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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 09 May 2019 09:01 |
Adam wrote on Thu, 09 May 2019 08:53 |
smyth260 wrote on Thu, 09 May 2019 08:36 | Ference is in my opinion a role model person. The dude goes above and beyond for his community. Even he thought management wasn't supportive of their players, specifically mentioning Schultz. Does he meet your definition of a good guy?
Quote: | I think that the (lack of) quickness to defend players within the organization. I remember Jeff Petry or Schultz getting raked over the coals and nobody coming to defend them and just trading them after they’ve beaten them down for months, then trading them. It’s like, ‘God.’ It’s not just for those guys but it’s for other guys on the team, you’re looking at it and saying, ‘They don’t have his back. Are they going to have mine when it’s my turn to be the whipping boy?’”
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Here's a short list of people we KNOW weren't happy with their Oilers experience in the Kevin Lowe era, especially the end of it:
Comrie
Marchant
Chimera
Thoresen
Pronger
Moreau
Souray
Brule
Petry
Gilbert
Belanger
N. Schultz
Hemsky
Whitney
J. Schultz
Smid
Ference
Bryzgalov
Pakarinen
Auvitu
Eberle
Those are just some of the people who've actually said something - something that's incredibly rare in hockey circles. Most NHLers don't make snide remarks or give comments about the hockey team they came from, beyond saying they were sorry to leave. With the Oilers, we've had close to 20 guys say something negative about the team after they've left it.
Hell, even coaches have had negative things to say - Quinn said the team changed coaches without even really telling him and that they weren't listening to him about who to keep out of camp. Renney said that the team told him to play young guys more, even as he was worried about their health, because they wanted to "sell hope".
We just don't have anyone like Doug Weight anymore, who used to talk on and on about how he and his family loved it here. There's no one coming out and disputing most of these things said by players, not even anonymously. There were a couple guys who disagreed with Ference's take on the players and the party atmosphere, but no one suggested he was wrong about the management's lack of support.
This is a terrible team to play for. The team never wins, and the management ALWAYS does stupid things, all while still living in the past and thinking they're owed some great deal of respect from players too young to have even seen them play.
The culture here is toxic. That's on the management of this team. That's what leads to guys like Souray regretting his decision to come to his hometown team.
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Comrie - Jerk, divorced
Marchant - White male
Chimera - Saw him yell at MacT with an angry face, jerk
Thoresen - Jerk, scored the goal that gave Chicago the lottery pick for Kane
Pronger - Jerk, cheater
Moreau - Refused to pay a bill at a restaurant, jerk
Souray - bad reputation
Brule - personal issues, holds grudge, jerk
Petry - Scored on his own net, idiot
Gilbert - Long hair, white male
Belanger - Known jerk
N. Schultz - White male
Hemsky - Last guy on, first guy off in practice
Whitney - Jerk, thick accent
J. Schultz - Slacker in his own end for us
Smid - Called out teammates, bad attitude
Ference - Called out teammates, too many tattoos
Bryzgalov - crazy person, Russian
Pakarinen - who?
Auvitu - who?
Eberle - Only tries hard in last few weeks of contract years, bum :)
Yeah sorry Adam, none of the above are qualified
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Add Perron to the list, and I'd have to go back but Hall has certainly made comments about how things happen in NJ that never happened here.
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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