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Per Oilers twitter;

#Oilers CEO & Vice Chair Bob Nicholson & Interim General Manager Keith Gretzky will address the media at 10am MT. You can watch live on Twitter along with EdmontonOilers.com, YouTube.com/Oilers, our Facebook page & our app.



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 08:52

Per Oilers twitter;

#Oilers CEO & Vice Chair Bob Nicholson & Interim General Manager Keith Gretzky will address the media at 10am MT. You can watch live on Twitter along with EdmontonOilers.com, YouTube.com/Oilers, our Facebook page & our app.


you know a certain site will meltdown with anti oiler abuse when it starts



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steve.kreys wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 09:07

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 08:52

Per Oilers twitter;

#Oilers CEO & Vice Chair Bob Nicholson & Interim General Manager Keith Gretzky will address the media at 10am MT. You can watch live on Twitter along with EdmontonOilers.com, YouTube.com/Oilers, our Facebook page & our app.


you know a certain site will meltdown with anti oiler abuse when it starts


Which site?!?! I want to go there.



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Looking forward to seeing how they alienate the fanbase today while smugly believing they know best and repeat the same mistakes that have resulted in missing the playoffs 12 of the last 13 years and 14 of the last 17. You could look for the common thread, but I'm sure the water or the weather will be to blame.


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mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 09:15

Looking forward to seeing how they alienate the fanbase today while smugly believing they know best and repeat the same mistakes that have resulted in missing the playoffs 12 of the last 13 years and 14 of the last 17. You could look for the common thread, but I'm sure the water or the weather will be to blame.

Lol - yep. Hoping for another classic Oilers presser that will (further) embarrass the org.

You'd have to think they will try to tone it down a bit though and not say anything outrageously stupid. Fortunately not saying dumb things isn't really Nicholson's strong point.

Hey do you think DK will call Burgers on his cell live during the presser??



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mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:15

repeat the same mistakes that have resulted in missing the playoffs 12 of the last 13 years and 14 of the last 17. You could look for the common thread, but I'm sure the water or the weather will be to blame.


Why would you blame management? Until this brief 13 years of only making the playoffs once, your stats show that they made the playoffs 2 of the 4 years. That is a management team worth ensuring they never lose their jobs.



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Wow. No prepared statements. Just a Q & A. If it were me, I would make 3 minutes of statement to set the tone and narrative.


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please update for those unable to watch! icon_thumbsup


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Audio keeps cutting out on TSN 1260, but it sure sounded like Bobby waxed poetically about evaluating the current people and saying some of them have done a very good job then immediately went on a rant about the need for having the right people in place. He's also done a lot of hiring in hockey. So he's got this handled, if it was ever a concern.

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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:20

Audio keeps cutting out on TSN 1260, but it sure sounded like Bobby waxed poetically about evaluating the current people and saying some of them have done a very good job then immediately went on a rant about the need for having the right people in place. He's also done a lot of hiring in hockey. So he's got this handled, if it was ever a concern.

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That's when I turned it off. That's all I need to know about the direction of that club.



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Keith is definitely approaching this conference like it's part of his job interview, lol.


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Had to turn it off, Bob said in no uncertain terms the core of the management people are really really good and have done really really good things.

No they haven't.. can MacT get a pass putting his mark on the Condors? I don't know.. but this mix of management hasn't made any difference in 13 years!



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Bob is a friendly face and friendship/relationship builder. He'll bend over backwards to make people happy. But a complete fish out of water when it comes to critical evaluation and decisions, listening to him talk is utter painful because he is being expected to make a decision he is extremely poorly equipped to make.

Spector and Bob both banging the Keith Gretzky drums and it makes me ill because it sounds like the decision has already been made and they are throwing this facade up to make it look legit.



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Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 13:23

Had to turn it off, Bob said in no uncertain terms the core of the management people are really really good and have done really really good things.

No they haven't.. can MacT get a pass putting his mark on the Condors? I don't know.. but this mix of management hasn't made any difference in 13 years!


What in the actual F? So sick of hearing that crap. Like you say: NO!!!! No they have not done good things. They are the worst in the entire history of hockey. I wish that was hyperbole. Un freaking believable.



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Keith says he has a plan! But he's not perma-GM yet so he can't share it.

Nicholson follows up saying we need to give the fans a plan.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:24

Keith says he has a plan! But he's not perma-GM yet so he can't share it.

Nicholson follows up saying we need to give the fans a plan.

Haha - intriguing!

Any update on the unveiling of the previous PLAN(s)?



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Jay wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 09:27

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:24

Keith says he has a plan! But he's not perma-GM yet so he can't share it.

Nicholson follows up saying we need to give the fans a plan.

Haha - intriguing!

Any update on the unveiling of the previous PLAN(s)?


1 - conduct interviews to make fans happy

2 - hire Keith Gretzky

3 - Stanley Cup



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nullterm wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:30

Jay wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 09:27

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:24

Keith says he has a plan! But he's not perma-GM yet so he can't share it.

Nicholson follows up saying we need to give the fans a plan.

Haha - intriguing!

Any update on the unveiling of the previous PLAN(s)?


1 - conduct interviews to make fans happy

2 - hire Keith Gretzky

3 - Stanley Cup

Mmmm I like it. One point I think you missed:

..
2a - Hit the cottage for a month or two of R&R and wine to celebrate a job well done!
..



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Jay wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:27

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:24

Keith says he has a plan! But he's not perma-GM yet so he can't share it.

Nicholson follows up saying we need to give the fans a plan.

Haha - intriguing!

Any update on the unveiling of the previous PLAN(s)?

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Wine anyone?


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Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:25

Wine anyone?

Big Bear. This team deserves malted liquor not wine.



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A whole lotta nothing in that conference. Constant evaluation. Everybody stays until new GM gets here. Oh and the new GM has to be open with fans.


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smyth260 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 09:31

A whole lotta nothing in that conference. Constant evaluation. Everybody stays until new GM gets here. Oh and the new GM has to be open with fans.


The organization has been horrible for over a decade, but we've had people here the whole time at a high level that have been doing good work. drink



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I guess nobody gave Bob a time limit on his forensic audit. He is still poking at the corpse trying to determine if there are signs of life. Kevin Lowe says there is.

Nothing will ever change.

(Also, I could care less if the new GM is standing in front of the microphone telling me a plan. I'd actually rather they didn't. Show me. I've heard enough talk).



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Well I didn’t hear the presser but it looks like we are in good hands. When is KG officially being announced?


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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:38

Well I didn’t hear the presser but it looks like we are in good hands. When is KG officially being announced?

13-17 months after he's hired, once the bloom is off the rose and the organization is back into panic mode.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:40

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:38

Well I didn’t hear the presser but it looks like we are in good hands. When is KG officially being announced?

13-17 months after he's hired, once the bloom is off the rose and the organization is back into panic mode.

Notice they are leaving the POHO job vacant?

We know he won't get fired so why not just slip him in to the POHO role after his GM tenure fails miserably?



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Jay wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:54

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:40

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:38

Well I didn’t hear the presser but it looks like we are in good hands. When is KG officially being announced?

13-17 months after he's hired, once the bloom is off the rose and the organization is back into panic mode.

Notice they are leaving the POHO job vacant?

We know he won't get fired so why not just slip him in to the POHO role after his GM tenure fails miserably?


Bobby is probably a confident POHO now. 2 months of hard work learning that a POHO and GM does has paid off. He passed the POHO quiz and essay assignments that Lowe prepared for him.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:56

He passed the POHO quiz and essay assignments that Lowe prepared for him.


Pretty sure the test was just a colouring book and all he had to do was stay inside the lines.



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I feel sorry for the guy in charge of selling tickets.


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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:05

I feel sorry for the guy in charge of selling tickets.


Yeah, instead of being arrogant and not having to do anything they will have to actually work.




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Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:23

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:05

I feel sorry for the guy in charge of selling tickets.


Yeah, instead of being arrogant and not having to do anything they will have to actually work.



Fair point.

I just mean he's probably going to get blamed for a failed season ticket drive and there was likely nothing he could do this year to get renewals.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:25

Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:23

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:05

I feel sorry for the guy in charge of selling tickets.


Yeah, instead of being arrogant and not having to do anything they will have to actually work.



Fair point.

I just mean he's probably going to get blamed for a failed season ticket drive and there was likely nothing he could do this year to get renewals.


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It is definitely stupid that Gretzky was there. All he really did at the conference was try to sell himself and treat this like an audition, even teasing his has a great plan. That's pretty dumb if Bob is making an honest effort to find the best possible guy.




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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:40

It is definitely stupid that Gretzky was there. All he really did at the conference was try to sell himself and treat this like an audition, even teasing his has a great plan. That's pretty dumb if Bob is making an honest effort to find the best possible guy.




Why was it stupid for Gretzky to be there? If he is not, who's going to answer any player related questions? The media guys asked specific player related questions. They asked about the trades, they asked about the draft, they asked about what the current team is missing. ALL player personnel stuff. Someone involved in the hockey side needed to be there and right now, with no GM, he's the guy.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:27

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:40

It is definitely stupid that Gretzky was there. All he really did at the conference was try to sell himself and treat this like an audition, even teasing his has a great plan. That's pretty dumb if Bob is making an honest effort to find the best possible guy.




Why was it stupid for Gretzky to be there? If he is not, who's going to answer any player related questions? The media guys asked specific player related questions. They asked about the trades, they asked about the draft, they asked about what the current team is missing. ALL player personnel stuff. Someone involved in the hockey side needed to be there and right now, with no GM, he's the guy.


What do you mean “no GM”? He was right there.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:27

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:40

It is definitely stupid that Gretzky was there. All he really did at the conference was try to sell himself and treat this like an audition, even teasing his has a great plan. That's pretty dumb if Bob is making an honest effort to find the best possible guy.




Why was it stupid for Gretzky to be there? If he is not, who's going to answer any player related questions? The media guys asked specific player related questions. They asked about the trades, they asked about the draft, they asked about what the current team is missing. ALL player personnel stuff. Someone involved in the hockey side needed to be there and right now, with no GM, he's the guy.



If you are a great GM candidate and you're looking for a nice place to land, do you choose the place where there's two other guys who used to hold the role in the organization (with a nebulous structure that makes it unclear if you're slotted above or below them) plus another former GM in a similar nebulous position AND the interim GM, who's announced he wants the position you're applying for, and who'll almost certainly still be expected to play SOME role if you are hired. Oh, and he's the brother of the Vice-Chair, who the owner loves.

The optics on bringing him out here aren't good. And they should have had a better plan for what he'd say if he was asked about the job search - "I can't really comment on that" would have been a hell of a lot better than "I want the job."



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Adam wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 12:22

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:27

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:40

It is definitely stupid that Gretzky was there. All he really did at the conference was try to sell himself and treat this like an audition, even teasing his has a great plan. That's pretty dumb if Bob is making an honest effort to find the best possible guy.




Why was it stupid for Gretzky to be there? If he is not, who's going to answer any player related questions? The media guys asked specific player related questions. They asked about the trades, they asked about the draft, they asked about what the current team is missing. ALL player personnel stuff. Someone involved in the hockey side needed to be there and right now, with no GM, he's the guy.



If you are a great GM candidate and you're looking for a nice place to land, do you choose the place where there's two other guys who used to hold the role in the organization (with a nebulous structure that makes it unclear if you're slotted above or below them) plus another former GM in a similar nebulous position AND the interim GM, who's announced he wants the position you're applying for, and who'll almost certainly still be expected to play SOME role if you are hired. Oh, and he's the brother of the Vice-Chair, who the owner loves.

The optics on bringing him out here aren't good. And they should have had a better plan for what he'd say if he was asked about the job search - "I can't really comment on that" would have been a hell of a lot better than "I want the job."

Listen here Prairie Adam, you're being negatively negative here. The Oilers have the world's best player, a 50 goal scorer, over a dozen cups in management, a new building that isn't losing its luster at all, and a can-do community spirit. There is a lot to like here. A lot. Plus a decade long sell out streak that is very legit.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 12:22

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:27

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:40

It is definitely stupid that Gretzky was there. All he really did at the conference was try to sell himself and treat this like an audition, even teasing his has a great plan. That's pretty dumb if Bob is making an honest effort to find the best possible guy.




Why was it stupid for Gretzky to be there? If he is not, who's going to answer any player related questions? The media guys asked specific player related questions. They asked about the trades, they asked about the draft, they asked about what the current team is missing. ALL player personnel stuff. Someone involved in the hockey side needed to be there and right now, with no GM, he's the guy.



If you are a great GM candidate and you're looking for a nice place to land, do you choose the place where there's two other guys who used to hold the role in the organization (with a nebulous structure that makes it unclear if you're slotted above or below them) plus another former GM in a similar nebulous position AND the interim GM, who's announced he wants the position you're applying for, and who'll almost certainly still be expected to play SOME role if you are hired. Oh, and he's the brother of the Vice-Chair, who the owner loves.

The optics on bringing him out here aren't good. And they should have had a better plan for what he'd say if he was asked about the job search - "I can't really comment on that" would have been a hell of a lot better than "I want the job."


I am a reasonable person and can have his mind changed when given a good argument. So I am willing to listen.

The team currently has no GM in place, they have Gretzky who was the assistant GM, currently handling the duties at this time. They don't have a POHO either so Nicholson is in that role. They are having a year end presser which is required. The media is going to ask questions about players and pro hockey stuff. Nicholson will know some things but he won't be able to properly answer them all. As a fan of the team, I personally want to hear some good answers on some of the player stuff. I assume most people did as well. I sure as hell don't want to hear anyone fluffing past a question or saying "Well I don't really know, I will let the new GM answer that when he gets here." The new GM could be a guy that wasn't here. So how can he give an answer on anything that happened when he wasn't hear? So since you are not a fan and think having Gretzky out there was a mistake, who else is going to answer ANY hockey questions of what happened? They need someone. So who?





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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 12:53

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 12:22

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 11:27

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 April 2019 10:40

It is definitely stupid that Gretzky was there. All he really did at the conference was try to sell himself and treat this like an audition, even teasing his has a great plan. That's pretty dumb if Bob is making an honest effort to find the best possible guy.




Why was it stupid for Gretzky to be there? If he is not, who's going to answer any player related questions? The media guys asked specific player related questions. They asked about the trades, they asked about the draft, they asked about what the current team is missing. ALL player personnel stuff. Someone involved in the hockey side needed to be there and right now, with no GM, he's the guy.



If you are a great GM candidate and you're looking for a nice place to land, do you choose the place where there's two other guys who used to hold the role in the organization (with a nebulous structure that makes it unclear if you're slotted above or below them) plus another former GM in a similar nebulous position AND the interim GM, who's announced he wants the position you're applying for, and who'll almost certainly still be expected to play SOME role if you are hired. Oh, and he's the brother of the Vice-Chair, who the owner loves.

The optics on bringing him out here aren't good. And they should have had a better plan for what he'd say if he was asked about the job search - "I can't really comment on that" would have been a hell of a lot better than "I want the job."


I am a reasonable person and can have his mind changed when given a good argument. So I am willing to listen.

The team currently has no GM in place, they have Gretzky who was the assistant GM, currently handling the duties at this time. They don't have a POHO either so Nicholson is in that role. They are having a year end presser which is required. The media is going to ask questions about players and pro hockey stuff. Nicholson will know some things but he won't be able to properly answer them all. As a fan of the team, I personally want to hear some good answers on some of the player stuff. I assume most people did as well. I sure as hell don't want to hear anyone fluffing past a question or saying "Well I don't really know, I will let the new GM answer that when he gets here." The new GM could be a guy that wasn't here. So how can he give an answer on anything that happened when he wasn't hear? So since you are not a fan and think having Gretzky out there was a mistake, who else is going to answer ANY hockey questions of what happened? They need someone. So who?




I’ll tell you who. Tobias Rieder. It’s the least he can do after making us miss the playoffs and hurting Connor’s knee



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