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Goose wrote on Thu, 14 November 2019 12:51

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 14 November 2019 10:02



I don't see how any team wins a trade where you are getting rid of a 24 yr old, excellent skating, tough, physical, big minute player, can play on both special teams, 30-40 pts dman.

You'd have to get one hell of a forward back to have a chance at winning that trade because as soon as you trade Nurse, you are looking for Nurse. If he was right handed, his name would never get mentioned.

I am curious to know who you think would be a forward worth trading Nurse for pretending that anyone is available? For me, it would have to be a young, signed for a value contract, proven, really good, top 6 forward. Going out and trading for a Nylander or an Ehlers, guys who on paper are good and can be good when they want too but are inconsistent doesn't do it for me. I don't see a Chia out there in a GM's spot who's stupid enough to trade a Hall type player for Nurse. That is the type of trade you would have to get to make a Nurse trade worth it in my opinion.


Ha, I would kill for the inconsistency of guys with multiple 20 goal/60 point seasons before their 25th birthday. That's basically the definition of top line scoring in the NHL. The 6th best forward on the Oilers is currently on pace for 20 points.

To put another way, the Oilers need more scoring, I don't think that's really in dispute. So if they don't trade a defenceman for one, how are they going to acquire someone? I think the Oilers best option is to trade a defenceman for scoring as they currently have more depth in their system at defence, with 3 or 4 guys that could end up being top-4 defencemen in the next few years. How many potential top 6 forwards do they currently have? Benson is the only guy that you can say is really trending that way right now. Yamamoto might have a chance, but I don't think he's done enough to this point to suggest he'll even be a consistent 50 point NHLer. Is there anyone other than Nurse that they could trade to get a guy like Nylander? Klefbom, sure, but keep in mind I suspect that Nurse is probably going to ask for and likely get $2+M more than Klefbom is currently making (and Klefbom is signed for 3 more years after this, the Oilers really can't afford to move that contract, there's too much value there).






I guess we have way different opinions on the Oilers. I have watched for years and years how the Oilers would draft guys, go through the growing pains of these guys developing and right when they were finally seeing the fruit of all the time and money they invested in a guy, dump them. Winning teams seem to have a bunch of guys on their team in their primes in key positions. The Oilers have the opportunity to have 2 guys, Klef and Nurse who are in their primes be the anchors of their top 2 pairings. Then you offset them with young guys on the right. I think it would be a mistake of epic proportions to trade Nurse. Think Petry. Petry was a decent dman that the Oilers spent years developing but had a few warts and they dumped him. As a Hab, he continued to get better and better. He's exactly what the Oilers have lacked on their defense from the day they traded him.

You ask how you get other forwards without trading Nurse. Look no further than what the Avs did with Barrie. They played him and squeezed all the juices out of him then dumped him to the Leafs for exactly what they needed in Kadri who's a second line center. Barrie has been brutal for the Leafs. If you want to go get Nylander, then you wait until this offseason and you trade for a Nylander or another forward because the Leafs only have 1 Dman signed and need to free up money because they overpaid for Tavarese, Matthews and Marner. So you give up a dirt cheap, NHL ready Jones and a decent pick and you get that forward.

So not only have you upgraded your forwards but you haven't stripped away one of the few Dmen you have who's just entering his prime years.



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