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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13) [message #745951 is a reply to message #745950 ]	Wed, 30 October 2019 15:52

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 30 October 2019 15:47

Rocksteady wrote on Wed, 30 October 2019 11:30

I'm puzzled that some are up in arms about the Oilers. This depth issue is not new and was presenting itself way before they were 7and 1. I wanted to ignore that fact and was enjoying the ride but now we just want to throw Holland under the bus because of the lack of movement in the bottom 6?

Come on now people, we know the issues going on with this team.
1.Pete (solved but the ramifications of him being here will be long felt.) .
2. Management (All of them, Bob on down)
3. Cap Space
4. Depth players, farm system was chaotic
5. Players that are playing above their ceiling (like Chiasson)

None of this is new and reading some posts on this thread and I see people flabbergasted over what is being presented. It was all there. All of it.

Holland cannot do much with the salary cap hell he is in now and to yell at him for having this problem doesn't help; it won't help. It befalls management and their multi decade of ineptness.

Guys this will last 2+ years. Connor may ask for a trade then if there is no moves to improvement, it's entirely possible. I hope it will not come to pass but look at this team. The cards are all there, right there on the table. You may not like the answers they are giving you.

Cap space and blaming Chiarelli is such an easy and weak excuse when talking about the bottom six depth scoring on this team.

Sheahan, Jurco, Granlund, P. Russell, Haas, Chiasson, Archibald, and Nygard are all contracts signed under Ken Holland. That is 8 "depth" players taking up 8.65 million of cap space that Peter Chiarelli had nothing to do with. That is enough cap space to produce a bottom 6 that can score more than 1 goal in 13 games.

It has become pretty clear that Holland and company made a lot of bad bets. Nobody is calling to fire the guy, but he absolutely deserves to be questioned for this. The bottom end of this roster is his mess.

One thing to consider is the bottom 6 PDO is under 0.900 now I believe. There is a pretty dark curse hovering over our bottom 6 players if that somehow managed to continue without some kind of regression back towards the mean. It's a perfect combination of not good players and really bad luck, and it unfortunately perfectly fits into a narrative everyone has been dreading would come to pass.

It's been doing on so long too. It would ahve been nice to keep Caggiula and Strome, but those same guys were in the super crazy low PDO zone last year too, Strome especially before he got away from this team. I think Caggiula got the bump to the top lines to get a little bit of a stat boost before we made that awesome Manning trade.

There really could be something in the water :) Maybe bottom 6 guys get the water laced with radon.

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Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: OilFans on Tue, 29 October 2019 20:00
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: K.McC#24 on Tue, 29 October 2019 20:06
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: Ragnarok73 on Tue, 29 October 2019 20:07
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: overdue on Tue, 29 October 2019 20:43
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: Slim Jim Phantom Call on Tue, 29 October 2019 20:49
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: smyth260 on Tue, 29 October 2019 20:08
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: Ragnarok73 on Tue, 29 October 2019 20:10
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: smyth260 on Tue, 29 October 2019 21:43
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: Ragnarok73 on Tue, 29 October 2019 22:30
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: Mike on Wed, 30 October 2019 07:09
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: overdue on Wed, 30 October 2019 11:27
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: Steve on Wed, 30 October 2019 14:50
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: Ragnarok73 on Wed, 30 October 2019 14:56
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: Steve on Thu, 31 October 2019 10:31
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: overdue on Thu, 31 October 2019 12:30
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: CrudeRemarks on Thu, 31 October 2019 13:31
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 29 October 2019 20:25
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 30 October 2019 12:24
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 30 October 2019 12:27
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: Rocksteady on Wed, 30 October 2019 12:30
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 30 October 2019 12:39
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: K.McC#24 on Wed, 30 October 2019 13:20
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: smyth260 on Wed, 30 October 2019 15:47
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Detroit (Game #13)	By: Kr55 on Wed, 30 October 2019 15:52
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