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https://oilersnation.com/2019/04/01/breaking-oilers-name-kev in-lowe-as-president-of-hockey-operations/

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After many months of speculation, Bob Nicholson has finally hired a President of Hockey Operations for the Edmonton Oilers, and that person is Kevin Lowe.

Since relieving Peter Chiarelli of his duties at the end of January, the Oilers have gone without a legitimate POHO and General Manager. Keith Gretzky stepped up to be an interim General Manager and has done an admirable job. From Mike Gillis, to Bill Zeto, many names have popped up in the rumour mill about who the next POHO for the Oilers should be. Instead, Bob Nicholson has hired former Edmonton Oiler, Kevin Lowe.

Kevin Lowe was not my first choice to be President of Hockey Operations, but I’m cautiously optimistic of what Lowe has to offer. Here’s what Nicholson had to say about Lowe earlier this morning.

“Kevin knows a thing or two about winning. He’s had success when building a lot of Team Canada’s Olympic teams and has a lot left to give in his career.” – Bob Nicholson April fools!


[Updated on: Mon, 01 April 2019 11:33]


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I hate April 1st.

Although Westjet's Flyre Festival video (and sale) is pretty fun.



This is fine.

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Is there a dumber day than April fools?


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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 11:48

Is there a dumber day than April fools?


Team is a joke. May as well have a chuckle about it :)



"The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 11:31

I hate April 1st.

Although Westjet's Flyre Festival video (and sale) is pretty fun.


I also heard something on the radio this morning about overtime being abolished for AB workers, union or non-union. I didn't hear what party it was attributed to, but assumed it was an April Fools thing.



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K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 12:02

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 11:31

I hate April 1st.

Although Westjet's Flyre Festival video (and sale) is pretty fun.


I also heard something on the radio this morning about overtime being abolished for AB workers, union or non-union. I didn't hear what party it was attributed to, but assumed it was an April Fools thing.


I read in the UCP platform that they plan on changing it so that any overtime that an employees banked be paid at regular time like it used to be rather than 1.5 times like the NDP recently changed it too.

My company took a bit of a hit financially when the NDP changed playing banked time to 1.5 times. We have field staff who we pay out a small portion of their overtime over the year but we encourage them to bank their overtime so when winter happens and there isn't a lot of field work, they get a regular paycheck rather than be potentially laid off. Guys will take time off in the winter using banked time rather than use up their holidays.



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K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 12:02

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 11:31

I hate April 1st.

Although Westjet's Flyre Festival video (and sale) is pretty fun.


I also heard something on the radio this morning about overtime being abolished for AB workers, union or non-union. I didn't hear what party it was attributed to, but assumed it was an April Fools thing.


Definitely not an April fools thing. But hey, we'll save like $20 bucks a month in carbon tax! Sorry, I'll take it to the OT forum.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 11:31

I hate April 1st.

Although Westjet's Flyre Festival video (and sale) is pretty fun.


and how many people fell for it?



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How sad is it that the worst thing that OilersNations could think of to troll their readers was that the Oilers had named a guy that already works for the team as the POHO? This is some franchise, man.


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Goose wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 11:53

How sad is it that the worst thing that OilersNations could think of to troll their readers was that the Oilers had named a guy that already works for the team as the POHO? This is some franchise, man.


lol, a guy already in the org that is, according to Friedman, involved in who is allowed to even interview for the POHO job, disqualifying people because of 12 year old grudges.

Definitely something special going on with this franchise still.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 12:03

Goose wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 11:53

How sad is it that the worst thing that OilersNations could think of to troll their readers was that the Oilers had named a guy that already works for the team as the POHO? This is some franchise, man.


lol, a guy already in the org that is, according to Friedman, involved in who is allowed to even interview for the POHO job, disqualifying people because of 12 year old grudges.

Definitely something special going on with this franchise still.


I didn't see that comment about Lowe by Friedman, anyone have a link?



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bigEfromGP wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 15:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 12:03

Goose wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 11:53

How sad is it that the worst thing that OilersNations could think of to troll their readers was that the Oilers had named a guy that already works for the team as the POHO? This is some franchise, man.


lol, a guy already in the org that is, according to Friedman, involved in who is allowed to even interview for the POHO job, disqualifying people because of 12 year old grudges.

Definitely something special going on with this franchise still.


I didn't see that comment about Lowe by Friedman, anyone have a link?


Was talked about in the GM hiring thread. here is the post with the interview Friedman did:

http://oilfans.com/forum/index.php?t=tree&th=46934&m id=734254&rid=77&SQ=359d8aabf52ebb18be7724daf5c5c5d1 &rev=&reveal=

He didn't actually name names of who wanted to stop Gillis from an interview, but since the reason was a grudge from 2007 (before Katz owned the team), and Gillis was not only MacT's agent when he played, and then hired him for their AHL team later, I think that reduces the grudge holder list to Kevin Lowe :)



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 15:27

bigEfromGP wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 15:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 12:03

Goose wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 11:53

How sad is it that the worst thing that OilersNations could think of to troll their readers was that the Oilers had named a guy that already works for the team as the POHO? This is some franchise, man.


lol, a guy already in the org that is, according to Friedman, involved in who is allowed to even interview for the POHO job, disqualifying people because of 12 year old grudges.

Definitely something special going on with this franchise still.


I didn't see that comment about Lowe by Friedman, anyone have a link?


Was talked about in the GM hiring thread. here is the post with the interview Friedman did:

http://oilfans.com/forum/index.php?t=tree&th=46934&m id=734254&rid=77&SQ=359d8aabf52ebb18be7724daf5c5c5d1 &rev=&reveal=

He didn't actually name names of who wanted to stop Gillis from an interview, but since the reason was a grudge from 2007 (before Katz owned the team), and Gillis was not only MacT's agent when he played, and then hired him for their AHL team later, I think that reduces the grudge holder list to Kevin Lowe :)



add me to the list of people who do not want gillis. He did not build to the canucks. Nonis and Burke did but Gillis tried to take all the credit



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steve.kreys wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 16:08

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 15:27

bigEfromGP wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 15:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 12:03

Goose wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 11:53

How sad is it that the worst thing that OilersNations could think of to troll their readers was that the Oilers had named a guy that already works for the team as the POHO? This is some franchise, man.


lol, a guy already in the org that is, according to Friedman, involved in who is allowed to even interview for the POHO job, disqualifying people because of 12 year old grudges.

Definitely something special going on with this franchise still.


I didn't see that comment about Lowe by Friedman, anyone have a link?


Was talked about in the GM hiring thread. here is the post with the interview Friedman did:

http://oilfans.com/forum/index.php?t=tree&th=46934&m id=734254&rid=77&SQ=359d8aabf52ebb18be7724daf5c5c5d1 &rev=&reveal=

He didn't actually name names of who wanted to stop Gillis from an interview, but since the reason was a grudge from 2007 (before Katz owned the team), and Gillis was not only MacT's agent when he played, and then hired him for their AHL team later, I think that reduces the grudge holder list to Kevin Lowe :)



add me to the list of people who do not want gillis. He did not build to the canucks. Nonis and Burke did but Gillis tried to take all the credit



Not worth even picking his brain though because Lowe is mad about 2007?

He has been working hard on the analytics and sports science fields, looking at other sports around the world. He was actually a pioneer of sports science (using analytics and tracking for conditioning and recovery) in Vancouver before many other teams started doing it (most do now, Oilers probably barely at all because we think it's cool to be old school). I think it's worth a conversation, especially since Nicholson is learning on the job right now and our org is waaaay behind on the curve on basically everything to do with managing a team aside from using gut feel.

[Updated on: Mon, 01 April 2019 16:52]


"The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
-Kevin Lowe, April 2013


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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 16:49


Not worth even picking his brain though because Lowe is mad about 2007?

He has been working hard on the analytics and sports science fields, looking at other sports around the world. He was actually a pioneer of sports science (using analytics and tracking for conditioning and recovery) in Vancouver before many other teams started doing it (most do now, Oilers probably barely at all because we think it's cool to be old school). I think it's worth a conversation, especially since Nicholson is learning on the job right now and our org is waaaay behind on the curve on basically everything to do with managing a team aside from using gut feel.


At bare minimum, it would be nice to have our Team President picking the brain of someone who wasn't a direct competitor for tips on what he should do.

Bob will be probably be wondering why this guy doesn't snicker so much as he gives his responses though...



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Oilers Nation trying to troll with bad news, but all I see is good!

I really wish this was true. This team has provided us all with the wrong kind of entertainment for years and this would be such a wonderful talking point for dozens of threads. Plus, if he actually takes a role in hockey ops, it could mean that maybe it's his last hurrah and once he fails, he'll leave the franchise altogether.

I hate you, April fools. Getting my hopes up like that!




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JPro wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 14:10

Oilers Nation trying to troll with bad news, but all I see is good!

I really wish this was true. This team has provided us all with the wrong kind of entertainment for years and this would be such a wonderful talking point for dozens of threads. Plus, if he actually takes a role in hockey ops, it could mean that maybe it's his last hurrah and once he fails, he'll leave the franchise altogether.

I hate you, April fools. Getting my hopes up like that!




Ha ha ha...does it give you any comfort to know he really has that position anyhow, even if he gave up the title?



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Adam wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 14:32

JPro wrote on Mon, 01 April 2019 14:10

Oilers Nation trying to troll with bad news, but all I see is good!

I really wish this was true. This team has provided us all with the wrong kind of entertainment for years and this would be such a wonderful talking point for dozens of threads. Plus, if he actually takes a role in hockey ops, it could mean that maybe it's his last hurrah and once he fails, he'll leave the franchise altogether.

I hate you, April fools. Getting my hopes up like that!




Ha ha ha...does it give you any comfort to know he really has that position anyhow, even if he gave up the title?

The problem is that you can't be fired from a position you don't officially have!



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can not believe people fell for it


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steve.kreys wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 13:32

can not believe people fell for it

Haven't been an Oilers fan for very long, have you? If you were, you'd have known that the level of incompetence that their management team has shown makes this notion actually plausible.



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 15:44


Haven't been an Oilers fan for very long, have you? If you were, you'd have known that the level of incompetence that their management team has shown makes this notion actually plausible.


Would it even be surprising to anyone if they did this? My default assumption is that they're going to make the worst possible decision.



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Goose wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 17:31

Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 15:44


Haven't been an Oilers fan for very long, have you? If you were, you'd have known that the level of incompetence that their management team has shown makes this notion actually plausible.


Would it even be surprising to anyone if they did this? My default assumption is that they're going to make the worst possible decision.


It would surprise me only from the perspective that I don't see Lowe stepping back in to the firing line. I think they prefer the current set-up where they get to have all kinds of input, but can fire someone else if the heat gets too great. Putting MacT or Lowe in to one of those roles just means that it's a lot harder to release the pressure on them. Right now, they feel bullet proof.



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Goose wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 17:31

Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2019 15:44


Haven't been an Oilers fan for very long, have you? If you were, you'd have known that the level of incompetence that their management team has shown makes this notion actually plausible.


Would it even be surprising to anyone if they did this? My default assumption is that they're going to make the worst possible decision.


Having no GM is the happiest I've been about that position in years. Sincerely .



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