Ragnarok73 wrote on Sat, 29 December 2018 15:55

shoop wrote on Sat, 29 December 2018 14:43 PlusOne wrote on Sat, 29 December 2018 17:30 Sorry for boiling down your arguments to just the Reinhart trade, it wasnt an intention of misleading or lack of truthfulness, I simply forgot some of your other posts. TBH I tend to skim a lot of posts on here if they have little real substance. As far as the degree of trolling, here is what it comes down to for me; - you have a VERY strong opinion on PC and his safety if they make the playoffs yet for the most part dont give any defense of him, his moves or what he has built. - You are very quick to call other arguments or suggestions, like Shero, a bad idea yet have no ideas of your own - going against the majority is a fun pasttime for some people. While it is tough to know someones intentions on a message board your posts scream for attention by going against a commonly held belief (Chia sucks) yet offering no actual facts, unique opinions or insights as to why the masses are wrong. The fact that just making the playoffs is seen as as measure of success for him to me is absurd. I think it primarily boils down to the Hall trade. As stated earlier, I think the Hall trade was necessary and Ference's little whine proved that. Whoever claimed we didn't know for sure that it was Hall that Ference was referring to is a joke. Of course it was Hall, and he had to go for that reason. Can anyone name a defenceman who has played better for the Oilers since Chris Pronger other than Larsson? Maybe Sekera's second year, but Larsson has been solid. People who hate Chiarelli are just butt hurt about that Hall trade still IMO. Defence of Chia moves, trades, signings. Talbot for a late 2nd, 3rd and a 6th round draft pick - solid move. Signing Talbot to a reasonable extension in terms of aav and term was even better. Maroon for Martin Gernat and a fourth rounder? Another solid move. Kris Russell signing? Lots of people criticized it but he definitely earned his money last year. Was earning it this year until the injury. Zack Kassian for Ben effin' Scrivens ... worked out pretty well. Eberle for Strome than Spooner. Cap move that has been ok. Strome was a disappointment, but Eberle is having a down year this year. Would anyone advocate for bringing Eberle back? Koskinen signing. Looked bad, then incredible, now we don't know. As earlier stated, Chiarelli has replenished the farm system. I don't know if this counts as facts, unique opinions or insights in your book but if they don't then nothing will satisfy you. This team has made the playoffs once in the past 12 years. Chia is the one GM who got them there. But, but but McDavid so the bar should be much higher is an argument that has been used repeatedly. Not an actual fact, unique opinion or insight in that argument. Now that half the legue doesn't make the playoffs, maing the playoffs is a solid accomplishment. I like Chiarelli because he brought a level of professionalism we haven't seen since Sather. Tambo was a waffler who couldn't make the any tough decisions. KLowe's arrogance was so offputting. MacT hired Eakins. The Oilers were very close to making the Conference finals just two seasons ago. But, but but Chia didn't do enough that off-season. Easy to say in hindsight. I think the playoffs are a reasonable level of progress. Could you provide any actual facts, unique opinions or insights as to why holding that view is absurd? What's with "the masses" line? Some misguided attempt at me because I have my own opinion? For some reason, you seem to have left out the Loo signing which will handcuff the team's cap for years to come. That move alone is worth Chia's job. Also, you can bring up all the piddly-ass moves Chia has made that haven't completely blown up in his face that you want. The simple fact remains that the team isn't really any closer to contending for the Cup than they were before the Oil won the McLottery. A GM's job is to build the team into a contender for said Cup. If you are going to continue to defend Chia despite his clear and utter failure to do this, you are nothing but a shill troll paid by the organization to spew propaganda.

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