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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| bath(i)robe wrote on Fri, 30 October 2020 10:04 |
I did watch Kevin Lowe the player (I know you were not taking to me with your post) but I still don't think he deserves to be in the HOF or have his # retired, and it has nothing to do with the disaster he has been in management.
I might be mistaken but I can't think of a season when I would have considered Lowe the best Dman on the team. Obviously he is behind Coffey until Paul was traded. After the Coffey trade I would think that Lowe would have still been behind Huddy and Smith as the Oilers best Dman (I don't only mean in terms of scoring although that is pretty important).
I could be mistaken and maybe I am "misremembering" how good Lowe was (I admit he was very good but not elite IMO). I would have said 20 years ago that Lowe shouldn't be in the HOF nor should he have his # retired and I certainly can't think of anything that has happened in the past 2 decades that would have made him more worthy.
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This asks an interesting question: If Steve Smith and Kevin Lowe's age was reversed and Smith was drafted in 1979 and Lowe in 1981, would Steve Smith be considered for the Hall of Fame?
Lowe was remembered for his toughness and being a big part of that 80s Oilers team - and he was one of only a small handful to be there through all the Cups (Messier, Anderson, Kurri, Huddy, Gregg, Fuhr). Smith was also tough, but was bigger and contributed more points. I remember more Steve Smith fights (notably against the LA Kings) than I do Kevin Lowe fights. Here's their side by side stats:
Season 1 - Lowe 64GP 2-19-21 Smith 55GP 4-20-24
Season 2 - KL 79GP 10-24-34 SS 62 7-15-22
Season 3 - KL 80GP 9-31-40 SS 79 12-43-55
Season 4 - KL 80GP 6-34-40 SS 35 3-19-22
Season 5 - KL 80GP 4-42-46 SS 75 7-34-41
Season 6 - KL 80GP 2-22-26 SS 77 13-41-54
Season 7 - KL 74GP 2-16-18 SS 76 9-21-30 (w/ Chicago)
Season 8 - KL 77GP 8-29-37 SS 78 10-47-57
Season 9 - KL 70GP 9-15-26 SS 57 5-22-27
Season 10 - KL 76GP 7-18-25 SS 48 1-12-13
Smith wasn't as durable as Lowe, and that probably hurts his case. He also broke in slower because the Oilers had more people ahead of him on defence than Lowe did, but if he was a couple years older and had been the first to arrive on the Oilers scene, it's pretty reasonable to think he would have got the same push as Lowe did. He'd have had more years on that great team, winning more Cups and probably even more points.
There's a pretty decent argument that Lowe's role on that Oilers team could have been played by any number of defenceman we've had over the years - unlike someone like Coffey. There's a pretty good argument that Huddy played the same role and was better - despite the push Lowe gets simply because he was the first in.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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