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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 02 October 2019 15:14

Adam wrote on Wed, 02 October 2019 15:01

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 02 October 2019 12:34


Ryan Rishaug @TSNRyanRishaug
Tippett on McDavid-Draisaitl together: 'It set a 40-year record for the rest of the forwards not scoring'


I still find it hard to believe just how bad our depth performed last year. Scoring was up around the league and we still manage to get a record amount of futility. It must go beyond just the personnel. There must have been a firm belief among the depth players that the game plan assumed they were completely useless and everyone just needs to sit back and watch the McDavid Drai and nuge show.


This is a terrible take by Tippett. The rest of the forwards didn't not score because McDavid and Draisaitl were together, they didn't score because we employed an AHL-level group on lines 3 and 4 and traded away the couple guys who had showed any ability beyond that in Strome and Caggiula.

Nuge scored a career high number of points, playing mostly without 97 and 29 and still almost no one else got any goals.

Playing Nuge with Draisaitl instead of McDavid and Draisaitl isn't going to increase the number of goals from the bottom half the roster.

The fact of the matter is that the Oilers were 20+ goals worse than 29 other teams in the NHL for depth scoring so the performance has to be much MUCH better just to be mediocre.


That isn’t reason enough for it to be that bad though. Teams have iced worse bottom 6 groups before through years of crap budget teams, expansion teams, many through the dead puck era. There was something pretty painfully wrong with how this team was approaching games last year, right from the start, and Hitch IMO made it worse with his idea to have all forwards hanging around our own red line to start offense. Secondary scoring went from bad to zero under Hitch.

In any case, even if it is better it is doubtful it is enough. And the Goals against issue has many ways to be bad.


The team almost went out of their way to shoot themselves in the foot last year. They kept Yamamoto for ages (17 games plus some healthy scratches) when it was clear he couldn't score - even with a push on the top lines. They traded Strome despite the fact he was generating relatively high chances for Spooner who was already firmly in the doghouse (how many guys did they trade for who'd been healthy scratches last year)? They waived Aberg because he missed a practice months earlier - may not be a great guy, may not be a great teammate - but he scored more than most of those plugs we kept. We yo-yoed Puljujarvi back and forth, managing to completely lose the player. We did give him that one period with McDavid and Nuge though - where he did manage an assist, but then he had a giveaway where they scored so we locked him up after that.

I do think that both McLellan and even moreso Hitchcock had a philosophy of just don't give anything up when it came to bottom six players. They had no rope to go try to create offense - their whole roll was just kill some time until the big guys can come back on the ice.

I'm a little concerned with the Gagner/we-need-PKers thing that the same philosophy may be somewhat in play and the belief will be that we win games with the top guys and everyone else is just responsible for not losing them.



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