shoop wrote on Thu, 27 December 2018 16:08

Babaganoosh2.0 wrote on Thu, 27 December 2018 19:37 Wondering how long this troll is going to get away with this. Anyone that can defend where this team is right now. 3+ years into McDavid isn't a Oilers fan. This is a train wreck. You should change your name to Chia Pet.. Anyone that doesn't share your view is a troll. What's the purpose of a message board to discuss the state of the team if only one opinion is allowed? Goose wrote on Thu, 27 December 2018 18:27 Not one person here believes that Chiarelli is solely to blame for this mess. I don't even think he's primarily responsible, that distinction goes to Katz. But I still think he should be fired. Nobody reasonable should think it's 100% on Chia. That's why I asked the question about the worst of the OBC vs. Chia. If I had to choose I'd clean house and give Chia another couple years to see what he can do. Simply because that's the path that doesn't mandate another guaranteed year or two out of the playoffs.

I think the concern is expectations and lack of progress.
- I expected this team to be a perennial contender within two years of winning McDavid. Assuming of course he lived up to the hype, which he has.
- I have seen very little from Chia defenders about what he has done well, except saying what others see as mistakes isnt THAT bad
- I dont know enough of the available GM pool to know who a good replacement would be

My opinion is that being in a Wild Card spot at Christmas is awesome, an accomplishment that has been rare around here. Much like I miss Russell this is more of an indictment of mismanagement than a celebration of success (or quality in the case of Russell)

I think someone here did the math once and if Chia had done absolutely nothing but resign the players he already had the team would be in roughly the same cap position but on paper** would have a better roster.

If one even partially agrees with the above statement than I dont know how that same person can entertain the idea of more time given to PC. His biggest mark on the team is a cap crunch and no depth.

**I say on paper as the opinion on the partying, effort and attitudes of the departed players will definitely have an effect on opinions of the results of said "on paper" team

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