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CrudeRemarks  is currently offline CrudeRemarks
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Joel Quenneville > Todd McLellan


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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721777 is a reply to message #721776 ]
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Every coach goes stale in the same place eventually.

I think I could handle 8-9 years of Quenneville before he goes stale here.



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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 07:33

Every coach goes stale in the same place eventually.

I think I could handle 8-9 years of Quenneville before he goes stale here.

And there's an argument to be made that the players in Chicago are the ones who went stale.



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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721872 is a reply to message #721777 ]
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With Q being fired Todd moves into top 5 for longest tenured coach


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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721780 is a reply to message #721776 ]
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 07:26

Joel Quenneville > Todd McLellan


What would really be great is to see the Oilers just hire Quenneville as head coach and suggest that there could be a role for Todd on the staff if he wants it...



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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721786 is a reply to message #721780 ]
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Adam wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 07:59

CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 07:26

Joel Quenneville > Todd McLellan


What would really be great is to see the Oilers just hire Quenneville as head coach and suggest that there could be a role for Todd on the staff if he wants it...

He could get reunited with his buddy down in Bakersfield!



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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721789 is a reply to message #721786 ]
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...would imagine Quenneville will keep his eyes and ears open while he collects his salary from the Blackhawks for the rest of the season...he will be in demand for sure...

https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2016/1/12/10755222/joel-que nneville-contract-extension-blackhawks-head-coach-2016

"Now the team has made sure the coach won't be going anywhere. Quenneville, 57, is now one of several members of the Hawks under long-term control. Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane, Marian Hossa, Artem Anisimov, Duncan Keith, Corey Crawford and Brent Seabrook are all signed through the 2019-20 season (or beyond) as well."...

....different kind of season for NHL head coaches this season...last year none were let go during the regular season...this year two are gone in the first month.....






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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721790 is a reply to message #721789 ]
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GabbyDugan wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 09:11

...would imagine Quenneville will keep his eyes and ears open while he collects his salary from the Blackhawks for the rest of the season...he will be in demand for sure...

https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2016/1/12/10755222/joel-que nneville-contract-extension-blackhawks-head-coach-2016

"Now the team has made sure the coach won't be going anywhere. Quenneville, 57, is now one of several members of the Hawks under long-term control. Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane, Marian Hossa, Artem Anisimov, Duncan Keith, Corey Crawford and Brent Seabrook are all signed through the 2019-20 season (or beyond) as well."...

....different kind of season for NHL head coaches this season...last year none were let go during the regular season...this year two are gone in the first month.....



Yeah, at an ongoing cost of $6MM per season, you have to think the Blackhawks will be giving hima glowing referral to anyone who comes asking...

But maybe you can hire him cheaper and get the Blackhawks to just pick up the delta...



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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721799 is a reply to message #721780 ]
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Adam wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 07:59

CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 07:26

Joel Quenneville > Todd McLellan


What would really be great is to see the Oilers just hire Quenneville as head coach and suggest that there could be a role for Todd on the staff if he wants it...


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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721807 is a reply to message #721780 ]
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Adam wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 06:59

CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 07:26

Joel Quenneville > Todd McLellan


What would really be great is to see the Oilers just hire Quenneville as head coach and suggest that there could be a role for Todd on the staff if he wants it...


Let's promote Todd to GM of the Condors.



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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721808 is a reply to message #721780 ]
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Adam wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 06:59

CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 07:26

Joel Quenneville > Todd McLellan


What would really be great is to see the Oilers just hire Quenneville as head coach and suggest that there could be a role for Todd on the staff if he wants it...


*launches Skype*



Illegitimi non carborundum.

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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721781 is a reply to message #721776 ]
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 07:26

Joel Quenneville > Todd McLellan


That would add a lot of Cups to the management group. But no player Cups, so maybe not a good fit.

Still:

3 Coach Cups > 0 Coach Cups

Sad thing is, had the Oilers not gone on this streak, this would probably be a done deal.



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2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!

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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721785 is a reply to message #721781 ]
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Wow. I didn't think this would happen as I didn't see it being his fault, this is on the GM in my opinion. They won a bunch of cups and it made it so the GM had to make the call on signing aging vets that won for you.

Kane is an OK contract at 10.5 mill as he puts up usually a point a game.
Toews is not a good contract at 10.5 mill. He's being paid for being a cup champ. He's having a better year but he's never been a big scorer who had 58, 58, 52 pts. He makes probably 2 mill too much.
Seabrook is a hell of a player but he is declining fast and makes just under 7 mill for a long time. He's easily 1.5-2 mill too much.
Panarin trade was terrible.
Hjalmarrson trade was bad.

Chia has made some bad decisions just like Bowman BUT the one difference he has is he's given 21 mill to 2 guys who aren't even in their primes yet in McDavid and Leon so the best is yet to come for them. Bowman gave out 21 mill to 2 guys in the back half of their careers so the best of them is behind them.

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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721791 is a reply to message #721776 ]
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Have to think this will shakeup some other organizations. Willie Desjardins has the interim tag in LA and Mike Yeo is on the hot seat in St. Louis.

Guaranteed we are just gonna watch this one as the media praises McLellan and management for the team's start. We only get good things from lotteries.



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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721793 is a reply to message #721791 ]
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....don't know much about Quenneville's successor Jeremy Colliton other than what I've gleaned off the internet...going from a 60-year old coach that has the second most wins in NHL history to a 33-year old is a pretty abrupt change in direction....



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According to Nielson, the Hawks new coach has 1 year of pro coaching in the minors.


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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721795 is a reply to message #721794 ]
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Played in two world juniors for Canada. Only played 1-game on the stacked '05 team, pretty sure he got hurt. Played all six games the year before, never got a point in either tournament.


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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721797 is a reply to message #721793 ]
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GabbyDugan wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 09:35

....don't know much about Quenneville's successor Jeremy Colliton other than what I've gleaned off the internet...going from a 60-year old coach that has the second most wins in NHL history to a 33-year old is a pretty abrupt change in direction....


The nice thing about this for the Hawks is they are still paying about ~$6MM for their coach this year (with that declining sharply after someone hires Quenneville in the next couple of weeks).

Got to think Colliton is dirt cheap. He might not be making league minimum with that resume.



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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #721868 is a reply to message #721797 ]
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Adam wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 10:19

GabbyDugan wrote on Tue, 06 November 2018 09:35

....don't know much about Quenneville's successor Jeremy Colliton other than what I've gleaned off the internet...going from a 60-year old coach that has the second most wins in NHL history to a 33-year old is a pretty abrupt change in direction....


The nice thing about this for the Hawks is they are still paying about ~$6MM for their coach this year (with that declining sharply after someone hires Quenneville in the next couple of weeks).

Got to think Colliton is dirt cheap. He might not be making league minimum with that resume.


Played for the Raiders in the dub. 2nd round pick I think. Didn’t realized he coached at all. I think Bowman is going the way of Wirtz. Odd ball move. They will regret firing Quenville. The Hawks have been separating themselves from Coach Q for the past few years.
Gladly take him here in Edmonton. We could use another “assistant “ coach.



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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #722081 is a reply to message #721776 ]
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Ever since Quenneville was fired, I swear the Oilers stopped giving 2 craps about their own zone. That Rieder back checking effort sealed it for me. This team wants Quenneville :)


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 Re: Hawks fire Quenneville [message #722145 is a reply to message #722081 ]
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....guess it's a matter of how much Mr. Katz still cares about this city and the performance of this hockey team....

https://thehockeywriters.com/oilers-hire-quenneville-katz/

...."Should the organization decide to go in a new direction, it will come down to two simple things. Does the former Chicago Blackhawks bench boss have any interest in coming to the Alberta capital and how many cheques is the owner of this club willing to write to try to get this ship pointed in the right direction? If the first part of the equation is realistic, Katz would be off his rocker to not pursue things further and in short order."....

....hope talks with Mr. Katz and representatives of Mr. Quenneville are in progress...




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