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Re: Ken Holland accepts Oilers GM offer [message #737080 is a reply to message #737077 ]	Mon, 06 May 2019 00:03

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mightyreasoner wrote on Sun, 05 May 2019 22:20

smyth260 wrote on Sun, 05 May 2019 21:49

My stance is pretty simple. If he cleans house, I'll pay attention. Anything less, and it's more of the same.

I mean, he can't fire Nicholson or Lowe, and they are more of a problem than anyone else probably. Not that having MacTavish, Howson, Green, Sutter, Kretzky, Gretzky, Coffey, etc. around is great, but the two biggest problems still remain above him.

Not that this was ever a solution regardless of who they hired, but this is why I remain a skeptic. Katz didn't have the fortitude to cut out the biggest problems.

It's definitely wishful thinking. I guess I'd be ok with Nicholson sticking around until he decides to go back to Hockey Canada. Friedman has mentioned that a few times on his podcast.

Everyone else can be removed, I think. Holland is unlike all the rookie GM's they interviewed. He has a lot of success, experience, and respect. If he decided that Lowe can no longer be at the draft, give tours to free agents, ask for his son to be handed contracts...I think they would have to listen. They are paying him 5 million for his expertise. Say thanks Kevin, but you and all your glory days friends can simply be team ambassadors or whatever. I just don't really think for a second that Holland will do that. And it really shouldn't be his call to make. The house should be clean before a new GM comes to work, but this is all I can really hope for.

I just can't really root for their success anymore if they keep doing the same thing over and over again. They are wasting an exceptional player's career every year they decide that these people's jobs are more important than winning. So clean house or bust.

Clean house or bust

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Ken Holland accepts Oilers GM and POHO offer	By: smyth260 on Sun, 05 May 2019 10:20
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