This day on January 19
None

Happy Birthday To: polarbear, Mr_Huynh, ronster, Da_Real_Huynh, ProngerFTW, harveyfan, Unihockeypolska, Backstop69, Dextreme, bogz

F.A.Q. Terms of Use F.A.Q. F.A.Q.
Members Members   Search Search     Register Register   Login Login   Home Home
 Oilers » GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43)Pages (2): [1  2  >  »]
Switch to flat viewSwitch to tree viewCreate a new topicSubmit Reply
 GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726824]
Tue, 08 January 2019 20:35 Go to next message
OilFans  is currently offline OilFans
Messages: 2864
Registered: February 2006
Location: Edmonton

2 Cups

2
7
Final


Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726826 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
g2k  is currently offline g2k
Messages: 6861
Registered: January 2003
Location: SPCA

6 Cups

Broadcast crew saying Talbot tore a strip off the team in the room after the warm up Sunday night. Apparently he wasn’t happy with how they where preparing.

Cool. Some extra leadership I was unaware of..



Limecat Logic

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726827 is a reply to message #726826 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oscargasm  is currently offline Oscargasm
Messages: 1599
Registered: May 2009
Location: Saskatoon

1 Cup

g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:38

Broadcast crew saying Talbot tore a strip off the team in the room after the warm up Sunday night. Apparently he wasn’t happy with how they where preparing.

Cool. Some extra leadership I was unaware of..


Followed by the performance he put in... *clap clap*. Welcome, to the Wiserhood



2016: We need to get heavier, and we need a defenseman!

2018: We need to get faster, and we need a defenseman!

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726828 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 20:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
g2k  is currently offline g2k
Messages: 6861
Registered: January 2003
Location: SPCA

6 Cups

Fantastic defenseman, but I think Karlsson looks like a douche..

I keep expecting him to perform a magical act. Pull a rabbit from his helmet. Pull a coin from behind the referees ear.

[Updated on: Tue, 08 January 2019 20:44]


Limecat Logic

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726829 is a reply to message #726828 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oscargasm  is currently offline Oscargasm
Messages: 1599
Registered: May 2009
Location: Saskatoon

1 Cup

g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:41

Fantastic defenseman, but I think Karlsson looks like a douche..

I keep expecting him to perform a magical act. Pull a rabbit from his helmet. Pull a coin from behind the referees ear.


Lol.

Think he just did some Harry Potter crap to get that puck to bounce of Jones...



2016: We need to get heavier, and we need a defenseman!

2018: We need to get faster, and we need a defenseman!

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726831 is a reply to message #726829 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
g2k  is currently offline g2k
Messages: 6861
Registered: January 2003
Location: SPCA

6 Cups

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:47

g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:41

Fantastic defenseman, but I think Karlsson looks like a douche..

I keep expecting him to perform a magical act. Pull a rabbit from his helmet. Pull a coin from behind the referees ear.


Lol.

Think he just did some Harry Potter crap to get that puck to bounce of Jones...

Rattle, then Jones.

Double bank shot. Jeeeez

Thought he had a lion to tame or something...



Limecat Logic

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726833 is a reply to message #726831 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
g2k  is currently offline g2k
Messages: 6861
Registered: January 2003
Location: SPCA

6 Cups

g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:51

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:47

g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:41

Fantastic defenseman, but I think Karlsson looks like a douche..

I keep expecting him to perform a magical act. Pull a rabbit from his helmet. Pull a coin from behind the referees ear.


Lol.

Think he just did some Harry Potter crap to get that puck to bounce of Jones...

Rattle, then Jones.

Double bank shot. Jeeeez

Thought he had a lion to tame or something...

Shameful edit.

It was Kane that shot it. I’ve stopped paying close attention to these games lately. That time of the season.



Limecat Logic

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726830 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
overdue  is currently offline overdue
Messages: 430
Registered: October 2014
Location: Creston

No Cups

They own us so far, almost half a period.


Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726832 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WhoreableGuy  is currently offline WhoreableGuy
Messages: 1321
Registered: August 2006
Location: Calgary

1 Cup

Let’s see if they sulk or fight back. Tired of that whole “sulking” excuse, you’d think professional athletes who have made it that far in life don’t have that in their system, but everyone is human I guess.


"Bah Gawd! Would somebody stop the damn draft!"

- Jim Ross calling the NHL Draft Lotto 2015 as the Oilers win

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726835 is a reply to message #726832 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Magnum  is currently offline Magnum
Messages: 2591
Registered: June 2009
Location: Rogers' Arena > Banff

2 Cups

IMO the Edmonton Oilers must be exhaustive in their efforts to improve scoring depth up front and should be prepared to move their 2019 #1 if neccessary to acquire a legit top 6 FWD...with term...

Bob Stauffer Twitter

So... basically, the Oilers have used their projection piece to tell the world that their 1st is in play.



2015/2016 - This Kool-Aid tastes like McDavid flavoured Drain-O.
2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726838 is a reply to message #726835 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
g2k  is currently offline g2k
Messages: 6861
Registered: January 2003
Location: SPCA

6 Cups

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:04

IMO the Edmonton Oilers must be exhaustive in their efforts to improve scoring depth up front and should be prepared to move their 2019 #1 if neccessary to acquire a legit top 6 FWD...with term...

Bob Stauffer Twitter

So... basically, the Oilers have used their projection piece to tell the world that their 1st is in play.

Nailed it Magnum.

Softening the beaches...



Limecat Logic

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726839 is a reply to message #726835 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oscargasm  is currently offline Oscargasm
Messages: 1599
Registered: May 2009
Location: Saskatoon

1 Cup

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:04

IMO the Edmonton Oilers must be exhaustive in their efforts to improve scoring depth up front and should be prepared to move their 2019 #1 if neccessary to acquire a legit top 6 FWD...with term...

Bob Stauffer Twitter

So... basically, the Oilers have used their projection piece to tell the world that their 1st is in play.


Their projection piece?

Edit: sorry, read your post as BS saying the projection piece part. My bad. He IS the piece icon_wink



2016: We need to get heavier, and we need a defenseman!

2018: We need to get faster, and we need a defenseman!

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726842 is a reply to message #726835 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
g2k  is currently offline g2k
Messages: 6861
Registered: January 2003
Location: SPCA

6 Cups

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:04

IMO the Edmonton Oilers must be exhaustive in their efforts to improve scoring depth up front and should be prepared to move their 2019 #1 if neccessary to acquire a legit top 6 FWD...with term...

Bob Stauffer Twitter

So... basically, the Oilers have used their projection piece to tell the world that their 1st is in play.

Hopefully they don’t let the jackass do anything.

Likely to pull another Reinhart deal. He’s still got it in him obviously. Fresh off that dumbass Manning deal.



Limecat Logic

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726850 is a reply to message #726842 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adam  is currently offline Adam
Messages: 9782
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB

6 Cups

g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:09

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:04

IMO the Edmonton Oilers must be exhaustive in their efforts to improve scoring depth up front and should be prepared to move their 2019 #1 if neccessary to acquire a legit top 6 FWD...with term...

Bob Stauffer Twitter

So... basically, the Oilers have used their projection piece to tell the world that their 1st is in play.

Hopefully they don’t let the jackass do anything.

Likely to pull another Reinhart deal. He’s still got it in him obviously. Fresh off that dumbass Manning deal.


I'm still not sure how we manage a legit top 6 forward with term under the cap? Chia has spent our cap space like a drunken sailor on leave. Not only do we have next to nothing available this year, but next year is already tight too.

We've added $3.1MM for Spooner and 2.25MM for Manning to next year's cap (yes, I know we had Strome too - but we still have to replace the player, since Spooner can't crack the lineup). The only UFAs of note are Chiasson and the goalies and they're going to need a couple netminders, even if these aren't the two. Rieder is our most expensive RFA at $2MM. Basically, every big ticket player is still under contract for next year. $68MM committed already to next year with the goalie and the top right wing to resign or replace.

Not to mention, if we have a big trade to make including an important valuable piece like the first round pick, I would prefer we have someone else making the trade. We know what we'd get with Chiarelli - someone who was a high draft pick four or five years ago who's disappointed since then. Possibly with one anomaly season where they put up points with an exceptionally high one-time PDO or personal shooting percentage. Likely someone with some size and a bit of "sandpaper" to their game.



"This team needs an enema!"
#FireLowe #FireMacT #FireHowson #FireBuchberger #FireHowsonAgain #FireChiarelli #FireMcLellan #FireBobbyNicks

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726854 is a reply to message #726850 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oscargasm  is currently offline Oscargasm
Messages: 1599
Registered: May 2009
Location: Saskatoon

1 Cup

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:27


Not to mention, if we have a big trade to make including an important valuable piece like the first round pick, I would prefer we have someone else making the trade. We know what we'd get with Chiarelli - someone who was a high draft pick four or five years ago who's disappointed since then. Possibly with one anomaly season where they put up points with an exceptionally high one-time PDO or personal shooting percentage. Likely someone with some size and a bit of "sandpaper" to their game.


Barkov? No... too consistent AND Florida’s Captain.

Ooooh... Galchenyuk! Sending the first to Arizona will be spun in a way by Bob saying that they move to the Central when Seattle comes in.



2016: We need to get heavier, and we need a defenseman!

2018: We need to get faster, and we need a defenseman!

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726857 is a reply to message #726854 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adam  is currently offline Adam
Messages: 9782
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB

6 Cups

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:36

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:27


Not to mention, if we have a big trade to make including an important valuable piece like the first round pick, I would prefer we have someone else making the trade. We know what we'd get with Chiarelli - someone who was a high draft pick four or five years ago who's disappointed since then. Possibly with one anomaly season where they put up points with an exceptionally high one-time PDO or personal shooting percentage. Likely someone with some size and a bit of "sandpaper" to their game.


Barkov? No... too consistent AND Florida’s Captain.

Ooooh... Galchenyuk! Sending the first to Arizona will be spun in a way by Bob saying that they move to the Central when Seattle comes in.


I was thinking Lawson Crouse...



"This team needs an enema!"
#FireLowe #FireMacT #FireHowson #FireBuchberger #FireHowsonAgain #FireChiarelli #FireMcLellan #FireBobbyNicks

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726859 is a reply to message #726857 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oscargasm  is currently offline Oscargasm
Messages: 1599
Registered: May 2009
Location: Saskatoon

1 Cup

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:41

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:36

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:27


Not to mention, if we have a big trade to make including an important valuable piece like the first round pick, I would prefer we have someone else making the trade. We know what we'd get with Chiarelli - someone who was a high draft pick four or five years ago who's disappointed since then. Possibly with one anomaly season where they put up points with an exceptionally high one-time PDO or personal shooting percentage. Likely someone with some size and a bit of "sandpaper" to their game.


Barkov? No... too consistent AND Florida’s Captain.

Ooooh... Galchenyuk! Sending the first to Arizona will be spun in a way by Bob saying that they move to the Central when Seattle comes in.


I was thinking Lawson Crouse...

Eh, he was an 11th or 12th(?) overall pick or soemthing like that. Too low to sell hope.



2016: We need to get heavier, and we need a defenseman!

2018: We need to get faster, and we need a defenseman!

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726884 is a reply to message #726859 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrudeRemarks  is currently offline CrudeRemarks
Messages: 413
Registered: November 2010
Location: Edmonton

No Cups

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:43

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:41

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:36

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:27


Not to mention, if we have a big trade to make including an important valuable piece like the first round pick, I would prefer we have someone else making the trade. We know what we'd get with Chiarelli - someone who was a high draft pick four or five years ago who's disappointed since then. Possibly with one anomaly season where they put up points with an exceptionally high one-time PDO or personal shooting percentage. Likely someone with some size and a bit of "sandpaper" to their game.


Barkov? No... too consistent AND Florida’s Captain.

Ooooh... Galchenyuk! Sending the first to Arizona will be spun in a way by Bob saying that they move to the Central when Seattle comes in.


I was thinking Lawson Crouse...

Eh, he was an 11th or 12th(?) overall pick or soemthing like that. Too low to sell hope.

I’ve told you guys before, the guy Chia has his eye on is Dal colle from the NYI...



You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.


Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726843 is a reply to message #726835 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oscargasm  is currently offline Oscargasm
Messages: 1599
Registered: May 2009
Location: Saskatoon

1 Cup

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:04

IMO the Edmonton Oilers must be exhaustive in their efforts to improve scoring depth up front and should be prepared to move their 2019 #1 if neccessary to acquire a legit top 6 FWD...with term...

Bob Stauffer Twitter

So... basically, the Oilers have used their projection piece to tell the world that their 1st is in play.


So Lucic and the 1st for Hall?

So you’re telling me there’s a chance... lol Wave Towel



2016: We need to get heavier, and we need a defenseman!

2018: We need to get faster, and we need a defenseman!

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726898 is a reply to message #726835 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Goose  is currently offline Goose
Messages: 1845
Registered: October 2006
Location: Vancouver

1 Cup

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:04

IMO the Edmonton Oilers must be exhaustive in their efforts to improve scoring depth up front and should be prepared to move their 2019 #1 if neccessary to acquire a legit top 6 FWD...with term...

Bob Stauffer Twitter

So... basically, the Oilers have used their projection piece to tell the world that their 1st is in play.


The way this season is going that 1st could easily be a top 5 pick. If they trade it for anyone older than 23 it's a mistake. This team isnt one or two pieces away. They need to be looking at 3 years from now, at a minimum, as their window.



Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19 pace: 237 GF / 258 GA (-21)

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726899 is a reply to message #726898 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kr55  is currently offline Kr55
Messages: 11470
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton

6 Cups

Goose wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:10

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:04

IMO the Edmonton Oilers must be exhaustive in their efforts to improve scoring depth up front and should be prepared to move their 2019 #1 if neccessary to acquire a legit top 6 FWD...with term...

Bob Stauffer Twitter

So... basically, the Oilers have used their projection piece to tell the world that their 1st is in play.


The way this season is going that 1st could easily be a top 5 pick. If they trade it for anyone older than 23 it's a mistake. This team isnt one or two pieces away. They need to be looking at 3 years from now, at a minimum, as their window.


New 5 year plan?

Get all the 5'9/10 skill wingers we can get our hands on and trade away all these C's like Nuge and Drai to get them.

Still keep stocking up on overpaid 6/7 stay home D's though. Those never go out of style.



"The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
-Kevin Lowe, April 2013


"Next year (15/16) I would forecast as another developmental year"
- #2, April 2015

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726900 is a reply to message #726898 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adam  is currently offline Adam
Messages: 9782
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB

6 Cups

Goose wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:10

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:04

IMO the Edmonton Oilers must be exhaustive in their efforts to improve scoring depth up front and should be prepared to move their 2019 #1 if neccessary to acquire a legit top 6 FWD...with term...

Bob Stauffer Twitter

So... basically, the Oilers have used their projection piece to tell the world that their 1st is in play.


The way this season is going that 1st could easily be a top 5 pick. If they trade it for anyone older than 23 it's a mistake. This team isnt one or two pieces away. They need to be looking at 3 years from now, at a minimum, as their window.


That's a full reset if that's the case. With the top end that this team has, if it had competent management, they could be a contender quicker. Would need to work to clean up the cap management issues, but you can always sell problems or fake career-ending ailments...



"This team needs an enema!"
#FireLowe #FireMacT #FireHowson #FireBuchberger #FireHowsonAgain #FireChiarelli #FireMcLellan #FireBobbyNicks

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726901 is a reply to message #726900 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kr55  is currently offline Kr55
Messages: 11470
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton

6 Cups

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:19

Goose wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:10

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:04

IMO the Edmonton Oilers must be exhaustive in their efforts to improve scoring depth up front and should be prepared to move their 2019 #1 if neccessary to acquire a legit top 6 FWD...with term...

Bob Stauffer Twitter

So... basically, the Oilers have used their projection piece to tell the world that their 1st is in play.


The way this season is going that 1st could easily be a top 5 pick. If they trade it for anyone older than 23 it's a mistake. This team isnt one or two pieces away. They need to be looking at 3 years from now, at a minimum, as their window.


That's a full reset if that's the case. With the top end that this team has, if it had competent management, they could be a contender quicker. Would need to work to clean up the cap management issues, but you can always sell problems or fake career-ending ailments...


I don't think any management group is turning this team around in less than 3 years now. There is nothing left to trade. There is no cap space to do anything with. Chia added Spooner and Manning to screw over whoever his replacement is next year (intentional?).

There are no reliable puck movers on this team except for Klef, that's it. Need 2 more fully hitting their stride in the NHL at least. Maybe some are here in development, but they are still 2-3 years away from being guys that can do a fully season at a high level. Got no wingers too obviously. Might not have any goalie this summer either.

Just too many moves needed, too much cap increases needed and too much asset value that needs to be built back up via the draft. Gonna take years. And the longer we wait, the more damage the OBC and Chia can do to make it take longer.



"The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
-Kevin Lowe, April 2013


"Next year (15/16) I would forecast as another developmental year"
- #2, April 2015

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726905 is a reply to message #726901 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 23:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Goose  is currently offline Goose
Messages: 1845
Registered: October 2006
Location: Vancouver

1 Cup

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:23



I don't think any management group is turning this team around in less than 3 years now. There is nothing left to trade. There is no cap space to do anything with. Chia added Spooner and Manning to screw over whoever his replacement is next year (intentional?).

There are no reliable puck movers on this team except for Klef, that's it. Need 2 more fully hitting their stride in the NHL at least. Maybe some are here in development, but they are still 2-3 years away from being guys that can do a fully season at a high level. Got no wingers too obviously. Might not have any goalie this summer either.

Just too many moves needed, too much cap increases needed and too much asset value that needs to be built back up via the draft. Gonna take years. And the longer we wait, the more damage the OBC and Chia can do to make it take longer.


Ya, I think this pretty much covers it for me. I do think that a competent management team could do something with the forward group in less than 3 years, but the lack of cap flexibility makes that trickier.

But it's the defence and goaltending that worry me the most. Klefbom is great, but you can pretty much count on him to miss 15-20 games a season. Larsson is not nearly as effective and imo isn't a top pair defenceman when paired with pretty much anyone else. Nurse is looking like he'll top out as a decent top 4 but I dont think he's driving that pairing, and still makes a lot of questionable plays in his own end. Sekera is a giant question mark. Russell is playing 2-3 spots above his ability. And if the plan is that Jones and Bouchard are going to ride in and save the day in the next couple of years, then this team is doomed.



Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19 pace: 237 GF / 258 GA (-21)

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726906 is a reply to message #726905 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adam  is currently offline Adam
Messages: 9782
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB

6 Cups

Goose wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:42

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:23



I don't think any management group is turning this team around in less than 3 years now. There is nothing left to trade. There is no cap space to do anything with. Chia added Spooner and Manning to screw over whoever his replacement is next year (intentional?).

There are no reliable puck movers on this team except for Klef, that's it. Need 2 more fully hitting their stride in the NHL at least. Maybe some are here in development, but they are still 2-3 years away from being guys that can do a fully season at a high level. Got no wingers too obviously. Might not have any goalie this summer either.

Just too many moves needed, too much cap increases needed and too much asset value that needs to be built back up via the draft. Gonna take years. And the longer we wait, the more damage the OBC and Chia can do to make it take longer.


Ya, I think this pretty much covers it for me. I do think that a competent management team could do something with the forward group in less than 3 years, but the lack of cap flexibility makes that trickier.

But it's the defence and goaltending that worry me the most. Klefbom is great, but you can pretty much count on him to miss 15-20 games a season. Larsson is not nearly as effective and imo isn't a top pair defenceman when paired with pretty much anyone else. Nurse is looking like he'll top out as a decent top 4 but I dont think he's driving that pairing, and still makes a lot of questionable plays in his own end. Sekera is a giant question mark. Russell is playing 2-3 spots above his ability. And if the plan is that Jones and Bouchard are going to ride in and save the day in the next couple of years, then this team is doomed.


I think this deserves it's own thread. I'll try to write something.



"This team needs an enema!"
#FireLowe #FireMacT #FireHowson #FireBuchberger #FireHowsonAgain #FireChiarelli #FireMcLellan #FireBobbyNicks

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726914 is a reply to message #726906 ]
Wed, 09 January 2019 05:10 Go to previous message
Oscargasm  is currently offline Oscargasm
Messages: 1599
Registered: May 2009
Location: Saskatoon

1 Cup

Adam wrote on Wed, 09 January 2019 00:45

Goose wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:42

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:23



I don't think any management group is turning this team around in less than 3 years now. There is nothing left to trade. There is no cap space to do anything with. Chia added Spooner and Manning to screw over whoever his replacement is next year (intentional?).

There are no reliable puck movers on this team except for Klef, that's it. Need 2 more fully hitting their stride in the NHL at least. Maybe some are here in development, but they are still 2-3 years away from being guys that can do a fully season at a high level. Got no wingers too obviously. Might not have any goalie this summer either.

Just too many moves needed, too much cap increases needed and too much asset value that needs to be built back up via the draft. Gonna take years. And the longer we wait, the more damage the OBC and Chia can do to make it take longer.


Ya, I think this pretty much covers it for me. I do think that a competent management team could do something with the forward group in less than 3 years, but the lack of cap flexibility makes that trickier.

But it's the defence and goaltending that worry me the most. Klefbom is great, but you can pretty much count on him to miss 15-20 games a season. Larsson is not nearly as effective and imo isn't a top pair defenceman when paired with pretty much anyone else. Nurse is looking like he'll top out as a decent top 4 but I dont think he's driving that pairing, and still makes a lot of questionable plays in his own end. Sekera is a giant question mark. Russell is playing 2-3 spots above his ability. And if the plan is that Jones and Bouchard are going to ride in and save the day in the next couple of years, then this team is doomed.


I think this deserves it's own thread. I'll try to write something.


This is why we (well... some of us) appreciate you so much.



2016: We need to get heavier, and we need a defenseman!

2018: We need to get faster, and we need a defenseman!

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726834 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WhoreableGuy  is currently offline WhoreableGuy
Messages: 1321
Registered: August 2006
Location: Calgary

1 Cup

We see what happened to Sorensen on McDavid every friggin shift.


"Bah Gawd! Would somebody stop the damn draft!"

- Jim Ross calling the NHL Draft Lotto 2015 as the Oilers win

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726836 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
g2k  is currently offline g2k
Messages: 6861
Registered: January 2003
Location: SPCA

6 Cups

I thought Petrovic could have kept skating and actually tried to play the puck/stick than hold him.

Perhaps when I rewind between periods I will be wrong.



Limecat Logic

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726846 is a reply to message #726836 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adam  is currently offline Adam
Messages: 9782
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB

6 Cups

g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:04

I thought Petrovic could have kept skating and actually tried to play the puck/stick than hold him.

Perhaps when I rewind between periods I will be wrong.


Thought that was a pretty generous penalty shot. Definitely got fouled, but I don't think he ever had a clear breakaway.



"This team needs an enema!"
#FireLowe #FireMacT #FireHowson #FireBuchberger #FireHowsonAgain #FireChiarelli #FireMcLellan #FireBobbyNicks

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726848 is a reply to message #726846 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Skookum Jim  is currently offline Skookum Jim
Messages: 4617
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC

4 Cups

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:12

g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:04

I thought Petrovic could have kept skating and actually tried to play the puck/stick than hold him.

Perhaps when I rewind between periods I will be wrong.


Thought that was a pretty generous penalty shot. Definitely got fouled, but I don't think he ever had a clear breakaway.


Agree, the guy never got clear, and was barely handling the puck.



McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks, K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726837 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oscargasm  is currently offline Oscargasm
Messages: 1599
Registered: May 2009
Location: Saskatoon

1 Cup

Dang... I sat Chiasson for Pavelski in my fantasy league. Oh well. This dude is snipin’ this year.

How long till he re-ups with the Oilers?



2016: We need to get heavier, and we need a defenseman!

2018: We need to get faster, and we need a defenseman!

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726840 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adam  is currently offline Adam
Messages: 9782
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB

6 Cups

Nice slide, Russell.

Crazy thing is it could be 5-1 if not for a couple big stops from Talbot. Ugly start. Again.



"This team needs an enema!"
#FireLowe #FireMacT #FireHowson #FireBuchberger #FireHowsonAgain #FireChiarelli #FireMcLellan #FireBobbyNicks

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726844 is a reply to message #726840 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oscargasm  is currently offline Oscargasm
Messages: 1599
Registered: May 2009
Location: Saskatoon

1 Cup

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:08

Nice slide, Russell.

Crazy thing is it could be 5-1 if not for a couple big stops from Talbot. Ugly start. Again.

Agree... I don’t think Talbs has been bad.



2016: We need to get heavier, and we need a defenseman!

2018: We need to get faster, and we need a defenseman!

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726847 is a reply to message #726840 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kr55  is currently offline Kr55
Messages: 11470
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton

6 Cups

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:08

Nice slide, Russell.

Crazy thing is it could be 5-1 if not for a couple big stops from Talbot. Ugly start. Again.


That wild slide is at least a good sign that Russell is 100% again.



"The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
-Kevin Lowe, April 2013


"Next year (15/16) I would forecast as another developmental year"
- #2, April 2015

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726851 is a reply to message #726847 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adam  is currently offline Adam
Messages: 9782
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB

6 Cups

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:17

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:08

Nice slide, Russell.

Crazy thing is it could be 5-1 if not for a couple big stops from Talbot. Ugly start. Again.


That wild slide is at least a good sign that Russell is 100% again.


Pretty ugly from both of the defencemen on that play. Jones got walked pretty easily, and then Russell not only goes down, but is actually sliding out of the way as he drops. He's almost behind the goal line when the puck goes in.



"This team needs an enema!"
#FireLowe #FireMacT #FireHowson #FireBuchberger #FireHowsonAgain #FireChiarelli #FireMcLellan #FireBobbyNicks

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726841 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Skookum Jim  is currently offline Skookum Jim
Messages: 4617
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC

4 Cups

So much for Caleb Jones.. and Talbot's comeback.


McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks, K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726845 is a reply to message #726841 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
overdue  is currently offline overdue
Messages: 430
Registered: October 2014
Location: Creston

No Cups

Jones went for the bait and got caught on that third one and yeah, Talbot looking pretty average right now. So a crazy lucky one and a penalty shot that shouldn't have been a penalty shot, otherwise it's even. Not bad for having been totally dominated in that period. They must have run out of smelling salts.

[Updated on: Tue, 08 January 2019 21:21]


Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726849 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kr55  is currently offline Kr55
Messages: 11470
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton

6 Cups

Every time they have possession in our end, it's like we're on a PK. Every time we have it in their end, we lose the puck within 5 seconds.

Painful to watch



"The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
-Kevin Lowe, April 2013


"Next year (15/16) I would forecast as another developmental year"
- #2, April 2015

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726860 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oscargasm  is currently offline Oscargasm
Messages: 1599
Registered: May 2009
Location: Saskatoon

1 Cup

Poor dadbot... Can’t blame him for the PS. Two skate deflections. Can’t imaginee he’ll have many positive things to say about his teams performance, same with Hitch.


2016: We need to get heavier, and we need a defenseman!

2018: We need to get faster, and we need a defenseman!

Send a private message to this user  

 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726861 is a reply to message #726824 ]
Tue, 08 January 2019 21:52 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Oscargasm  is currently offline Oscargasm
Messages: 1599
Registered: May 2009
Location: Saskatoon

1 Cup

Lucic... scores? faint


2016: We need to get heavier, and we need a defenseman!

2018: We need to get faster, and we need a defenseman!

Send a private message to this user  

Pages (2): [1  2  >  »]  
Previous Topic:Review: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43)
Next Topic:Pregame: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43)
Oilers NHL Minors Speculation For Sale 


Copyright © OilFans.com 1996-2018.
All content is property of OilFans.com and cannot be used without expressed, written consent from this site.
Questions, comments and suggestions can be directed to oilfans@OilFans.com
Privacy Statement


Hosted by LogicalHosting.ca