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Re: Oilers Qualify 3; Nurse, Slepychev, Strome [message #716986 is a reply to message #716985 ]	Fri, 13 July 2018 11:01

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 13 July 2018 10:55

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 12 July 2018 18:43

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oiler s/nhl-edmonton-oilers-darnell-nurse-not-interested-in-long-t erm-contract/wcm/0a5d1ede-2a4c-4f54-a208-2fa6b83311e6?video_ autoplay=true

Nurse's agent says the 5M of space we have left is clearly not enough for a long term deal for Nurse, hehe.

Also makes this comment:

"They bought out Eric Gryba to add another player (50-man protected list) which cut into their cap"

Matheson adds in that 50-man protected list comment to try to excuse Chia, but we all know that doesn't matter, we weren't near 50, and we don't need to be near 50. Entertaining to see Nurse's agent plainly said that was a cap hurting move, needless gryba buyout.

Regardless of if the Oilers had cap space or not, I wouldn't sign Nurse long term right now. I would want to know what he is before I commit long term. If he was willing to take a long term deal at Klefbom money, then I would take that in a heartbeat but no way he does. What I do know is I am pretty sure Nurse is a really good skating, defensive, top 4 dman who is tough, physical, nasty, can move the puck a bit, rush the puck a bit but doesn't have the offensive abilities to warrant anything higher than a number that starts with a 4. I am sure the Nurse camp thinks he is going to be worth something in the 5's or higher but they don't have the numbers right now to back that up. So they are gambling on him to improve offensively.

Yeah, I really have a hard time seeing any downside to a 2 year bridge with Nurse. That should come in around 3.3M or so. That helps weather the storm in the next couple years dealing with the cap hell. I really can't see him becoming a mainstay on the PP in the next 2 years, so that should limit him to max 25-35 points a season, so he's not going to get some crazy numbers to negotiate with next summer or the one after. Long term now probably costs 5M at least.

If he has a couple more ~30 point seasons, what would really be the max he could ask long term? Maybe 6? Assuming some salary inflation. If he struggles for a year within the next 2, he's probably still down around 5 long term. Not really seeing any crazy risk here with a bridge.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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