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Re: Ken Holland accepts Oilers GM and POHO offer [message #737379 is a reply to message #737344 ]	Wed, 08 May 2019 20:10

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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 08 May 2019 08:21

Adam wrote on Tue, 07 May 2019 17:33

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 07 May 2019 15:44

smyth260 wrote on Tue, 07 May 2019 15:18

That's what I took away as well. I think that makes complete sense. Go and hire your long term guy.

I as actually surprised that he hadn't even been officially announced by the team and he was calling Hitch up last night to tell him he's not coming back and talked to all the assistants. Past guys, like Chia would have said they will have to take some time to talk to everyone. He's not wasting any time. In my opinion, there isn't anything to talk about when it came to Hitch. He's going to be 68 yrs old. As a temporary guy, you can deal with him for 3/4 of the season but I didn't see him as the long term coach. They need a different kind of coach and the team wasn't much better under him than it was with McLellan. The only thing having Hitch replace McLennan did was confirm that it wasn't coaching, the line up wasn't good enough. I would expect to see a coach in place by the end of May.

I hope that Holland employs the same not wasting any time approach with the Hockey Ops side. The Oilers have been lousy for a long time. I am sure every guy has some pros to him but at the end of the day with guys like Sutter, Howson, Mac T, Scott, who ever the pro scouts are, the results aren't there. Chia has to wear lots of the blame but they were involved as well. So in my opinion, there really is no need to spend a lot of time finding out the pros and cons of these guys. The record speaks for itself, a change is needed. I would hope there would be some movement in the hockey ops department in the coming weeks.

I would probably invest some into K. Gretzky to find out about him. I think he has done a decent job just running things since Chia was fired. He has to wear some blame for the pro side just because he's part of that team but I would find out how much. I think he is decent at amateur scouting side which lately as been the only part of the Oilers organization that seems to be doing decent.

Once again, this is incorrect.

Holland is not at all unique in making a decision on his coach right away. Chiarelli basically said the same thing about Todd Nelson. He said he hoped they could keep Nelson in the organization, but he didn't exactly dither about that.

MacTavish dithered, but then everything about his hiring was a complete and total trainwreck.

Tambellini just confirmed that MacTavish would stay on as head coach.

It's always one of the first questions any GM gets asked, so anyone who's done even a modicum of preparation for the job has an answer to that question ready and has done at least the minimum amount of preparation ahead of the press conference.

Also - who wants to bet that MacTavish is still here when the smoke clears this summer? I'm pretty much guaranteeing he doesn't get walked out.

Whatever you say. You are all knowing apparently.

Why so passive aggressive? Adam, in fact, is knowledgeable as he pays attention to trends and uses this along with other data to support his comments. For someone who was quite upset earlier at people for being cruel towards Katz’ for his appearance you sure seem to insult those who don’t align with your thinking or you feel are “flexing their brain” on a subject you’re discussing.

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Ken Holland accepts Oilers GM and POHO offer	By: smyth260 on Sun, 05 May 2019 10:20
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