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Adam Messages: 6804
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mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 30 January 2019 17:54 |
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I would look at Benning. Lowtide keeps beating the Benning drum like he is this awesome dman. Where? What am I missing here? I heard Lowtide and McCurdy talking about Benning and his "Numbers" today. How his numbers are good. What numbers? When he started, lots got all excited and thought this guy had an outside chance of being an all around top 4 guy. Sure, he made some mistakes, but he was young. Well apparently, he's peaked. The same mistakes he made his first year, he still makes. His skating is mediocre at best, even a bit slow. His passing isn't very good, he doesn't move the puck that well, defensively he's very inconsistent and offensively, he's got 10 pts in 42 games so he might get you high teens in points. The one plus is he's right handed. Other than that, he is a 3rd pairing guy who can do lots of things at times at a passable level but nothing very good. According to McCurdy apparently Benning doesn't get absolutely crushed and his "numbers " somehow come out even. Every time I watch him, he's doing some 10 bell dumb play but sure.
But if the criterial for your 3rd pairing is just to survive, you can find guys like Gravel making under 1 mill to do that. I would much rather give his spot to a guy who has a dimension. Like a right shooting PP specialist. So maybe you have to shelter his 5 on 5 mins but he is dynamite on your PP.
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Lowetide and others have a point...
If you look at old school +/-, Matt Benning has been a positive player in every year he's played, including +4 this year. He's got 10 points, behind only Nurse, Larsson and Klefbom (all who play much more than him).
I think there's evidence he's not a bad third pairing defenceman, and that where he has trouble is when he's asked to play far up the lineup. I don't think it's clear that Manning is a third pairing d-man, and Gravel doesn't have the offence to his game. Add to that that Benning is a right shot...
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I don't hate Benning, but I do think he makes a little much for a third pairing guy.
I do believe they signed him and didn't replace Sekera adequately because they believed Benning would take that Top-4 spot; that failed miserably, to the point Caleb Jones played in that role instead.
Benning is a useful player and he's young enough and good enough that the Oilers can find somewhere to move him. But if you are looking to move cap, I think this is a good place. I think either Bear or Jones is likely to being what Benning does at a cheaper rate.
FWIW, RDOilers fan has a ship list similar to mine: Kassian, Russell, Rieder, Talbot, Spooner, Petrovic, Manning, Benning, Brodziak, Lucic, Gravel, Chiasson. Varying degrees to which I want to move them, and not all are tradable (Lucic, Manning), and some more likely to be moved at the draft than the deadline, but all are expendable and I'm doing what I can to get them off the books or get an asset before the contract expires.
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Ask yourself though, is Jones (or Bear) actually ahead of Benning though? Both of them made many of the same errors that Benning does, but we tend to be forgiving of those things in a rookie season. Now, they may very well mature past those things and surpass Benning, but I don’t think it’s actually happened yet. I do agree that Benning, like almost anyone else in the big leagues who got signed by PC, is overpaid, but there’s a lot worse contracts on the Oilers, and I’m not confiemdent that the team doesn’t give the same money or more to Jones or Bear after next season - whether they’re full value for it or not.
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