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Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway [message #767768 is a reply to message #767754 ]	Wed, 07 October 2020 08:31

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mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 07 October 2020 00:40

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 06 October 2020 23:55

mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 06 October 2020 20:18

Bob Stauffer's comparable for Dylan Holloway is Marty Reasoner (which you'd think would make me happy, but less so at #14).

Potentially less skilled though:

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@AdamsOnHockey
Reasoner has 1.26 pts/gm as a NCAA draft eligible, Holloway had 0.49. Bob is being very kind.

No offense Mighty R. but I think this guy will be a much different player than Marty, bigger, meaner, more skill, maybe even faster (hard to compare)

A good indication is the World Juniors this year when all the best U-20's should be playing.

No offense taken. The comparison is Bob Stauffer's not my own.

One thing to remember though - Reasoner was selected with the expectation of being a Top-6 center. And the more you compare them, there is a case to make:

- Reasoner was playing in the U-20 World Juniors in his draft eligible year, Holloway was not.
- Reasoner put up better PPG in the NCAA in his draft eligible year than Holloway.
- Both Reasoner and Holloway were the #14 picks.
- Scouting report on Reasoner: "“He is a very good player. His talent is undisputable.”
- Both Reasoner and Holloway are listed at 6'1"
- Reasoner was listed as 205 lbs vs. 203 for Holloway.
- Reasoner had fewer PIMS (31) than Holloway (49) in his draft eligible year, but had 56 PIMS the following year.

All this to say, Reasoner was drafted with the intention of being a Top-6 forward; it didn't work out that way, but he had a very solid career of 798 games, and was an effective bottom-six forward who could win face-offs and kill penalties. Holloway was drafted with the expectation of being a middle-six forward. The comparison may not be as inaccurate as we wish. But you never know how things will play out fully until they actually do.

If Holloway has the career of Reasoner, that's a good career. It's just less than you hope for at the #14 spot. I wish the Oilers aimed higher because that player isn't necessarily an uncommon player.

With all that said, I'm not sure who would be the alternative. Guhle? Zary?

Other comparables I've seen: Riley Nash (another Bob Stauffer comparison) and Dylan Larkin (Sportsnet).

Gotta think Holland is thinking Larkin a bit here. Kind of similar situations in their draft years. Larkin wasn't really able to get good ice time in his draft year because he's stuck behind a stacked Eichel line on the national team. He finally gets away from that in his next season. Holloway is behind Turcotte and Caufield in his draft year, and playing in a tougher league. Obviously next season will be the big tell on where this kid goes. Larkin had a great 1st season in college in his draft+1 year.

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Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: NetBOG on Tue, 06 October 2020 18:47
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: inverno76 on Tue, 06 October 2020 18:49
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: CrudeRemarks on Tue, 06 October 2020 18:51
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Adam on Tue, 06 October 2020 18:52
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Adam on Tue, 06 October 2020 18:51
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Magnum on Tue, 06 October 2020 18:55
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Adam on Tue, 06 October 2020 19:03
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: NetBOG on Tue, 06 October 2020 19:02
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 06 October 2020 20:50
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: WhoreableGuy on Tue, 06 October 2020 19:15
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Kr55 on Tue, 06 October 2020 20:04
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 06 October 2020 20:55
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: mightyreasoner on Tue, 06 October 2020 21:02
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: inverno76 on Tue, 06 October 2020 21:21
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: mightyreasoner on Tue, 06 October 2020 21:18
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: HamBlaster on Tue, 06 October 2020 22:52
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 06 October 2020 23:16
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: NetBOG on Tue, 06 October 2020 23:22
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 06 October 2020 23:55
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: mightyreasoner on Wed, 07 October 2020 00:40
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Kr55 on Wed, 07 October 2020 08:31
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Adam on Wed, 07 October 2020 10:16
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Kr55 on Wed, 07 October 2020 10:22
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 07 October 2020 17:19
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Kr55 on Tue, 06 October 2020 22:28
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: inverno76 on Wed, 07 October 2020 08:51
Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 07 October 2020 00:03
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Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#14) - Dylan Holloway	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 07 October 2020 07:13
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