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This ain't a playoff team.

This should be the end of Mike Smith as an Edmonton Oiler. Waive him to Bako and either force retirement or that's where he stays. He's acting hurt and was in this game too long. There's no longer time to wait for Mike Smith to crawl back up to mediocre play.

Pretty pathetic effort in front of Smith too. The thing is, not one player on this team demonstrably hates to lose when eggs like this are laid with regularity. Have some frigging pride.

How bad does Calgary crush this outfit? 7-2 I'm guessing.



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K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 02:56

This ain't a playoff team.

This should be the end of Mike Smith as an Edmonton Oiler. Waive him to Bako and either force retirement or that's where he stays. He's acting hurt and was in this game too long. There's no longer time to wait for Mike Smith to crawl back up to mediocre play.

Pretty pathetic effort in front of Smith too. The thing is, not one player on this team demonstrably hates to lose when eggs like this are laid with regularity. Have some frigging pride.

How bad does Calgary crush this outfit? 7-2 I'm guessing.


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K.McC#24 wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 19:56

This ain't a playoff team.

This should be the end of Mike Smith as an Edmonton Oiler. Waive him to Bako and either force retirement or that's where he stays. He's acting hurt and was in this game too long. There's no longer time to wait for Mike Smith to crawl back up to mediocre play.

Pretty pathetic effort in front of Smith too. The thing is, not one player on this team demonstrably hates to lose when eggs like this are laid with regularity. Have some frigging pride.

How bad does Calgary crush this outfit? 7-2 I'm guessing.


Honestly, if I'm running the team, I shut down Smith tonight. There's an opportunity with the fact he was hurt in the third period and the injury history this season to say that he's re-aggravated an injury and just put him on LTIR so as to spare his feelings. He should not be given another chance to hurt the team more though. Skinner is just a better option at this point in time, and the Oilers can't afford to lose any extra points in trying to save someone's ego or recapture old glories of yesteryear.

It's the Oilers though so it's 50/50 he gets a chance to redeem himself next week.



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I was hoping Holloway could've been added to the roster this season. but I'm thinking now its better to keep him away from this tire fire.


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So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.



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Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


Stauffer with the 1st ⭐️

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inverno76 wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 22:24

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


Stauffer with the 1st ⭐️

Best news I’ve heard since Tippett’s firing.


Worth noting, Stauffer hasn't said this. I believe that they're referring to that rumour account. Tracy Lane or whatever it is.

Hopefully this happens, but it hasn't officially yet.



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Adam wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 22:44

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 22:24

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


Stauffer with the 1st ⭐️

Best news I’ve heard since Tippett’s firing.


Worth noting, Stauffer hasn't said this. I believe that they're referring to that rumour account. Tracy Lane or whatever it is.

Hopefully this happens, but it hasn't officially yet.


Smith has had moments in his last number of starts where he's looked like something is nagging him. That shouldn't be lost on anyone in the organization, anyone that watches the games can see it. The thing is, it can't be doing anything but hurt his ability to play the position, and I don't know how the goalie coach, the training staff or either of the 2 head coaches can let him play through something bothering him, not to mention given the quality of his starts. It's not like he's a plug winger skating around a little banged up, he's the damn goaltender with an .800 or worse sv% on given nights. Jaysus wept.



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Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


There is no way that Smith is not going to try his best to play next season too, is there? Battler gonna battle.



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Kr55 wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 23:29

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


There is no way that Smith is not going to try his best to play next season too, is there? Battler gonna battle.


It would be ineptitude of the highest order if the Oilers allowed him to come back again, but I really don't think I'd bet on them not doing it.

I'm still not going to be shocked if Koskinen/Smith is the tandem to start the year again next year, because these guys never learn.

Does Smith have a no-move clause? I thought he did, but I can't see one on CapFriendly, so maybe I'm imagining that. It would be not ideal if he can block assignment to the AHL...

As I said though, if I'm managing the team, I'm working hard to convince him to accept an assignment to LTIR permanently.



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Adam wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 00:09

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 23:29

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


There is no way that Smith is not going to try his best to play next season too, is there? Battler gonna battle.


It would be ineptitude of the highest order if the Oilers allowed him to come back again, but I really don't think I'd bet on them not doing it.

I'm still not going to be shocked if Koskinen/Smith is the tandem to start the year again next year, because these guys never learn.

Does Smith have a no-move clause? I thought he did, but I can't see one on CapFriendly, so maybe I'm imagining that. It would be not ideal if he can block assignment to the AHL...

As I said though, if I'm managing the team, I'm working hard to convince him to accept an assignment to LTIR permanently.


Lol, I wonder what Smith wanted for just a 1 year deal. 2.5M instead of 2.2? We may regret not paying up!

The crap we've been hearing lately about him insisting on playing. I have a feeling Smith might be one of those rare guys that would refuse to play ball with LTIR or retirement. He'll just keep insisting on coming back like an annoying bastard (battler). I guess it happens to even the best of them. I think Andrew Ladd kept insisting on coming back with the Islanders and Lou had to take a loss in a trade to move him.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 00:15

Adam wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 00:09

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 23:29

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


There is no way that Smith is not going to try his best to play next season too, is there? Battler gonna battle.


It would be ineptitude of the highest order if the Oilers allowed him to come back again, but I really don't think I'd bet on them not doing it.

I'm still not going to be shocked if Koskinen/Smith is the tandem to start the year again next year, because these guys never learn.

Does Smith have a no-move clause? I thought he did, but I can't see one on CapFriendly, so maybe I'm imagining that. It would be not ideal if he can block assignment to the AHL...

As I said though, if I'm managing the team, I'm working hard to convince him to accept an assignment to LTIR permanently.


Lol, I wonder what Smith wanted for just a 1 year deal. 2.5M instead of 2.2? We may regret not paying up!

The crap we've been hearing lately about him insisting on playing. I have a feeling Smith might be one of those rare guys that would refuse to play ball with LTIR or retirement. He'll just keep insisting on coming back like an annoying bastard (battler). I guess it happens to even the best of them. I think Andrew Ladd kept insisting on coming back with the Islanders and Lou had to take a loss in a trade to move him.


So let me get this straight: Smith played his ass off last season to give us hope while everyone screamed ditch Koskinen. Smith gets hurt early in the season, comes back with no conditioning stint, sucks, then wins, gets overplayed and sucks again. Incredibly weak defence for the most part. Insanely bad PK and declining PP because of coaching and/or player performance issues. Bad enough that the coach gets fired. A major systemic failure in filling holes in the lineup with plenty of cap space plus decades long developmental failures of our farm system. The 2nd line out injured. A culture that holds no one accountable. AND WE EXPECT IT TO CHANGE????

Oilers goalies let in one turkey per game. We have the two best players in hockey (pointwise is all I will concede on that fact) and are piling up L's when we need to secure a playoff spot. MIKE SMITH ISN'T ON THE PP. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T GIVE UP BREAKWAYS ON A FLAWED PP STRATEGY. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T PLAY THE "I" FORMATION ON THE PK. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COLLAPSE IN THE SLOT UNDER PRESSURE (OK, I'll concede on that point without too much argument, but you get my point). MIKE SMITH DOESN'T FILL ROSTER SPOTS WITH BLOWN CAP SPACE. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T LEAVE HIMSELF IN NET WHEN THE ENTIRE WESTERN HEMISPHERE SEES HE'S HAVING A BAD NIGHT. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COAST THROUGH THE NEUTRAL ZONE, DUMP AND NOT CHASE, PLAY WEAK IN THE CORNERS, LEAVE THE SLOT OPEN (at both ends), OR FAIL TO SCORE WHEN HE'S EXPECTED.

Crapping all over Smith is so typical of us here - looking for scapegoats to cover the real organizational suck on this team. We've run so many goalies out of this city to protect GMs and coaches and asst coaches instead of punishing systemic failure.

SMITH SUCKED TONIGHT. SO PULL HIM, WOODCROFT!!!! But no, hang him out to suck, so the heat is on the G and not the rest of the schmucks playing minimite hockey, coaching by blender and playing favourites instead of rewarding success, and running this team like Anita McCambridge.





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stemhovlichski wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 01:33

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 00:15

Adam wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 00:09

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 23:29

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


There is no way that Smith is not going to try his best to play next season too, is there? Battler gonna battle.


It would be ineptitude of the highest order if the Oilers allowed him to come back again, but I really don't think I'd bet on them not doing it.

I'm still not going to be shocked if Koskinen/Smith is the tandem to start the year again next year, because these guys never learn.

Does Smith have a no-move clause? I thought he did, but I can't see one on CapFriendly, so maybe I'm imagining that. It would be not ideal if he can block assignment to the AHL...

As I said though, if I'm managing the team, I'm working hard to convince him to accept an assignment to LTIR permanently.


Lol, I wonder what Smith wanted for just a 1 year deal. 2.5M instead of 2.2? We may regret not paying up!

The crap we've been hearing lately about him insisting on playing. I have a feeling Smith might be one of those rare guys that would refuse to play ball with LTIR or retirement. He'll just keep insisting on coming back like an annoying bastard (battler). I guess it happens to even the best of them. I think Andrew Ladd kept insisting on coming back with the Islanders and Lou had to take a loss in a trade to move him.


So let me get this straight: Smith played his ass off last season to give us hope while everyone screamed ditch Koskinen. Smith gets hurt early in the season, comes back with no conditioning stint, sucks, then wins, gets overplayed and sucks again. Incredibly weak defence for the most part. Insanely bad PK and declining PP because of coaching and/or player performance issues. Bad enough that the coach gets fired. A major systemic failure in filling holes in the lineup with plenty of cap space plus decades long developmental failures of our farm system. The 2nd line out injured. A culture that holds no one accountable. AND WE EXPECT IT TO CHANGE????

Oilers goalies let in one turkey per game. We have the two best players in hockey (pointwise is all I will concede on that fact) and are piling up L's when we need to secure a playoff spot. MIKE SMITH ISN'T ON THE PP. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T GIVE UP BREAKWAYS ON A FLAWED PP STRATEGY. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T PLAY THE "I" FORMATION ON THE PK. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COLLAPSE IN THE SLOT UNDER PRESSURE (OK, I'll concede on that point without too much argument, but you get my point). MIKE SMITH DOESN'T FILL ROSTER SPOTS WITH BLOWN CAP SPACE. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T LEAVE HIMSELF IN NET WHEN THE ENTIRE WESTERN HEMISPHERE SEES HE'S HAVING A BAD NIGHT. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COAST THROUGH THE NEUTRAL ZONE, DUMP AND NOT CHASE, PLAY WEAK IN THE CORNERS, LEAVE THE SLOT OPEN (at both ends), OR FAIL TO SCORE WHEN HE'S EXPECTED.

Crapping all over Smith is so typical of us here - looking for scapegoats to cover the real organizational suck on this team. We've run so many goalies out of this city to protect GMs and coaches and asst coaches instead of punishing systemic failure.

SMITH SUCKED TONIGHT. SO PULL HIM, WOODCROFT!!!! But no, hang him out to suck, so the heat is on the G and not the rest of the schmucks playing minimite hockey, coaching by blender and playing favourites instead of rewarding success, and running this team like Anita McCambridge.




Sometimes, a goalie needs to win you a game. Smith is incapable of this.
His meltdown and showing up the crowd cements it. Get him the eff away from this team.



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Slim Jim Phantom Call wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 03:22

stemhovlichski wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 01:33

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 00:15

Adam wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 00:09

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 23:29

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


There is no way that Smith is not going to try his best to play next season too, is there? Battler gonna battle.


It would be ineptitude of the highest order if the Oilers allowed him to come back again, but I really don't think I'd bet on them not doing it.

I'm still not going to be shocked if Koskinen/Smith is the tandem to start the year again next year, because these guys never learn.

Does Smith have a no-move clause? I thought he did, but I can't see one on CapFriendly, so maybe I'm imagining that. It would be not ideal if he can block assignment to the AHL...

As I said though, if I'm managing the team, I'm working hard to convince him to accept an assignment to LTIR permanently.


Lol, I wonder what Smith wanted for just a 1 year deal. 2.5M instead of 2.2? We may regret not paying up!

The crap we've been hearing lately about him insisting on playing. I have a feeling Smith might be one of those rare guys that would refuse to play ball with LTIR or retirement. He'll just keep insisting on coming back like an annoying bastard (battler). I guess it happens to even the best of them. I think Andrew Ladd kept insisting on coming back with the Islanders and Lou had to take a loss in a trade to move him.


So let me get this straight: Smith played his ass off last season to give us hope while everyone screamed ditch Koskinen. Smith gets hurt early in the season, comes back with no conditioning stint, sucks, then wins, gets overplayed and sucks again. Incredibly weak defence for the most part. Insanely bad PK and declining PP because of coaching and/or player performance issues. Bad enough that the coach gets fired. A major systemic failure in filling holes in the lineup with plenty of cap space plus decades long developmental failures of our farm system. The 2nd line out injured. A culture that holds no one accountable. AND WE EXPECT IT TO CHANGE????

Oilers goalies let in one turkey per game. We have the two best players in hockey (pointwise is all I will concede on that fact) and are piling up L's when we need to secure a playoff spot. MIKE SMITH ISN'T ON THE PP. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T GIVE UP BREAKWAYS ON A FLAWED PP STRATEGY. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T PLAY THE "I" FORMATION ON THE PK. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COLLAPSE IN THE SLOT UNDER PRESSURE (OK, I'll concede on that point without too much argument, but you get my point). MIKE SMITH DOESN'T FILL ROSTER SPOTS WITH BLOWN CAP SPACE. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T LEAVE HIMSELF IN NET WHEN THE ENTIRE WESTERN HEMISPHERE SEES HE'S HAVING A BAD NIGHT. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COAST THROUGH THE NEUTRAL ZONE, DUMP AND NOT CHASE, PLAY WEAK IN THE CORNERS, LEAVE THE SLOT OPEN (at both ends), OR FAIL TO SCORE WHEN HE'S EXPECTED.

Crapping all over Smith is so typical of us here - looking for scapegoats to cover the real organizational suck on this team. We've run so many goalies out of this city to protect GMs and coaches and asst coaches instead of punishing systemic failure.

SMITH SUCKED TONIGHT. SO PULL HIM, WOODCROFT!!!! But no, hang him out to suck, so the heat is on the G and not the rest of the schmucks playing minimite hockey, coaching by blender and playing favourites instead of rewarding success, and running this team like Anita McCambridge.




Sometimes, a goalie needs to win you a game. Smith is incapable of this.
His meltdown and showing up the crowd cements it. Get him the eff away from this team.



Also... smith is on the powerplay. He’s let in goals while on the powerplay 🤷🏻‍♂️

He’s a rusted out F-150 surrounded by off the lot Silverados. His time has come to hit the scrap heap.



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stemhovlichski wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 01:33

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Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


There is no way that Smith is not going to try his best to play next season too, is there? Battler gonna battle.


It would be ineptitude of the highest order if the Oilers allowed him to come back again, but I really don't think I'd bet on them not doing it.

I'm still not going to be shocked if Koskinen/Smith is the tandem to start the year again next year, because these guys never learn.

Does Smith have a no-move clause? I thought he did, but I can't see one on CapFriendly, so maybe I'm imagining that. It would be not ideal if he can block assignment to the AHL...

As I said though, if I'm managing the team, I'm working hard to convince him to accept an assignment to LTIR permanently.


Lol, I wonder what Smith wanted for just a 1 year deal. 2.5M instead of 2.2? We may regret not paying up!

The crap we've been hearing lately about him insisting on playing. I have a feeling Smith might be one of those rare guys that would refuse to play ball with LTIR or retirement. He'll just keep insisting on coming back like an annoying bastard (battler). I guess it happens to even the best of them. I think Andrew Ladd kept insisting on coming back with the Islanders and Lou had to take a loss in a trade to move him.


So let me get this straight: Smith played his ass off last season to give us hope while everyone screamed ditch Koskinen. Smith gets hurt early in the season, comes back with no conditioning stint, sucks, then wins, gets overplayed and sucks again. Incredibly weak defence for the most part. Insanely bad PK and declining PP because of coaching and/or player performance issues. Bad enough that the coach gets fired. A major systemic failure in filling holes in the lineup with plenty of cap space plus decades long developmental failures of our farm system. The 2nd line out injured. A culture that holds no one accountable. AND WE EXPECT IT TO CHANGE????

Oilers goalies let in one turkey per game. We have the two best players in hockey (pointwise is all I will concede on that fact) and are piling up L's when we need to secure a playoff spot. MIKE SMITH ISN'T ON THE PP. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T GIVE UP BREAKWAYS ON A FLAWED PP STRATEGY. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T PLAY THE "I" FORMATION ON THE PK. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COLLAPSE IN THE SLOT UNDER PRESSURE (OK, I'll concede on that point without too much argument, but you get my point). MIKE SMITH DOESN'T FILL ROSTER SPOTS WITH BLOWN CAP SPACE. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T LEAVE HIMSELF IN NET WHEN THE ENTIRE WESTERN HEMISPHERE SEES HE'S HAVING A BAD NIGHT. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COAST THROUGH THE NEUTRAL ZONE, DUMP AND NOT CHASE, PLAY WEAK IN THE CORNERS, LEAVE THE SLOT OPEN (at both ends), OR FAIL TO SCORE WHEN HE'S EXPECTED.

Crapping all over Smith is so typical of us here - looking for scapegoats to cover the real organizational suck on this team. We've run so many goalies out of this city to protect GMs and coaches and asst coaches instead of punishing systemic failure.

SMITH SUCKED TONIGHT. SO PULL HIM, WOODCROFT!!!! But no, hang him out to suck, so the heat is on the G and not the rest of the schmucks playing minimite hockey, coaching by blender and playing favourites instead of rewarding success, and running this team like Anita McCambridge.



I think we all know what Smith is here. Not a good solution if we want to win for extended periods of time. Definitely not smart to have him signed next year. That's pretty much it. How the team plays in front of him doesn't really change things. The bad results he has a major hand in are annoying. Watching him flop around, chase guys out of his net, be almost inside his net for a 25 ft shot, super annoying too. Team is certainly not built to be able to consistently play perfect hockey so he never gets a chance to do goofy stuff.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 11:17

stemhovlichski wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 01:33

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 00:15

Adam wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 00:09

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 23:29

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


There is no way that Smith is not going to try his best to play next season too, is there? Battler gonna battle.


It would be ineptitude of the highest order if the Oilers allowed him to come back again, but I really don't think I'd bet on them not doing it.

I'm still not going to be shocked if Koskinen/Smith is the tandem to start the year again next year, because these guys never learn.

Does Smith have a no-move clause? I thought he did, but I can't see one on CapFriendly, so maybe I'm imagining that. It would be not ideal if he can block assignment to the AHL...

As I said though, if I'm managing the team, I'm working hard to convince him to accept an assignment to LTIR permanently.


Lol, I wonder what Smith wanted for just a 1 year deal. 2.5M instead of 2.2? We may regret not paying up!

The crap we've been hearing lately about him insisting on playing. I have a feeling Smith might be one of those rare guys that would refuse to play ball with LTIR or retirement. He'll just keep insisting on coming back like an annoying bastard (battler). I guess it happens to even the best of them. I think Andrew Ladd kept insisting on coming back with the Islanders and Lou had to take a loss in a trade to move him.


So let me get this straight: Smith played his ass off last season to give us hope while everyone screamed ditch Koskinen. Smith gets hurt early in the season, comes back with no conditioning stint, sucks, then wins, gets overplayed and sucks again. Incredibly weak defence for the most part. Insanely bad PK and declining PP because of coaching and/or player performance issues. Bad enough that the coach gets fired. A major systemic failure in filling holes in the lineup with plenty of cap space plus decades long developmental failures of our farm system. The 2nd line out injured. A culture that holds no one accountable. AND WE EXPECT IT TO CHANGE????

Oilers goalies let in one turkey per game. We have the two best players in hockey (pointwise is all I will concede on that fact) and are piling up L's when we need to secure a playoff spot. MIKE SMITH ISN'T ON THE PP. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T GIVE UP BREAKWAYS ON A FLAWED PP STRATEGY. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T PLAY THE "I" FORMATION ON THE PK. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COLLAPSE IN THE SLOT UNDER PRESSURE (OK, I'll concede on that point without too much argument, but you get my point). MIKE SMITH DOESN'T FILL ROSTER SPOTS WITH BLOWN CAP SPACE. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T LEAVE HIMSELF IN NET WHEN THE ENTIRE WESTERN HEMISPHERE SEES HE'S HAVING A BAD NIGHT. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COAST THROUGH THE NEUTRAL ZONE, DUMP AND NOT CHASE, PLAY WEAK IN THE CORNERS, LEAVE THE SLOT OPEN (at both ends), OR FAIL TO SCORE WHEN HE'S EXPECTED.

Crapping all over Smith is so typical of us here - looking for scapegoats to cover the real organizational suck on this team. We've run so many goalies out of this city to protect GMs and coaches and asst coaches instead of punishing systemic failure.

SMITH SUCKED TONIGHT. SO PULL HIM, WOODCROFT!!!! But no, hang him out to suck, so the heat is on the G and not the rest of the schmucks playing minimite hockey, coaching by blender and playing favourites instead of rewarding success, and running this team like Anita McCambridge.



I think we all know what Smith is here. Not a good solution if we want to win for extended periods of time. Definitely not smart to have him signed next year. That's pretty much it. How the team plays in front of him doesn't really change things. The bad results he has a major hand in are annoying. Watching him flop around, chase guys out of his net, be almost inside his net for a 25 ft shot, super annoying too. Team is certainly not built to be able to consistently play perfect hockey so he never gets a chance to do goofy stuff.


I don't think I've ever been accused of being soft on management, and no mistake, it's Holland's fault that Smith was re-signed at all, that he was re-signed for too long, and that he keeps getting the push and hasn't been sat down for a heart-to-heart before now.

But Smith's not getting the job done. He was saved by the video judge a couple of times, including on one where the off-side had nothing to do with the scoring play. He fished a lot of pucks out of his own net last night and it's not like that's an anomaly. He's been shelled almost every game since he returned. He clearly shouldn't be back in the goal any time soon, and given his age, it's probable that he should never start another game for the Oilers. Last year was an anomaly in a short season where he caught lightning in a bottle. He should have retired and gone out on top.



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Adam wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 12:18

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 11:17

stemhovlichski wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 01:33

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 00:15

Adam wrote on Sun, 06 March 2022 00:09

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 23:29

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 05 March 2022 21:29

So Smith to LTIR and Skinner recalled?

Was supposed to be available for media post game but did not come out, was receiving medical treatment. Stauffer’s pet posted on twitter that Smith to IR and Skinner recall.


There is no way that Smith is not going to try his best to play next season too, is there? Battler gonna battle.


It would be ineptitude of the highest order if the Oilers allowed him to come back again, but I really don't think I'd bet on them not doing it.

I'm still not going to be shocked if Koskinen/Smith is the tandem to start the year again next year, because these guys never learn.

Does Smith have a no-move clause? I thought he did, but I can't see one on CapFriendly, so maybe I'm imagining that. It would be not ideal if he can block assignment to the AHL...

As I said though, if I'm managing the team, I'm working hard to convince him to accept an assignment to LTIR permanently.


Lol, I wonder what Smith wanted for just a 1 year deal. 2.5M instead of 2.2? We may regret not paying up!

The crap we've been hearing lately about him insisting on playing. I have a feeling Smith might be one of those rare guys that would refuse to play ball with LTIR or retirement. He'll just keep insisting on coming back like an annoying bastard (battler). I guess it happens to even the best of them. I think Andrew Ladd kept insisting on coming back with the Islanders and Lou had to take a loss in a trade to move him.


So let me get this straight: Smith played his ass off last season to give us hope while everyone screamed ditch Koskinen. Smith gets hurt early in the season, comes back with no conditioning stint, sucks, then wins, gets overplayed and sucks again. Incredibly weak defence for the most part. Insanely bad PK and declining PP because of coaching and/or player performance issues. Bad enough that the coach gets fired. A major systemic failure in filling holes in the lineup with plenty of cap space plus decades long developmental failures of our farm system. The 2nd line out injured. A culture that holds no one accountable. AND WE EXPECT IT TO CHANGE????

Oilers goalies let in one turkey per game. We have the two best players in hockey (pointwise is all I will concede on that fact) and are piling up L's when we need to secure a playoff spot. MIKE SMITH ISN'T ON THE PP. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T GIVE UP BREAKWAYS ON A FLAWED PP STRATEGY. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T PLAY THE "I" FORMATION ON THE PK. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COLLAPSE IN THE SLOT UNDER PRESSURE (OK, I'll concede on that point without too much argument, but you get my point). MIKE SMITH DOESN'T FILL ROSTER SPOTS WITH BLOWN CAP SPACE. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T LEAVE HIMSELF IN NET WHEN THE ENTIRE WESTERN HEMISPHERE SEES HE'S HAVING A BAD NIGHT. MIKE SMITH DOESN'T COAST THROUGH THE NEUTRAL ZONE, DUMP AND NOT CHASE, PLAY WEAK IN THE CORNERS, LEAVE THE SLOT OPEN (at both ends), OR FAIL TO SCORE WHEN HE'S EXPECTED.

Crapping all over Smith is so typical of us here - looking for scapegoats to cover the real organizational suck on this team. We've run so many goalies out of this city to protect GMs and coaches and asst coaches instead of punishing systemic failure.

SMITH SUCKED TONIGHT. SO PULL HIM, WOODCROFT!!!! But no, hang him out to suck, so the heat is on the G and not the rest of the schmucks playing minimite hockey, coaching by blender and playing favourites instead of rewarding success, and running this team like Anita McCambridge.



I think we all know what Smith is here. Not a good solution if we want to win for extended periods of time. Definitely not smart to have him signed next year. That's pretty much it. How the team plays in front of him doesn't really change things. The bad results he has a major hand in are annoying. Watching him flop around, chase guys out of his net, be almost inside his net for a 25 ft shot, super annoying too. Team is certainly not built to be able to consistently play perfect hockey so he never gets a chance to do goofy stuff.


I don't think I've ever been accused of being soft on management, and no mistake, it's Holland's fault that Smith was re-signed at all, that he was re-signed for too long, and that he keeps getting the push and hasn't been sat down for a heart-to-heart before now.

But Smith's not getting the job done. He was saved by the video judge a couple of times, including on one where the off-side had nothing to do with the scoring play. He fished a lot of pucks out of his own net last night and it's not like that's an anomaly. He's been shelled almost every game since he returned. He clearly shouldn't be back in the goal any time soon, and given his age, it's probable that he should never start another game for the Oilers. Last year was an anomaly in a short season where he caught lightning in a bottle. He should have retired and gone out on top.


Nope, definitely not calling you out for being soft on management! Smith was brutal, so why didn't they yank him? Day off today and short trip south tomorrow so resting Koskinen isn't an excuse. We all pretty much agreed that one year of Smith with 20-25 games played was expected, but Holland is still learning the ropes I guess and showed us how it's done. If we have a minor leaguer who's a major leaguer and a major leaguer who's a minor leaguer - DEAL WITH IT OILERS! Embarrass the GM for a crappy deal, force him to deal with cap space by moving players and making it fit, get rid of some useless baggage, reward success and punish failure. deadhorse





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The Oilers didn't play with a ton of jump in the game so I am not going to pin the whole loss on Smith though I thought he wasn't very good. One of the things he did not do which I think is critical is come up with that big save at a key time.

At the end of the first period, the Habs goalie robbed Leon. I have to think going into the room, the Habs would have been feeling good but that would have I am sure pumped them up even more.



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Management should have never brought Smith back. I’d love to Koskinen gone too, but that problem was inherited.

Smith has either been injured or suspect all year. This team for all it flaws is not much different than most. Every team gives up big chances, the winning teams usually get big saves. How much different are the Oil breakdowns from other teams? We’ve witnessed some great teams the past two weeks and the Oilers have ran beside them for the majority. The big save is the Sasquatch of Edmonton.



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inverno76 wrote on Mon, 07 March 2022 18:37

Management should have never brought Smith back. I’d love to Koskinen gone too, but that problem was inherited.

Smith has either been injured or suspect all year. This team for all it flaws is not much different than most. Every team gives up big chances, the winning teams usually get big saves. How much different are the Oil breakdowns from other teams? We’ve witnessed some great teams the past two weeks and the Oilers have ran beside them for the majority. The big save is the Sasquatch of Edmonton.


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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 07 March 2022 18:38

inverno76 wrote on Mon, 07 March 2022 18:37

Management should have never brought Smith back. I’d love to Koskinen gone too, but that problem was inherited.

Smith has either been injured or suspect all year. This team for all it flaws is not much different than most. Every team gives up big chances, the winning teams usually get big saves. How much different are the Oil breakdowns from other teams? We’ve witnessed some great teams the past two weeks and the Oilers have ran beside them for the majority. The big save is the Sasquatch of Edmonton.


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inverno76 wrote on Mon, 07 March 2022 18:43

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 07 March 2022 18:38

inverno76 wrote on Mon, 07 March 2022 18:37

Management should have never brought Smith back. I’d love to Koskinen gone too, but that problem was inherited.

Smith has either been injured or suspect all year. This team for all it flaws is not much different than most. Every team gives up big chances, the winning teams usually get big saves. How much different are the Oil breakdowns from other teams? We’ve witnessed some great teams the past two weeks and the Oilers have ran beside them for the majority. The big save is the Sasquatch of Edmonton.


The big save tonight will be my zipper refusing to allow my pants to come off


Never change…..you are a glorious being and great Saskatchewan spokesman for Alberta. .



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