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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Daftmonk wrote on Tue, 11 December 2018 17:43 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 10 December 2018 12:52 |
Starts ~33:00 in
https://www.sportsnet.ca/podcasts/31-thoughts-podcast/dec-10 -2018-andrew-ference/
Summary stolen from a poster on hf
- Said players don't do well here because they're too afraid to make mistakes (and thus grow their game) because the media and fans will attack them and drive them out. Brought up Schultz and Petry as examples.
- He was not too happy with the Oilers due to the drastic difference in work ethic and commitment
- Other players who came from contenders/Stanley Cup teams were also frustrated by the lack of effort from the team
- Says Eakins was a good coach ("unfairly treated", "was he perfect? no") that demanded good work ethic but there was a group of players who refused to put any effort into practices. They were "too cool" to practice and were all talk when it came to winning. These players also had derogatory terms for teammates who tried to hard during practice.
- This group of players were all talk (in front of the media about wanting to win) and were more interested in living the partying lifestyle.
- Respect was given out based on "how well your toedrag was" and so it was hard getting much respect as a #4-5 defencemen.
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https://edmontonsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/fe rence-exaggerating-claims-of-hard-partying-edmonton-oilers-t eam-that-didnt-care-says-ryan-nugent-hopkins
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I love this line from Tychkowski:
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If the culture wasn’t good, it was incumbent on those people to change it. If they couldn’t even begin to do that, then it is further indication that they weren’t the right choices for management, coach and captain, which is why all of them were quickly changed.
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This is typical smokescreen for the Oilers management. Pretend that there was some big management change, when everyone who was in a key management role at that time is still here and still in a key management role. There's a decision to pin this on MacTavish clearly, but he's still in the room helping make the decisions that shape this club. So is his old boss and buddy Kevin Lowe, and his next in line Scott Howson.
They've all insulated themselves a little, but it's the same duds, and the same terrible corporate culture...
How long a slump would Klefbom have to have before he was getting booed here? If that happens, do we expect Chia or Lowe or MacT or anyone else to get in front of the cameras and tell the fans (and media) to pipe down?
Does the team still not realize the issues that come with setting up cliques in the dressing room or putting certain players ahead of the team? Remember the circus about McDavid and Gretzky being the first two on the ice at Rogers Place? If Draisaitl and Nurse were wild on the town, do you think that the management would do anything to try to settle them down at all?
I think it's all still relevant, because the management DID NOT get quickly changed. Not in any meaningful way.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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By: Adam on Tue, 11 December 2018 17:14 |
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