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Re: Oilers recall Jones [message #746842 is a reply to message #746837 ]	Thu, 14 November 2019 11:02

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Goose wrote on Thu, 14 November 2019 10:52

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 13 November 2019 18:10

We'll see about Jones, E. Bear is a miracle, but thinking Jones can walk in and play real NHL minutes would b another miracle, might be better than the way Persson's been playing though.

Sure, but at some point you have to figure out if he's capable of playing in the NHL or not. He's now played 2 full-ish seasons in the AHL, and 17 NHL games last year. He's almost a quarter of the way through his 3rd AHL season, tied for 6th in defenceman scoring and playing 25min a night in all situations.

@WheatNOil has been tracking AHL games this season, and Jones is the Condors #1 defenceman, and looks good by almost any metric. Here are some highlights, link to the whole thread at the bottom:

Quote:

Average TOI (all situations except for goalie-pulled)
Jones - 25:13
Lowe - 22:25
Bouchard - 22:20
Lagesson - 19:51 (2 games)
Day - 16:47 (1 game)
Kulevich - 16:40 (AHL contract)
Samorukov - 12:10
Corbett - 9:29 (2 games, AHL)
Desharnais - 6:42 (2 games, AHL)

Controlled Exits % (5x5 only, min 5 games)
Jones - 63.5%
Bouchard - 58.2%
Kulevich - 51.4%
Samorukov - 41.4%
Lowe - 40.7%

Controlled Exits / 60
Jones - 19.0
Bouchard - 16.6
Kulevich - 10.5
Lowe - 10.4
Samorukov - 8.8

Controlled Entries Against % (lower number means they defend their own blue line better and either force more dump-ins or break up entries entirely)

Kulevich - 30%
Bouchard - 38.7%
Jones - 41.5%
Lowe - 43.3%
Samorukov - 52%

Anyways, Jones has been very good in the games I tracked and Woodcroft leans on him in all situations. I’m not sure there’s much left for him to prove at the AHL level. He’s a #1D in the AHL at the age of 22 in his last year of his ELC.

https://twitter.com/WheatNOil/status/1194792512533098496

I still maintain that one of the few trades that I think the Oilers can win is moving Nurse for a forward, and figuring out what Jones is capable of makes that decision a lot easier.

I don't see how any team wins a trade where you are getting rid of a 24 yr old, excellent skating, tough, physical, big minute player, can play on both special teams, 30-40 pts dman.

You'd have to get one hell of a forward back to have a chance at winning that trade because as soon as you trade Nurse, you are looking for Nurse. If he was right handed, his name would never get mentioned.

I am curious to know who you think would be a forward worth trading Nurse for pretending that anyone is available? For me, it would have to be a young, signed for a value contract, proven, really good, top 6 forward. Going out and trading for a Nylander or an Ehlers, guys who on paper are good and can be good when they want too but are inconsistent doesn't do it for me. I don't see a Chia out there in a GM's spot who's stupid enough to trade a Hall type player for Nurse. That is the type of trade you would have to get to make a Nurse trade worth it in my opinion.

[Updated on: Thu, 14 November 2019 11:09]

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Oilers recall Jones	By: Goose on Wed, 13 November 2019 16:30
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 13 November 2019 16:34
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: Kr55 on Wed, 13 November 2019 16:36
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: overdue on Wed, 13 November 2019 18:35
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: Skookum Jim on Wed, 13 November 2019 19:10
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: GabbyDugan on Wed, 13 November 2019 20:11
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Thu, 14 November 2019 10:10
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 14 November 2019 10:34
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: Goose on Thu, 14 November 2019 10:52
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: Kr55 on Thu, 14 November 2019 11:00
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 14 November 2019 11:02
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: Goose on Thu, 14 November 2019 12:51
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 14 November 2019 13:16
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: Goose on Thu, 14 November 2019 14:24
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 14 November 2019 14:38
Re: Oilers recall Jones	By: Goose on Thu, 14 November 2019 15:08
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