom free, get him on the ice practicing so he's available at some point in the playoffs. The fact he's feeling OK so soon is a positive sign.

I dont believe most of what you say to be true.
"is that all a medical staff, and the player have to base decisions on are the presented symptoms"

When my son was playing junior hockey they did baseline cognitive function testing at the start of the year. The only purpose of this was to measure recovery if they did get a concussion.
I can expect an NHL club would have better and more extensive testing and research available than a small city junior club.
While still not an exact science it isnt the way it used to be. Asking a player how he feels and once a headache is gone you put them back on the ice isnt the case anymore. A lot of players will flat out lie to get back out there, especially when a job/contract is on the line.

"not everyone who gets concussed is going to get more easily concussed again"

Every concussion increases the likely hood of another one and also the ease in which you can get once. Less force is required for #2, then less for #3, etc. This is likely an example of that . JJ wasnt even hit in the head but the whiplash seems to have been enough.

"I think regular season is prudent at the minimum, keep him away from contact, but when he is symptom free, get him on the ice practicing so he's available at some point in the playoffs. "

His long term health and quality of life is WAY more important than making sure he is available for the playoffs. Assuming that this is in fact a concussion, two in this short of time should be consideration for automatically shutting him down for the season. These werent little bumps, they guy was scrambled in both of them.

The sight of JJ stumbling across the ice was very scary. I wish the league and clubs took this more seriously.

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