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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 08 May 2019 09:54 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 08 May 2019 09:31 |
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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 07 May 2019 12:15 | Interesting how Holland commented about Hitch and how if they brought him back, it would be another year before they had a even a chance at making the playoffs. Apparently, he's not a big Hitch fan.
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I guess I should have worded it differently. I wasn't saying Holland didn't have a ton of respect for Hitch, I am sure he does. What I was saying is Holland was very quick to decide that Hitch wasn't his idea of the type of coach he wants for the Oilers.
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His reasoning was pretty sound. Hitch would be a 1-2 year guy. He wants someone that he can expect to be around for the long term. I imagine that was pretty easy to explain to Hitch as well. This is not at all a team that needs a short term push over the hill by a short shelf-life coach like Hitch. This team still badly needs a ground up approach from someone that feels he will be around for 4+ years at least.
All of Holland's talk about Yzerman sacrificing points for other things, and how he wants the coach to also provide veteran leadership like he will as GM suggests to me that he will try to get an experienced HC though. Not sure Nelson will be in the picture. Makes me think of a guy like Tippett.
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I am OK if the next coach gets the Oilers players to stop cheating for offense and play a more sound game. I will give Hitch a lot of credit. He supposedly worked real hard with Leon to get him to play a more complete game and Leon scored 50 goals and over 100 pts while being a better all around player in my opinion. So I don't think not being a train wreck in your own zone means you can't score points.
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I honestly didn't see much difference at all in players commitment under Hitch. He did make forwards come a bit lower in their end to try to help our weak D, but that was basically a must when we were down Klef. Barely any D left that can make a pass. When guys further down the lineup started doing the same, their production hit new lows, because they could not longer find a way to make that journey from their own end to the offensive zone having to start to low. Defensive structure overall, pretty disappointing under Hitch. Still lots of the same mistakes being made all over the place. The line shuffling was stupid, and it's funny to find out that "Hitch Daily" is a term his former players use because he likes to try to sell a new line combo he just came up with will save the day (Identity Line!!!).
In any case, I think in general, a coach that is able to actually show he can get the team to do what he's selling, and it's actually smart and useful, and you can see it on the ice, win or lose. That is something we badly need. Tippett is actually that kind of guy IMO. His players have always bought in. He had some great seasons in Dallas, some without any real superstar. Bad times with the Coyotes for sure, but his players always played the game plan, they just lose more than they won because of a complete lack of talent up front.
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I didn't think the Oilers as a team improved much under Hitch, I just said I thought Leon in particular was better under Hitch. He in my opinion really took off after McLellan was fired. Maybe that would have happened regardless, I don't know. In the end, the Oilers probably could have saved themselves some money and just kept McLellan for the rest of the year. What bringing in Hitch did do for the team in my opinion is reinforce that the roster make up wasn't good enough.
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