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Adam Messages: 7125
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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 18 December 2023 12:00 | You can talk about Carolina’s defense all you want. The only question I am interested in is would Raanta/Skinner win more games for the Oilers than Pickard/Skinner?
I would bet on yes. We know that we cannot overplay Skinner, yet just by having Pickard we are doing exactly that, because even the Oilers don’t think he is really an NHL goalie.
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While I don't believe that "sophomore jinx" is anything the Oilers should make any serious decisions around and while I don't think Skinner is likely to be anything above potentially a good back-up in the league, I wouldn't want us to pick up Raanta.
Yes - he's WAY below his career numbers, so it's possible this could be an anomaly. And yes, the other netminders in Carolina have struggled too, so it's also really possible that Brind'Amour's system is hanging his goalies out to dry.
However, there's a few things that worry me here:
1) Raanta is 34. When goalies decline, sometimes they go off a cliff. I believe Billy Ranford was the same age his last year, and he just wasn't the same. It's possible something similar has happened to Raanta and he just never recovers.
2) Our defensive system hasn't exactly insulated our goalies. If we're getting someone who's just lost his confidence who needs to have a few good games to right the ship? Well, it's not going to be easy here. We've already seen how goalies lacking confidence play behind this Oilers squad.
3) Raanta's only ever really been a back-up himself. A high end backup for most of his career, but he's never really grabbed the starter's mantle. He's only cracked the 40-game mark once and that was 8 years ago for an Arizona team that missed the playoffs. He's had really low playoff experience too. Just 24 games, of which 19 were the last two seasons in Carolina. I don't think it's likely that he's the goalie that can backstop a Cup team, and given that I don't think Skinner is either, I think you need to shoot higher.
4) Finally, and most importantly, the Oilers are completely over a barrel relative to the salary cap. While I believe there are some things that they can do that could potentially help with this, they have three big holes to try to patch this year with almost no room to do it - goalie, 2RD and 2nd line winger. We probably can't patch them all, if we're honest with ourselves.
Goalie is obviously the biggest hole. I don't really believe we can win a Cup without a half-decent 'keeper. If you burn some cap space on Raanta and he doesn't bounce back, then you still need too acquire another netminder later this season. That would mean zero chance of patching the other holes, and it may restrict who we could potentially target too.
So I'm fine with them skipping out on a claim here. A bandaid solution could be helpful in the short-term, but harmful in the long-run and I don't think that Raanta is any more than a bandaid for what ails us here.
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