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Goose wrote on Mon, 18 July 2022 12:31 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 July 2022 07:38 |
I said it in the other thread, I think JP is getting bad advice from his agent. Based on all the rumors, this is why it's been difficult to trade him. Teams are scared of the contract and what it could be if it goes to arb and the uncertainty of what JP might become. There are teams out there that are way more into numbers than the Oilers and if they are worried about what to pay him because they aren't sure what he might become, that should say a little. IF JP was smart, if he wants out and there is no way for him in his mind to come back, sign a 1-2 yr deal at 2 mill per and you'd have teams falling all over themselves to get him. Then at 26, you are a UFA and if you do well, you will get your homerun, long term deal.
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I don't understand this line of reasoning. Is the consensus that NHL arbitration deals overwhelmingly favour the players that have good analytics? I haven't heard that before if it's the case. If the process is somewhat fair, wouldn't the deal that Puljujarvi be offered be in line with his current production?
Maybe the issue isn't so much that arbitration would overpay Puljujarvi relative to his market value, but just more that the Oilers want to pay him less than what the market is suggesting he should be paid.
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I have never been in an NHL arb case nor will I ever have the opportunity to witness one so I have no idea if analytics are taken into account. My understanding from what information I have been told and full disclosure it's based on what I hear from all the out of market hockey guys, is they don't consider analytics much. They look at the guys stats and compare them to what other guys with similar stats are making. There are going to be guys on the high end, some on the low end and my guess is they come somewhere in the middle.
Again, this is based on what I have heard all the major non Oiler insiders who supposedly talk to people from other teams, supposedly the issue with JP is teams are worried he will get awarded more in an arb case than what they would like to pay him at the moment.
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