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Re: Oilers sign Koskinen [message #714307 is a reply to message #714300 ]	Thu, 03 May 2018 15:01

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PlusOne wrote on Thu, 03 May 2018 13:53

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 03 May 2018 13:13

Part of the problem and this isn't me trying to justify the signing is I don't see anyone of the NHL free agents both UFA and RFA that I am confident in or they could get.

I don't want Lehtonen, Halak, Ward, Lack, Johnson, Pavelec, all UFA's. Lehner is an RFA, I am not a fan of his and I thin he gets a least 2.5 mill, he was making 4 mill last year. Mrazek is an RFa and was crappy. Bernier was making 2.75 mill. He was decent so I think he gets at least what he made last year or more. Helleuyck obviously is Winnipegs guy. Grubeauer was making 1.5 ill, have an excellent year and I see a team like Buffalo maybe trying to get him. Regardless he's making more than 2.5 mill. Hutton for the Blues was outstanding and will get WAY more than 2.5 mill. Hammond no thanks. Hutchinson hasn't been in the league in a few years. Khudobin was ok for Boston but do they let him go?

I just listed the first 15 goalies listed needing a contract and the only 2 I would like is Grubauer and Hutton and they might be in line for some starters jobs but at the very least probably get more than 2.5 mill.

I know you think I just come after you but I am totally asking a serious question.
Why are you so against the 15 guys who need contracts yet willing to give this one a chance? Many of them have better NHL numbers than Koskinen has in the KHL.

Forget the ones that will get more than 2mill

As said below;

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 03 May 2018 13:22

I'd be really interested to look back in a while and see what all these guys end up signing for.

I think it is safe to say there will be a LOT of tenders who sign at 1.25 mill or less (IE half of this signing). There are only 46 goalies in the entire league that make that or more.
You are willing to say no to all of them why? Again, serious question. I am truly curious why you will take a wait and see attitude with this.

I don't think most of the guys I listed are good enough NHL goalies. Everyone agrees Talbot and the .908 he ended up with wasn't good enough. So why would I want to bring in another guy with similar or worse numbers?
Lehtonen in a reduced role had a .912 this past year. The previous years he was .902, .906, .903. He will be 35 in November. I am not confident that a 35 yr old goalie will put up .910 or better numbers, I think he will put up numbers similar to what he did the previous years which isn't good enough.

Halak put up .908 this past season. When I look at his numbers, his numbers are decent. However, I personally have never been a fan of him. He lost his job to Griess who's not that good either, spent half of last season in the minors last year so there had to be a reason. Goaltending was the main reason the Isles didn't make the playoffs. By today's standards he's really small. Why would I want to bring in a goalie who's small by today's standards and not that great?

Ward was .906 this season. He was .905, .909, .910, .898, .908. Other than he grew up in Sherwood Park, I see nothing appealing about him.

Lack this season when he was with Calgary was .813, spent time in the minors, went to New Jersey where he was .903. Then previously he was ,.902, .901. Those are brutal numbers.

Johnson was .891 in Buffalo and ,.910 the previous year. Not good enough.

Pavelec was .910 this past season. Then he was .888 and spent most of the year in the minors as a Jet. Then .904. Jumped to .920, then was .901, .905, .906. Not good enough.

There is just a few of them. Mzazek has been bad for several years now. Maybe I think about Lehner but I think he gets more money than what they paid Koskinen. But maybe he would have been a guy to role the dice on IF you could even get him.

I am going to get out of this debate because it is looking like I am saying this is a good signing because like I said multiple times, I don't. I am not trashing the signing like some because I have never seen the guy play. I think he played in a World Championship game 2 years ago when McDavid was there and was really good in the championship game but that is the extent of me seeing him in action. 1 game. I would like to see him play a bit before I pass my final judgement on him. But it's a massive gamble which I am not a fan of. Chia took some gambles this past season and none of them worked. I heard him interviewed yesterday on Stauffer's show and he said he knows he needs to prove he can play in the NHL. I liked hearing that because I hope it means he's not coming in all cocky thinking his KHL numbers mean anything because they don't and I hope it means we will see a very motivated guy with a chip on his shoulder. But until he plays, we won't know. I just hope like hell it works because 2.5 mill is a hell of a lot of money to waste on a flop.

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