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Other than not being able to score, a lousy defence and shaky goal tending, this team looks pretty good.


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We totally owned Arizona and Minny tonight. Suck it!


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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 02 April 2019 21:38

We totally owned Arizona and Minny tonight. Suck it!

Embrace the spoil. Why beat one teams when you can hurt three?



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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 02 April 2019 21:48

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 02 April 2019 21:38

We totally owned Arizona and Minny tonight. Suck it!

Embrace the spoil. Why beat one teams when you can hurt three?


Oh nice, yeah, we helped eliminate Chicago too. Arizona not technically eliminated, but they have to win out and hope Colorado gets no more points.

I think we can take credit for all 3 in the end. Like MacT gets 100% credit for the Condor's season.



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I’m glad the Oilers are now 11 points out. It puts end to this false notion that they’re only 2 or 3 players away from being whatever the Oilers think they might be.


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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 02 April 2019 22:01

I’m glad the Oilers are now 11 points out. It puts end to this false notion that they’re only 2 or 3 players away from being whatever the Oilers think they might be.


So does double digits back of a playoff spot short circuit the narrative that Keith Gretzky really helped this team along and he's earned his spot in the GM's chair?

Or do they basically say the team was going to be eliminated in February if Chiarelli was still there, so he got us a month closer to the playoffs as they anoint him as the chosen one?



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I think we can take credit for all 3 in the end.


Colorado is probably the best of that bunch to go up against the Flames so big win ( loss )



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Decent 1st period. 2nd period on, the sieve factor took over. Hope there's a miracle coming out of camp next year between the pipes because this team isn't overcoming terrible goaltending.


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Holy crap.
Two goalies that can't stop a beach ball. I've never seen a 6'-6"goalie leak so many goals.

Personnel-wise this team is worse than it was last year... regressing.
Malone, Currie, Rattie, Lucic, Chaisson, Rieder, Khaira, Manning, Brodziak, Gambardella, Cave, all AHL speed and skill.

Larsson, Benning, AHL speed

Not looking goo dfor next year.

Goalie was a problem before, looking to be a bigger problem next year after watching that cardboard cutout we have as a goalie lately... one we have for 2 more years at $4.5M




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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 00:40

Holy crap.
Two goalies that can't stop a beach ball. I've never seen a 6'-6"goalie leak so many goals.

Personnel-wise this team is worse than it was last year... regressing.
Malone, Currie, Rattie, Lucic, Chaisson, Rieder, Khaira, Manning, Brodziak, Gambardella, Cave, all AHL speed and skill.

Larsson, Benning, AHL speed

Not looking goo dfor next year.

Goalie was a problem before, looking to be a bigger problem next year after watching that cardboard cutout we have as a goalie lately... one we have for 2 more years at $4.5M



Three years.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 00:00

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 00:40

Holy crap.
Two goalies that can't stop a beach ball. I've never seen a 6'-6"goalie leak so many goals.

Personnel-wise this team is worse than it was last year... regressing.
Malone, Currie, Rattie, Lucic, Chaisson, Rieder, Khaira, Manning, Brodziak, Gambardella, Cave, all AHL speed and skill.

Larsson, Benning, AHL speed

Not looking goo dfor next year.

Goalie was a problem before, looking to be a bigger problem next year after watching that cardboard cutout we have as a goalie lately... one we have for 2 more years at $4.5M



Three years.


I subconsciously thought this year was a burned contract year, three more years talking about goals that should have been stopped... faint



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Colorado (Game #80) [message #734749 is a reply to message #734720 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 07:03

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 00:00

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 00:40

Holy crap.
Two goalies that can't stop a beach ball. I've never seen a 6'-6"goalie leak so many goals.

Personnel-wise this team is worse than it was last year... regressing.
Malone, Currie, Rattie, Lucic, Chaisson, Rieder, Khaira, Manning, Brodziak, Gambardella, Cave, all AHL speed and skill.

Larsson, Benning, AHL speed

Not looking goo dfor next year.

Goalie was a problem before, looking to be a bigger problem next year after watching that cardboard cutout we have as a goalie lately... one we have for 2 more years at $4.5M



Three years.


I subconsciously thought this year was a burned contract year, three more years talking about goals that should have been stopped... faint


Somebody sent me the stat that of the 16 teams currently in a playoff position, 8 of them have two goalies that have played at least 30 games. Meanwhile Koskinen has played 24 of 25.

There's definitely a shift in how goalies are being used and once again the Oilers are way behind the curve (and going in the opposite direction). It shouldn't, but it continues to amaze me how they can be wrong about everything they do.

[Updated on: Wed, 03 April 2019 10:33]


Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19 pace: 234 GF / 274 GA (-40)

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I thought it was a good game, the top forward line was amazing after having a crappy first when the other team got 2 goals up, I was like oh no..

Then in the second, what the heck was said in the dressing room?? Our forward lines came alive and ate their goal tender for lunch and spit him out, then they chased him and got the other guy because I guess he was better! NOPE! Haha THEN.... THEN...the other goal tender came back and changed out his blades on his skate... because OF COURSE it was the blade!! Ah man.. 1.2.3.4.5.6....one after the other filled the net.

Playoffs baby!!

Wait.. this isn't an avs forum? Erm.. /trollofff

It was the blades fault that is causing Koskinen to be so wildly out of position.. the blades!!

Crap team insulating 2 100 point players smothering their efforts of pulling this team to the promised land. We are going to be in trouble for a long time...

But hey.. Lucic scored. I wonder what the goal cost out of his salary.. I could look but like the Oilers I can't be bothered.






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Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.



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He was trying to get Reieder that all important first/last goal by playing him with Leon. Which is more important?
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Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


The scary thing with the Oilers is that they have already indicated that A) Hitch is supposed to stay with the team for the next two years after this and B) that he would like to be the head coach still.

His record is below .500, even with the big start the team gave him. The reliance on the top three went up, not down under Hitchcock. The defence has still looked porous, the PK still sucked. Better powerplay, but that's about it.

If I'm in charge, I'm thanking him for his service, giving him a watch and sending him back in to retirement, content to know that five years from now, McDavid will break up a play with a nice backcheck, and some colour guy on HNIC will give credit to Hitchcock for teaching those fundamentals over these last few months (whether he had anything to do with it or not).



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Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 08:32

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


The scary thing with the Oilers is that they have already indicated that A) Hitch is supposed to stay with the team for the next two years after this and B) that he would like to be the head coach still.

His record is below .500, even with the big start the team gave him. The reliance on the top three went up, not down under Hitchcock. The defence has still looked porous, the PK still sucked. Better powerplay, but that's about it.

If I'm in charge, I'm thanking him for his service, giving him a watch and sending him back in to retirement, content to know that five years from now, McDavid will break up a play with a nice backcheck, and some colour guy on HNIC will give credit to Hitchcock for teaching those fundamentals over these last few months (whether he had anything to do with it or not).


To be fair, an amalgamation of the spirits of Toe Blake, Al Arbor, Fred Shero, together with combined efforts of Scotty Bowman, Mike Babcock, Gerard Gallant, and Barry Trotz couldn't get that team of donkey meat into the playoffs.
We've been through a multitude of coaches, the problem is on. ice. talent., and the evaluation and procurement of.. aka GM and scouting. We only have a few legit NHL'ers, other than our top guys, team speed is a mismatch most nights. Speed should be at the top of the list for future procurement. Oh well... I'm sure our next GM [fill in blank] should fix this train wreck ... Next year guys! :)

I'm actually hoping McD doesn't play in the world championships. Kid needs a break mentally.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:30

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 08:32

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


The scary thing with the Oilers is that they have already indicated that A) Hitch is supposed to stay with the team for the next two years after this and B) that he would like to be the head coach still.

His record is below .500, even with the big start the team gave him. The reliance on the top three went up, not down under Hitchcock. The defence has still looked porous, the PK still sucked. Better powerplay, but that's about it.

If I'm in charge, I'm thanking him for his service, giving him a watch and sending him back in to retirement, content to know that five years from now, McDavid will break up a play with a nice backcheck, and some colour guy on HNIC will give credit to Hitchcock for teaching those fundamentals over these last few months (whether he had anything to do with it or not).


To be fair, an amalgamation of the spirits of Toe Blake, Al Arbor, Fred Shero, together with combined efforts of Scotty Bowman, Mike Babcock, Gerard Gallant, and Barry Trotz couldn't get that team of donkey meat into the playoffs.
We've been through a multitude of coaches, the problem is on. ice. talent., and the evaluation and procurement of.. aka GM and scouting. We only have a few legit NHL'ers, other than our top guys, team speed is a mismatch most nights. Speed should be at the top of the list for future procurement. Oh well... I'm sure our next GM [fill in blank] should fix this train wreck ... Next year guys! :)

I'm actually hoping McD doesn't play in the world championships. Kid needs a break mentally.

Yeah, he needs 6 weeks on a mostly deserted island somewhere in the south Pacific.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


I hear Todd Mclellan might be available. Seriously, I wonder who they will bring in as the head coach for next season.



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overdue wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:37

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


I hear Todd Mclellan might be available. Seriously, I wonder who they will bring in as the head coach for next season.



Considering the candidate has to be drawn out of someone who's had significant Team Canada Olympics experience, I'm thinking Lindy Ruff is the most likely pick. He's been assistant at multiple Olympics, and he's currently just an assistant coach with the Rangers - could there even be a better candidate?



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Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:59

overdue wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:37

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


I hear Todd Mclellan might be available. Seriously, I wonder who they will bring in as the head coach for next season.



Considering the candidate has to be drawn out of someone who's had significant Team Canada Olympics experience, I'm thinking Lindy Ruff is the most likely pick. He's been assistant at multiple Olympics, and he's currently just an assistant coach with the Rangers - could there even be a better candidate?

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overdue wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 08:37

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


I hear Todd Mclellan might be available. Seriously, I wonder who they will bring in as the head coach for next season.




People were talking Quennville .. but there might be a reason he was bumped out of Chicago, pretty old school. Vignault always looked good to me, he usually got blood out a stone with his teams, his players always like him.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:33

overdue wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 08:37

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


I hear Todd Mclellan might be available. Seriously, I wonder who they will bring in as the head coach for next season.




People were talking Quennville .. but there might be a reason he was bumped out of Chicago, pretty old school. Vignault always looked good to me, he usually got blood out a stone with his teams, his players always like him.


I think the Canucks stain has eroded for me, or maybe having Gagner back has refreshed things. But I'd take Vignault in a heart beat.



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I think the Canucks stain has eroded for me, or maybe having Gagner back has refreshed things. But I'd take Vignault in a heart beat.

Quenneville is a winner- Alain got close once.



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nullterm wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 13:13

I think the Canucks stain has eroded for me, or maybe having Gagner back has refreshed things. But I'd take Vignault in a heart beat.

Quenneville is a winner- Alain got close once.

Chiarelli won a cup



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 16:47

nullterm wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 13:13

I think the Canucks stain has eroded for me, or maybe having Gagner back has refreshed things. But I'd take Vignault in a heart beat.

Quenneville is a winner- Alain got close once.

Chiarelli won a cup

He won one Cup, and it's become increasingly clear that he simply inherited most of the pieces of that team when he came in. Quenneville has 3 Cups under his belt, so no one can accuse him of being a fluke winner.



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 19:35

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 18:24

Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 16:47

nullterm wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 13:13

I think the Canucks stain has eroded for me, or maybe having Gagner back has refreshed things. But I'd take Vignault in a heart beat.

Quenneville is a winner- Alain got close once.

Chiarelli won a cup

He won one Cup, and it's become increasingly clear that he simply inherited most of the pieces of that team when he came in. Quenneville has 3 Cups under his belt, so no one can accuse him of being a fluke winner.

Then let’s bring him to Edmonton and see what new and exciting way the Oilers can end a career.



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Then let’s bring him to Edmonton and see what new and exciting way the Oilers can end a career.

Nah, I’m good, just pointing out that Quenneville has accomplished a lot more as a coach than Vigneault. Purge the OBC.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


To me, it screams management trying to justify a horrible signing. They love to double down on bad decisions and try and prove how smart they were or how there is reason for optimism and how they have better reasoning than anyone else.

If Koskinen has a good final stretch, they get to point to that contract and sell optimism. But if he is scratched then it looks bad. Also looks bad when Koskinen gets lit up every night, but that's probably just because he is not very good.

If there ever was proof of the OBC being involved in the Koskinen extension, them playing him like madness at the end of a meaningless season rather than giving Stolarz a bit of a test is definitely proof positive. They try so hard to will bad decisions into good ones.

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


To me, it screams management trying to justify a horrible signing. They love to double down on bad decisions and try and prove how smart they were or how there is reason for optimism and how they have better reasoning than anyone else.

If Koskinen has a good final stretch, they get to point to that contract and sell optimism. But if he is scratched then it looks bad. Also looks bad when Koskinen gets lit up every night, but that's probably just not very good.

If there ever was proof of the OBC being involved in the Koskinen extension, them playing him like madness at the end of a meaningful season rather than giving Stolarz a bit of a test is definitely proof positive. They try so hard to will bad decisions into good ones.


The problem is that it doesn't even help make the decision look good. Playing an exhausted goalie (I think it's something like 29 of the last 30 games he's started now?) is only likely to give him worse results - which makes it look like a worse decision to start him. It was somewhat defend-able while the Oilers were still in a playoff hunt, even if it was a long shot, as you could say he gives you the best chance to win (although again, that makes trading Talbot look stupid if there's no faith at all in Stolarz even against the worst teams in the league), but with the Oilers eliminated, riding him hard to the finish line is just pointless.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:51

mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:37

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


To me, it screams management trying to justify a horrible signing. They love to double down on bad decisions and try and prove how smart they were or how there is reason for optimism and how they have better reasoning than anyone else.

If Koskinen has a good final stretch, they get to point to that contract and sell optimism. But if he is scratched then it looks bad. Also looks bad when Koskinen gets lit up every night, but that's probably just not very good.

If there ever was proof of the OBC being involved in the Koskinen extension, them playing him like madness at the end of a meaningful season rather than giving Stolarz a bit of a test is definitely proof positive. They try so hard to will bad decisions into good ones.


The problem is that it doesn't even help make the decision look good. Playing an exhausted goalie (I think it's something like 29 of the last 30 games he's started now?) is only likely to give him worse results - which makes it look like a worse decision to start him. It was somewhat defend-able while the Oilers were still in a playoff hunt, even if it was a long shot, as you could say he gives you the best chance to win (although again, that makes trading Talbot look stupid if there's no faith at all in Stolarz even against the worst teams in the league), but with the Oilers eliminated, riding him hard to the finish line is just pointless.

When did everyone decide Stolarz was so bad he should never get a sniff of game time? He was a perfectly acceptable replacement level back up in his one start against a far superior team.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:55

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:51

mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:37

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


To me, it screams management trying to justify a horrible signing. They love to double down on bad decisions and try and prove how smart they were or how there is reason for optimism and how they have better reasoning than anyone else.

If Koskinen has a good final stretch, they get to point to that contract and sell optimism. But if he is scratched then it looks bad. Also looks bad when Koskinen gets lit up every night, but that's probably just not very good.

If there ever was proof of the OBC being involved in the Koskinen extension, them playing him like madness at the end of a meaningful season rather than giving Stolarz a bit of a test is definitely proof positive. They try so hard to will bad decisions into good ones.


The problem is that it doesn't even help make the decision look good. Playing an exhausted goalie (I think it's something like 29 of the last 30 games he's started now?) is only likely to give him worse results - which makes it look like a worse decision to start him. It was somewhat defend-able while the Oilers were still in a playoff hunt, even if it was a long shot, as you could say he gives you the best chance to win (although again, that makes trading Talbot look stupid if there's no faith at all in Stolarz even against the worst teams in the league), but with the Oilers eliminated, riding him hard to the finish line is just pointless.

When did everyone decide Stolarz was so bad he should never get a sniff of game time? He was a perfectly acceptable replacement level back up in his one start against a far superior team.


Five appearances with the Oilers, four in relief. 4.00 goals against average and .898 save percentage aren't great.

His numbers with Philly this season aren't a lot better. 3.58 and .901 although in his defence, he's played behind two mediocre teams, and those relief appearances, he's coming in cold behind a demoralized Edmonton team already getting blown out.

Hitchcock certainly doesn't seem to have any faith in him, which isn't a good sign, but you're right. It's pretty hard to know for sure when he doesn't get a sniff.

And the Maple Leafs game saw him save 37 of 40 shots...so maybe he would show something if he actually was given a chance.

Maybe the Oilers just figure since he's never been in the long-term plans, why bother giving him anything...but still, if that just destroys Koskinen's numbers even more (and feeds all those bashing him in the media and on twitter), then maybe they're just shooting themselves in the foot...again.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 11:01

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:55

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:51

mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:37

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


To me, it screams management trying to justify a horrible signing. They love to double down on bad decisions and try and prove how smart they were or how there is reason for optimism and how they have better reasoning than anyone else.

If Koskinen has a good final stretch, they get to point to that contract and sell optimism. But if he is scratched then it looks bad. Also looks bad when Koskinen gets lit up every night, but that's probably just not very good.

If there ever was proof of the OBC being involved in the Koskinen extension, them playing him like madness at the end of a meaningful season rather than giving Stolarz a bit of a test is definitely proof positive. They try so hard to will bad decisions into good ones.


The problem is that it doesn't even help make the decision look good. Playing an exhausted goalie (I think it's something like 29 of the last 30 games he's started now?) is only likely to give him worse results - which makes it look like a worse decision to start him. It was somewhat defend-able while the Oilers were still in a playoff hunt, even if it was a long shot, as you could say he gives you the best chance to win (although again, that makes trading Talbot look stupid if there's no faith at all in Stolarz even against the worst teams in the league), but with the Oilers eliminated, riding him hard to the finish line is just pointless.

When did everyone decide Stolarz was so bad he should never get a sniff of game time? He was a perfectly acceptable replacement level back up in his one start against a far superior team.


Five appearances with the Oilers, four in relief. 4.00 goals against average and .898 save percentage aren't great.

His numbers with Philly this season aren't a lot better. 3.58 and .901 although in his defence, he's played behind two mediocre teams, and those relief appearances, he's coming in cold behind a demoralized Edmonton team already getting blown out.

Hitchcock certainly doesn't seem to have any faith in him, which isn't a good sign, but you're right. It's pretty hard to know for sure when he doesn't get a sniff.

And the Maple Leafs game saw him save 37 of 40 shots...so maybe he would show something if he actually was given a chance.

Maybe the Oilers just figure since he's never been in the long-term plans, why bother giving him anything...but still, if that just destroys Koskinen's numbers even more (and feeds all those bashing him in the media and on twitter), then maybe they're just shooting themselves in the foot...again.

Oh I"m not saying the Oilers should give him 3 case starts showcasing him, but he's not such a downgrade from Koskinen that playing him on the second night of back to backs after elimination is out of the question. He's probably not the future, and that's fine, but he's here now so use him. Like, what did the Oilers tell him when he came here? "Don't unpack and make sure you get your time in at the gym"?



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 11:05

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 11:01

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:55

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:51

mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:37

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


To me, it screams management trying to justify a horrible signing. They love to double down on bad decisions and try and prove how smart they were or how there is reason for optimism and how they have better reasoning than anyone else.

If Koskinen has a good final stretch, they get to point to that contract and sell optimism. But if he is scratched then it looks bad. Also looks bad when Koskinen gets lit up every night, but that's probably just not very good.

If there ever was proof of the OBC being involved in the Koskinen extension, them playing him like madness at the end of a meaningful season rather than giving Stolarz a bit of a test is definitely proof positive. They try so hard to will bad decisions into good ones.


The problem is that it doesn't even help make the decision look good. Playing an exhausted goalie (I think it's something like 29 of the last 30 games he's started now?) is only likely to give him worse results - which makes it look like a worse decision to start him. It was somewhat defend-able while the Oilers were still in a playoff hunt, even if it was a long shot, as you could say he gives you the best chance to win (although again, that makes trading Talbot look stupid if there's no faith at all in Stolarz even against the worst teams in the league), but with the Oilers eliminated, riding him hard to the finish line is just pointless.

When did everyone decide Stolarz was so bad he should never get a sniff of game time? He was a perfectly acceptable replacement level back up in his one start against a far superior team.


Five appearances with the Oilers, four in relief. 4.00 goals against average and .898 save percentage aren't great.

His numbers with Philly this season aren't a lot better. 3.58 and .901 although in his defence, he's played behind two mediocre teams, and those relief appearances, he's coming in cold behind a demoralized Edmonton team already getting blown out.

Hitchcock certainly doesn't seem to have any faith in him, which isn't a good sign, but you're right. It's pretty hard to know for sure when he doesn't get a sniff.

And the Maple Leafs game saw him save 37 of 40 shots...so maybe he would show something if he actually was given a chance.

Maybe the Oilers just figure since he's never been in the long-term plans, why bother giving him anything...but still, if that just destroys Koskinen's numbers even more (and feeds all those bashing him in the media and on twitter), then maybe they're just shooting themselves in the foot...again.

Oh I"m not saying the Oilers should give him 3 case starts showcasing him, but he's not such a downgrade from Koskinen that playing him on the second night of back to backs after elimination is out of the question. He's probably not the future, and that's fine, but he's here now so use him. Like, what did the Oilers tell him when he came here? "Don't unpack and make sure you get your time in at the gym"?


Just the opposite of what they said to Will Acton - "Just stick with the hotel...no need for you to find any other lodging."



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Maybe the Oilers just figure since he's never been in the long-term plans, why bother giving him anything...but still, if that just destroys Koskinen's numbers even more (and feeds all those bashing him in the media and on twitter), then maybe they're just shooting themselves in the foot...again.


It's hard to recall a more meaningless trade than Stolarz for Talbot. That was a trade for activity more than meaning. And the Oilers likely got the worse goalie, though it is hard to tell for sure when neither team will play the guy they traded for.



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Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 11:01

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:55

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:51

mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:37

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


To me, it screams management trying to justify a horrible signing. They love to double down on bad decisions and try and prove how smart they were or how there is reason for optimism and how they have better reasoning than anyone else.

If Koskinen has a good final stretch, they get to point to that contract and sell optimism. But if he is scratched then it looks bad. Also looks bad when Koskinen gets lit up every night, but that's probably just not very good.

If there ever was proof of the OBC being involved in the Koskinen extension, them playing him like madness at the end of a meaningful season rather than giving Stolarz a bit of a test is definitely proof positive. They try so hard to will bad decisions into good ones.


The problem is that it doesn't even help make the decision look good. Playing an exhausted goalie (I think it's something like 29 of the last 30 games he's started now?) is only likely to give him worse results - which makes it look like a worse decision to start him. It was somewhat defend-able while the Oilers were still in a playoff hunt, even if it was a long shot, as you could say he gives you the best chance to win (although again, that makes trading Talbot look stupid if there's no faith at all in Stolarz even against the worst teams in the league), but with the Oilers eliminated, riding him hard to the finish line is just pointless.

When did everyone decide Stolarz was so bad he should never get a sniff of game time? He was a perfectly acceptable replacement level back up in his one start against a far superior team.


Five appearances with the Oilers, four in relief. 4.00 goals against average and .898 save percentage aren't great.

His numbers with Philly this season aren't a lot better. 3.58 and .901 although in his defence, he's played behind two mediocre teams, and those relief appearances, he's coming in cold behind a demoralized Edmonton team already getting blown out.

Hitchcock certainly doesn't seem to have any faith in him, which isn't a good sign, but you're right. It's pretty hard to know for sure when he doesn't get a sniff.

And the Maple Leafs game saw him save 37 of 40 shots...so maybe he would show something if he actually was given a chance.

Maybe the Oilers just figure since he's never been in the long-term plans, why bother giving him anything...but still, if that just destroys Koskinen's numbers even more (and feeds all those bashing him in the media and on twitter), then maybe they're just shooting themselves in the foot...again.

100% fits the Oilers asset management model. If you were giving Talbot away for nothing, why not keep him?



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 21:28

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 11:01

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:55

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:51

mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 10:37

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:27

Adam wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 09:12

Is it true that Hitchcock took Draisaitl off McDavid's wing?!? Really? Three games left, with Leon sitting on 47 goals, and they pull him off and put him with plugs?

No thanks to Hitch coming back as coach. No more dinosaurs behind the bench, please.


I'm pretty convinced that hitch is punishing Koskinen right now, setting him up for failure. No surprise he would punish drai and McDavid for looking a bit off too after the elimination. It's nice that he doesn't bash players much to the media but he is definitely an old school grump away from the microphones.


To me, it screams management trying to justify a horrible signing. They love to double down on bad decisions and try and prove how smart they were or how there is reason for optimism and how they have better reasoning than anyone else.

If Koskinen has a good final stretch, they get to point to that contract and sell optimism. But if he is scratched then it looks bad. Also looks bad when Koskinen gets lit up every night, but that's probably just not very good.

If there ever was proof of the OBC being involved in the Koskinen extension, them playing him like madness at the end of a meaningful season rather than giving Stolarz a bit of a test is definitely proof positive. They try so hard to will bad decisions into good ones.


The problem is that it doesn't even help make the decision look good. Playing an exhausted goalie (I think it's something like 29 of the last 30 games he's started now?) is only likely to give him worse results - which makes it look like a worse decision to start him. It was somewhat defend-able while the Oilers were still in a playoff hunt, even if it was a long shot, as you could say he gives you the best chance to win (although again, that makes trading Talbot look stupid if there's no faith at all in Stolarz even against the worst teams in the league), but with the Oilers eliminated, riding him hard to the finish line is just pointless.

When did everyone decide Stolarz was so bad he should never get a sniff of game time? He was a perfectly acceptable replacement level back up in his one start against a far superior team.


Five appearances with the Oilers, four in relief. 4.00 goals against average and .898 save percentage aren't great.

His numbers with Philly this season aren't a lot better. 3.58 and .901 although in his defence, he's played behind two mediocre teams, and those relief appearances, he's coming in cold behind a demoralized Edmonton team already getting blown out.

Hitchcock certainly doesn't seem to have any faith in him, which isn't a good sign, but you're right. It's pretty hard to know for sure when he doesn't get a sniff.

And the Maple Leafs game saw him save 37 of 40 shots...so maybe he would show something if he actually was given a chance.

Maybe the Oilers just figure since he's never been in the long-term plans, why bother giving him anything...but still, if that just destroys Koskinen's numbers even more (and feeds all those bashing him in the media and on twitter), then maybe they're just shooting themselves in the foot...again.

100% fits the Oilers asset management model. If you were giving Talbot away for nothing, why not keep him?


Didn't we need the cap space to activate Sek? Think that was mainly what that trade was about.

If we didn't get Manning and Petrovic, maybe it's not needed. But...Oilers.



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