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Adam wrote on Tue, 02 July 2019 15:46

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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 02 July 2019 12:38


So what is the answer then? Keep the same guys who everyone identified as not being good enough so fans can sit back and complain about the roster?

If people would look at things objectively for a min. Sekera was a going to be 34 yr old, coming off 2 major leg injuries that some players never fully come back from, making 5.5 mill who's not a very good skater. He's played 60 games in 2 years. Last season in 24 games in very sheltered mins playing against 3th and 4th liners, he didn't get crushed, he did alright. Considering there was concerns he wouldn't play in the NHL again, that's great. If the Oilers went into this season saying they were counting on Sekera being a top 4 dman, everyone of you guys would lose your minds saying how stupid they were and then paste some chart about how sheltered he was to back up your point about how dumb the Oilers are.

So the Oilers make the call and move on deciding that Sekera is nothing more than a ridiculously expensive 5-6 dman with mobility issues. The market shares that opinion because all he could get a 1 yr deal at 1.5 mill which is what vet #6 dmen get. But the same people who would have crucified the Oilers if they bet on Sekera are crucifying them for not.


I mean, the Oilers are dumb, I don't think that's even a question at this point.

I fully expect that the Oilers aren't going to be good this year, so I don't think it really matters whether they play Sekera or Jones. I can't speak for anyone else, but I would have had no issue with them keeping Sekera.

I've said it before, but I think the moves they should have made to the defence would have been to move Russell (because he's not that good and too expensive), and trade Nurse (because I think he's one of the few guys on this team whose perceived value is greater than his actual value - meaning I think the Oilers could win a Nurse trade).

My issue is the logic in creating dead cap space in year's 3 and 4 of this deal in order to "make room" for a guy that isn't going to move the needle on the Oiler's success this year, and potentially gets thrown in over his head with limited cover (because that's worked out really well every other time this team has done it).

One thing I agree with is I don't expect the Oilers to be good this year. But because of that, I would like to see the ice time that a 5.5 mill dman would command go to a Jones. I don't need to see Sekera who's got mobility issues who's not capable of being more than a #6, lumber around the ice getting burnt wide. His only saving grace being he can make a pass once in a while. If someone thinks otherwise, they are fooling themselves. So next season when the Oilers are ready to be good, a guy like Jones has hopefully knocked off all the big peaks and valleys and is a steady, contributing dman.


As Goose points out though, it's not simply this year that's impacted. If the decision was simply - we're going to suck this year so we may as well give more playing time to a rookie as opposed to an aging veteran (who actually looked decent at the end of the year when he played and looked better yet in the World's when he was further away from the rust) - well, then maybe that's not so bad if you can flush Sekera and play Jones in his spot - saving the dollars.

But buying out Sekera impacts negatively on 2021-22 and 2022-23 seasons. Let's say this season DOES help Jones develop. His entry level deal expires with him as a full-time NHL defenceman, so he gets a bigger payday in contract #2, which is probably a bridge for a season or two. When that expires the Oilers are STILL paying for Sekera with cap space that could have meant the difference between re-signing the player or not.

It also impacts this year pretty significantly, because the Oilers have well over $5MM of dead cap space (including burying Manning). Even next year that have almost $4MM dead cap already because of the similarly stupid Benoit Pouliot buyout and this buyout of Sekera. Good teams find better ways of handling their problems because as we've seen this summer, cap space is worth its weight in gold (actually more than it's weight, since it's technically weightless, but still, you know what I mean).

When Holland took the job he was left with:
- A severe lack of forward depth. Most importantly, he's missing at least 1 top 6 winger and a 3rd line center. IMO, the Oilers need to address that to be better.
- His goalie is a mystery. I don't think Koskinen is a pile of crap but I also don't know if he is a legit good starter. So they needed a good back up capable of playing 30 games. You can't get those guys for under 1 mill.

He also inherited thanks to Chia:
- Lucic at 6 mill. According to his agent, Lucic has it in his mind he's coming back and is determined to be better. Great. What does better mean? He had 6 goals last year. Even if he had 12 which would be awesome, he's still making at least twice what he should.
- Koskinen at 4.5 mill. Supposedly he had the Oilers goalie coach over to Finland to work with him. So hopefully he can improve. Stauffer let it be known that part of Koskinen's job last season was to babysit JP. The fact that he had to babysit a grown ass man in JP is pathetic but based on how JP has not progressed and his recent actions, it's clear to me it had to happen. A guy trying to figure out the NHL shouldn't have to worry about if an adult is OK but such is life. JP will be gone so that's one less thing to worry about. But regardless, he's probably making at least 1 mill too much.
- Another year of Manning. A guy that is not an NHLer.
- He traded an OK 3rd line center for a non NHLer in Spooner who got flipped for Gagner who is an NHLer but making probably 1.5+ mill too much.
- A dead end contract in Sekera. Sekera WAS a good dman but that was 2 years ago and 2 major injuries ago. He's a 3rd pairing dman now who might not be in the NHL next year who was making 5.5 mill. But he can pass the puck so in here, that justifies keeping him.
- Russell is a decent, 4-5 dman who's making probably 0.5 - 1 mill too much.

- Not to mention 1.6m mill in buyouts.

So all of that is against him.

Just to address a good back up, a 3rd line center and a top 6 winger, is more money than he was left with. Not to mention, he needed to add some depth forwards. So he needed cap space.

So we will disagree on this. I hate dead cap space so buying out Sekera was not my first choice. But as the market showed, he was WORTHLESS on the trade market. No one was giving you anything for him. They tried. Apparently according to reports, they were willing to eat 50% and still no one would bite. Why. because he's not worth 2.75 mill.



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