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Must win! Playoff push! Optimism abound!


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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 07:46

Must win! Playoff push! Optimism abound!

I'm not feeling it.



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Must needed win. Prediction. Lucic scores another goal and Rieder scores his first. icon_eek


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feepa wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 07:52

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 07:46

Must win! Playoff push! Optimism abound!

I'm not feeling it.

Two points out of the playoffs, Colorado and Anaheim have fallen off of cliffs, every team who isn't in the top five in the west isn't good at hockey. Those are good odds. Optimism!



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The best we can hope for is a fluky playoff run. So here's hoping!


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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 07:46

Must win! Playoff push! Optimism abound!


this is one of those teams that you should probably beat if you're a playoff team - even a crummy bubble team. Is Petterson still out too?




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Local radio in Van is saying there's a chance he plays. You just know he'll light us up too, it's the Vancouver way.

The radio guys were also yapping about how the Canucks routinely shut down McDavid, even though on paper he still has 18 pts in 15 games against them. Their "shutting down" is like everyone else's: water skiing off of him and getting the benefit of the doubt from the refs.

Hope Koskinen can show up on the road for once. If Pettersson is not playing, there is no excuse to lose this game... the only mandate in that case should be to avoid the penalty box.

Lucic or Kassian should go right after Roussel to discourage any shenanigans.



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The Canucks have been able to "shut down" McDavid by employing the time tested water skiing or tackling defensive structure that the refs seem cool to allow.

I don't really remember a game against the Canucks where Lucic looked overly good. It would be a great time for him to have a real good game, impose his will and maybe pop a goal.

[Updated on: Wed, 16 January 2019 10:01]


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Dr. Oil wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 09:56

Local radio in Van is saying there's a chance he plays. You just know he'll light us up too, it's the Vancouver way.

The radio guys were also yapping about how the Canucks routinely shut down McDavid, even though on paper he still has 18 pts in 15 games against them. Their "shutting down" is like everyone else's: water skiing off of him and getting the benefit of the doubt from the refs.

Hope Koskinen can show up on the road for once. If Pettersson is not playing, there is no excuse to lose this game... the only mandate in that case should be to avoid the penalty box.

Lucic or Kassian should go right after Roussel to discourage any shenanigans.


I like Stauffer's idea he keeps saying on his radio show, get these guys to go after their star guys. Every other team does it to McDavid, the Oilers should play the same game.

Like that game in Calgary earlier this season where Tkachuk and even that idiot Backlund were taking clear shots at McDavid. Retaliate on Gaudreau, what's the point going after Tkachuk who won't fight. McDavid could handle his own, Johnny is a little puke. Why am I so angry right now.

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Lost to these bums twice arleady, geez. Get it together. If this team is ever gonna manage to play more than 1 OK game in a row, it better be tonight.


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Then came game 47... the must win of all must wins to this point. Some may say the mustiest win... get it however you need to, even if it’s a dirty, greasy win leaving a musty smell afterwords. No matter how you put it... MUST WIN!




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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #47) [message #727677 is a reply to message #727649 ]
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Jack Michaels on the twitter states Pettersson is NOT playing tonight. Koskinen v Markstrom between the pipes.

[Updated on: Wed, 16 January 2019 12:18]


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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #47) [message #727679 is a reply to message #727677 ]
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Petterson not playing helps. The Oilers need to come out hard and not let the Canucks out work them. They pissed away a game against the Coyotes. If they are serious about making the playoffs, this is a game they have to have. A regulation win.

[Updated on: Wed, 16 January 2019 12:29]


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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 13:27

Petterson not playing helps. The Oilers need to come out hard and not let the Canucks out work them. They pissed away a game against the Coyotes. If they are serious about making the playoffs, this is a game they have to have. A regulation win.

Regulation win the key.



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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 12:43

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 13:27

Petterson not playing helps. The Oilers need to come out hard and not let the Canucks out work them. They pissed away a game against the Coyotes. If they are serious about making the playoffs, this is a game they have to have. A regulation win.

Regulation win the key.

If given the choice between no win and an overtime win, I take overtime win. Getting two points in more games than you don't get two points solves a lot of problems.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 14:05

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 12:43

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 13:27

Petterson not playing helps. The Oilers need to come out hard and not let the Canucks out work them. They pissed away a game against the Coyotes. If they are serious about making the playoffs, this is a game they have to have. A regulation win.

Regulation win the key.

If given the choice between no win and an overtime win, I take overtime win. Getting two points in more games than you don't get two points solves a lot of problems.


True. Though ROW comes in as the tiebreaker amongst a glut of teams fighting for the 2 wildcard spots.



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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 13:31

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 14:05

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 12:43

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 13:27

Petterson not playing helps. The Oilers need to come out hard and not let the Canucks out work them. They pissed away a game against the Coyotes. If they are serious about making the playoffs, this is a game they have to have. A regulation win.

Regulation win the key.

If given the choice between no win and an overtime win, I take overtime win. Getting two points in more games than you don't get two points solves a lot of problems.


True. Though ROW comes in as the tiebreaker amongst a glut of teams fighting for the 2 wildcard spots.

Sure sure. It might be helpful, but with this team they should focus on getting to the tiebreakers first while they still control their own destiny.



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Jack Michaels again;

Yamamoto will play tonight, with RNH and Lucic. Petrovic not ready.



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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 13:27

Jack Michaels again;

Yamamoto will play tonight, with RNH and Lucic. Petrovic not ready.


How many games was it that Yammamoto could play this year at the NHL and have still have his ELC slide to next year? Nine, I believe? Well if that's the case he's already passed that. So stupid to burn a year of his ELC for what about 25 games he might play and not really producing. It's not like we couldn't use a guy who chip 3 years down the road on a value contract. Plus couldn't this affect requirments for the expansion draft?



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Gator21 wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 14:35

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 13:27

Jack Michaels again;

Yamamoto will play tonight, with RNH and Lucic. Petrovic not ready.


How many games was it that Yammamoto could play this year at the NHL and have still have his ELC slide to next year? Nine, I believe? Well if that's the case he's already passed that. So stupid to burn a year of his ELC for what about 25 games he might play and not really producing. It's not like we couldn't use a guy who chip 3 years down the road on a value contract. Plus couldn't this affect requirments for the expansion draft?


If you're engaged in some sort of long term planning, I'll see you to the door good sir. The goal is playoffs this year and this year only. Good day.


Especially since Yamamoto is lighting it up offensively. How can you not keep <checks stats> 13 games, 1 goal, and 1 assist in the line up? What the hell, Oilers?



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Gator21 wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 13:35

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 13:27

Jack Michaels again;

Yamamoto will play tonight, with RNH and Lucic. Petrovic not ready.


How many games was it that Yammamoto could play this year at the NHL and have still have his ELC slide to next year? Nine, I believe? Well if that's the case he's already passed that. So stupid to burn a year of his ELC for what about 25 games he might play and not really producing. It's not like we couldn't use a guy who chip 3 years down the road on a value contract. Plus couldn't this affect requirments for the expansion draft?



I think because Yamamoto is now a pro and too old for junior, this year is burned off the ELC no matter what the Oilers did. I was surprised he was AHL eligible in his draft+2 season. We don't normally see that, but he turned 20 on Sept. 29th last year.

Edit: This is incorrect.

https://oilersnation.com/2018/07/16/kailer-yamamoto-and-the- nhl-contract-slide-rule/

Since Yamamoto has played 10 NHL games we have burned a year off of the ELC. AHL games don't matter. Brutal asset management again by a team that needs high end players on cheap deals.

[Updated on: Wed, 16 January 2019 15:07]


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So tonight's Oiler lineup looks something like this:

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/morning-skate-report-oilers- at-canucks/c-303921006?tid=282301100

"Lineups will be made apparent at warmups but here is what they could potentially look like:

Draisaitl - McDavid - Chiasson
Lucic - Nugent-Hopkins - Yamamoto
Khaira - Cave - Puljujarvi
Rieder - Brodziak - Kassian

Nurse - Russell
Jones - Larsson
Manning - Benning

Koskinen"

According to Cap Friendly, Petrovic has been placed on IR





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GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 16:19

So tonight's Oiler lineup looks something like this:

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/morning-skate-report-oilers- at-canucks/c-303921006?tid=282301100

"Lineups will be made apparent at warmups but here is what they could potentially look like:

Draisaitl - McDavid - Chiasson
Lucic - Nugent-Hopkins - Yamamoto
Khaira - Cave - Puljujarvi
Rieder - Brodziak - Kassian

Nurse - Russell
Jones - Larsson
Manning - Benning

Koskinen"

According to Cap Friendly, Petrovic has been placed on IR


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GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 16:19

So tonight's Oiler lineup looks something like this:

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/morning-skate-report-oilers- at-canucks/c-303921006?tid=282301100

"Lineups will be made apparent at warmups but here is what they could potentially look like:

Draisaitl - McDavid - Chiasson
Lucic - Nugent-Hopkins - Yamamoto
Khaira - Cave - Puljujarvi
Rieder - Brodziak - Kassian

Nurse - Russell
Jones - Larsson
Manning - Benning

Koskinen"

According to Cap Friendly, Petrovic has been placed on IR




It's interesting how much opportunity Yams has got, under McLellan and Hitch. He looked OK his rookie year, got chances but no luck. This year, pretty invisible in almost every game he's played, but the top 6 chances just keep on coming. His AHL time was not great either. weak 5v5 production, a bit better on the PP. He really should be down there for another year or 2.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 17:54

GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 16:19

So tonight's Oiler lineup looks something like this:

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/morning-skate-report-oilers- at-canucks/c-303921006?tid=282301100

"Lineups will be made apparent at warmups but here is what they could potentially look like:

Draisaitl - McDavid - Chiasson
Lucic - Nugent-Hopkins - Yamamoto
Khaira - Cave - Puljujarvi
Rieder - Brodziak - Kassian

Nurse - Russell
Jones - Larsson
Manning - Benning

Koskinen"

According to Cap Friendly, Petrovic has been placed on IR




It's interesting how much opportunity Yams has got, under McLellan and Hitch. He looked OK his rookie year, got chances but no luck. This year, pretty invisible in almost every game he's played, but the top 6 chances just keep on coming. His AHL time was not great either. weak 5v5 production, a bit better on the PP. He really should be down there for another year or 2.


Completely agree he should be playing in the A. Unless, of course, the ‘young developing forward’ that was mentioned refers to Yams and not JP so they want to ‘showcase’ Yams?



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The question is, does Sportnet pony up for two announce crews, or do we have to listen to somewhat competent John Shorthouse and wildly homeriffic John Garrett?


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NetBOG wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 18:13

The question is, does Sportnet pony up for two announce crews, or do we have to listen to somewhat competent John Shorthouse and wildly homeriffic John Garrett?

Oh man, a very valid concern. I’d venture a guess we get the ‘Nucks crew tonight.



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Wow that bonk on the head is taking a little longer to heal.

hmm



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I'm of the mindset that both Yamamoto and Puljujarvi should be in the AHL right now.

Cave probably is more 4C than 3C.

But I guess somebody has to play.

Anyways, I don't think Yamamoto or Puljujarvi are brining more than Spooner or Rattie, and so you really have to ask what is best for their development. I tend to think Bakersfield probably is.



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mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 16 January 2019 18:18

I'm of the mindset that both Yamamoto and Puljujarvi should be in the AHL right now.

Cave probably is more 4C than 3C.

But I guess somebody has to play.

Anyways, I don't think Yamamoto or Puljujarvi are brining more than Spooner or Rattie, and so you really have to ask what is best for their development. I tend to think Bakersfield probably is.


I think Pulju is at least playing a reliable defensive game. He's getting good at poking pucks away and cutting off passes. For sure though, the offensive side is not really happening. Opportunity it too sparse. Hitch is actually starting him in the defensive zone a lot. I think the majority of his games he is getting more defensive than offensive zone starts. He went on a run of multiple games in a row with next to 0% offensive zone starts. Not ideal if you're trying to build the kids offensive game up, but I think Hitch may be focusing on just making him reliable enough that he can stay permanently in the lineup.

Yams is kinda lost in all 3 zones IMO, similar to Spooner. Rattie probably brings more than the other 3.



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That right there was top notch pregame Gene.


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