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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719725 is a reply to message #719715 ]
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So handy for the review thread to fire up early. This was basically over in the 2nd.

Positives are 2 pts for LD and a PP goal for Looch. Misleading as the 2nd line pretty much struggled most of the night.

This wasn't even competitive. D was challenged and shaky all game. None of the lines looked to have chemistry or much going on.

Laid an egg and didn't even really show. I didn't expect necessarily a win but I didn't expect a disorganized, halfhearted at times effort from a team that doesn't look hungry. So disappointing that they didn't appear to want to contest this one.

It'll be a miracle if the Oilers reach their home opener with a .500 record. I can't see it. Hope this was a mirage.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719727 is a reply to message #719715 ]
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-Bouchard was nervous out there. You can't really blame the kid for being like that in his first NHL game. Bear will be up again in 8 games and Bouchard will tear up the minors and refine his play.

-Benning was Benning. A warm-body to throw on the ice. Sheesh.

-Leon was horrible the first 2 periods, but settled down and seemed to use his head in the 3rd.

-Talbot couldn't stop a beach ball out there. Good thing we have a solid backup...oh wait...

-I hate playing New Jersey. I never thought I'd ever really miss Taylor Hall. His super wide skating stance and oversized stick always made me cringe. Even in juniors, in my house we dubbed him "Taylor Falls" because of his notorious ability to fall to his knees every shift. It's just so hard to watch Hallsy play knowing what we got in return.

Oh, the humanity!



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719730 is a reply to message #719727 ]
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Looch wrote on Sat, 06 October 2018 13:07

-Bouchard was nervous out there. You can't really blame the kid for being like that in his first NHL game. Bear will be up again in 8 games and Bouchard will tear up the minors and refine his play.

-Benning was Benning. A warm-body to throw on the ice. Sheesh.

-Leon was horrible the first 2 periods, but settled down and seemed to use his head in the 3rd.

-Talbot couldn't stop a beach ball out there. Good thing we have a solid backup...oh wait...

-I hate playing New Jersey. I never thought I'd ever really miss Taylor Hall. His super wide skating stance and oversized stick always made me cringe. Even in juniors, in my house we dubbed him "Taylor Falls" because of his notorious ability to fall to his knees every shift. It's just so hard to watch Hallsy play knowing what we got in return.

Oh, the humanity!


Thanks for the reminder ....



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719731 is a reply to message #719715 ]
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I blame leia for this game, this season, and two of the last 5.


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719732 is a reply to message #719731 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 06 October 2018 14:21

I blame leia for this game, this season, and two of the last 5.



I just feel bad for her.. first live game in 30 years .. travel ... cost $$... and she gets treated to an Oiler crap-fest..




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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719735 is a reply to message #719732 ]
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My record is 1-1 now , but as for that second period tonight it was brutal, 4 SOG and I know 2 came in the last minute, not sure about the others. The third was way better, but a combination of poor play, no bounces going our way and then TV breaks totalling any momentum we'd put together.

Mind I got to see McDavid do his thing with that first goal. I blinked and he'd gone from blue line ot blue line. I know I want to get to see them play at Rogers, so I think I may do and opening game one season, that way my bad luck only ruins the start of the year and they can recover (hopefully)




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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719736 is a reply to message #719715 ]
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There they are folks, your NHL Preseason Champions 2018!!!

When is that banner going up anyhow?

Also - is now the best time to trade Lucic? A goal, an assist, several hits! There’s an impact player!!! Get’er done Chia!



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719739 is a reply to message #719715 ]
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Everyone looks lost in almost every game situation still.

1st unit of the PP is exactly the same as last year under Woodcroft after Letestu was traded. Were the new coaches allowed to give any input for that mess? Yay for McDavid rushes on the PP at least. Yet again though, after that 1 rush, our PP becomes a huge momentum generator for the other team.

In typical McLellan team fashion, our adjustments combined with the other coaches adjustments after the 1st period leave us in the prone position and we look like a lost ECHL team.

Just gotta hope we aren't stuck watching last season all over again.

[Updated on: Sat, 06 October 2018 19:34]


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719740 is a reply to message #719715 ]
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What a stinker.. The Oilers were never in this one, even after they tied it in the first, NJ controlled the pace, won every puck battle, and the had the Oilers chasing the entire game. Disappointing to say the least after all the talk about getting off to a good start.

Nice to see Lucic get a couple points, and with the next game being in Boston maybe he stays motivated. I didn't mind Talbot tonight, he wasn't getting much help. This is not a playoff caliber D.

Last year opening night we blanked the Flames, and it was downhill for the next 81 games. Let's hope this year game one is the kick in the pants the team needs and they wake up for game 2 and at least play like they give a crap. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't think I can make it through another lost season post October.

The Oilers have a tough schedule to start the year, but if they can stay close to .500 by xmas their schedule gets a bit softer and they could get into the mix. Lots of hockey left, but not off to a reassuring start.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719741 is a reply to message #719715 ]
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Really hope not many people got overly excited about that preseason run... they looked even worse than last year at moments today. I miss Hallsy.


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That 2nd period might have been the most garbage hockey I've seen the Oilers play in the last 10 years and I've seen a lot of garbage Oilers hockey. icon_dead


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719746 is a reply to message #719743 ]
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1 shot in a period is not acceptable, at any level of hockey outside of peter puck.

Foolish me figured the boys would be embarrassed by such a showing, and come out harder in the 3rd... like I said, foolish me.



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Hemmer2Eberle wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 01:40

1 shot in a period is not acceptable, at any level of hockey outside of peter puck.

Foolish me figured the boys would be embarrassed by such a showing, and come out harder in the 3rd... like I said, foolish me.

You know, Sutter is still not doing anything at the moment...



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 02:16

Hemmer2Eberle wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 01:40

1 shot in a period is not acceptable, at any level of hockey outside of peter puck.

Foolish me figured the boys would be embarrassed by such a showing, and come out harder in the 3rd... like I said, foolish me.

You know, Sutter is still not doing anything at the moment...


Wonder how Sutter would evolve his game plan for todays game. I imagine he would quite a bit, he had interviews last year I think about how he recognizes the speed of the game is up and checking has changed from hits to stick checking. And he always understood the importance of actual possession of the puck.

Sigh, knew I shoulda been more worried when I hear Oilers players in pre-season talking about how the OIlers are gonna up their dump and chase game, by tweaking the intensity of the CHASE! ugh...fire McLellan ASAP please. Guy is clearly running the show with an iron fist. I saw nothing different in the game plan last night compared to last year. Teams all have the book on all our lame little plays.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 10:41

Ragnarok73 wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 02:16

Hemmer2Eberle wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 01:40

1 shot in a period is not acceptable, at any level of hockey outside of peter puck.

Foolish me figured the boys would be embarrassed by such a showing, and come out harder in the 3rd... like I said, foolish me.

You know, Sutter is still not doing anything at the moment...


Wonder how Sutter would evolve his game plan for todays game. I imagine he would quite a bit, he had interviews last year I think about how he recognizes the speed of the game is up and checking has changed from hits to stick checking. And he always understood the importance of actual possession of the puck.

Sigh, knew I shoulda been more worried when I hear Oilers players in pre-season talking about how the OIlers are gonna up their dump and chase game, by tweaking the intensity of the CHASE! ugh...fire McLellan ASAP please. Guy is clearly running the show with an iron fist. I saw nothing different in the game plan last night compared to last year. Teams all have the book on all our lame little plays.


They were talking on the radio last week about how Gulutzan has been running PP in practice - despite the team talking up Viveiros as a PP ace when they hired him. Would be so Oilers to not use someone like that because A) he has the least recognizable name in the group and B) because everyone suggests they probably should.

Even the mouth-breathers like Rishaug have realized that there’s nothing threatening about this power play as it’s currently set. They are dangerous on the rush because they have Connor McDavid, but beyond that - nothing. The set-up is not designed well and it’s unlikely to be successful as a result.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ New Jersey (Game #1) [message #719762 is a reply to message #719750 ]
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Adam wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 10:23

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 10:41

Ragnarok73 wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 02:16

Hemmer2Eberle wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 01:40

1 shot in a period is not acceptable, at any level of hockey outside of peter puck.

Foolish me figured the boys would be embarrassed by such a showing, and come out harder in the 3rd... like I said, foolish me.

You know, Sutter is still not doing anything at the moment...


Wonder how Sutter would evolve his game plan for todays game. I imagine he would quite a bit, he had interviews last year I think about how he recognizes the speed of the game is up and checking has changed from hits to stick checking. And he always understood the importance of actual possession of the puck.

Sigh, knew I shoulda been more worried when I hear Oilers players in pre-season talking about how the OIlers are gonna up their dump and chase game, by tweaking the intensity of the CHASE! ugh...fire McLellan ASAP please. Guy is clearly running the show with an iron fist. I saw nothing different in the game plan last night compared to last year. Teams all have the book on all our lame little plays.


They were talking on the radio last week about how Gulutzan has been running PP in practice - despite the team talking up Viveiros as a PP ace when they hired him. Would be so Oilers to not use someone like that because A) he has the least recognizable name in the group and B) because everyone suggests they probably should.

Even the mouth-breathers like Rishaug have realized that there’s nothing threatening about this power play as it’s currently set. They are dangerous on the rush because they have Connor McDavid, but beyond that - nothing. The set-up is not designed well and it’s unlikely to be successful as a result.


That was Gregor, making the comment after seeing it in one practice. He asked Rischaug about it on air, who has been at camp full time, and he told Gregor he was wrong, Gulutzan usually helps out in practice with all the special teams, he said he hasn't been running the PP.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 22:38


That was Gregor, making the comment after seeing it in one practice. He asked Rischaug about it on air, who has been at camp full time, and he told Gregor he was wrong, Gulutzan usually helps out in practice with all the special teams, he said he hasn't been running the PP.



I didn't think it was that black & white. Thought Rishaug hemmed and hawed and said that he thinks Gulutzan is a rover who deals with a bunch of things, but that yes, he'd been running the PP in practices lately.

I've no confidence in Rishaug's ability to dissect anything. He's useless and I find while he and Spector seem to often be AT practice, they are rarely really able to talk to what happened on the ice like Gregor or Stauffer or a couple others seem able to do.



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Hell... why invite just one Sutter?! Let's bring down the whole family. Cant be any worse off.


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Just pointing out that last year the Jets stunk their first game and then lit us up the next game against us and went on a tear to the playoffs. I’m hoping we see that this year..... but I’ve had my hopes up and down for the last 12 years I’m indifferent now. How sad is that? Been a fan since ‘79 and these eyes....cry every night.... for you.


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Hockey is what makes winter bearable. Bad first game. I think this year will be different. I really think this team has a chip on their shoulder and the first game should piss them off even more. They have enough skill, they just need to play like they give a damn.


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inverno76 wrote on Sun, 07 October 2018 21:18

Hockey is what makes winter bearable. Bad first game. I think this year will be different. I really think this team has a chip on their shoulder and the first game should piss them off even more. They have enough skill, they just need to play like they give a damn.

Pick a junior hockey to Team to follow. Even if they’re awful they’ll still care if they’re awful.



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Lucic played very well. Looked engaged, scored a goal, made a good pass for another goal. Maybe one of his best games as an Oiler in my opinion. I hope that continues. Other than that, not a good game by very many.

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Disinterested hockey is what it looked like. Their G.A.S. meter was so low and their tempo from preseason and even in the German game were more inspired than what I saw on Saturday. I don't understand what is with this club, they do not care to be out there or doing the bare minimum to get the job done.

I don't know just one game but there is too much telling of that game to let me know the next 10 games.. 0-10? Is that a real possibility? I do think it is. 0 and 10 and the Oilers are in "see you next year mode".

Our D was horrible passing back and fourth in their zone and could they not make a pass that could connect? One pass in the defensive zone that you need to make, just one, get the puck out and onto a teammates stick in the neutral zone.

The only player worth noting is McDavid. He's amazing and soon should this crap continue will Pronger is way out of town. Can't say I blame him.

It's not getting better is it?



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While McDavid was decent because he always is because he is so good. I didn't think McDavid looked that great either. First game last year, McDavid literally beat the Flames all by himself.


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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 October 2018 11:50

While McDavid was decent because he always is because he is so good. I didn't think McDavid looked that great either. First game last year, McDavid literally beat the Flames all by himself.


Even a poor performing McDavid is equal to the 10x best of any other player on the Oilers.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 October 2018 11:50

While McDavid was decent because he always is because he is so good. I didn't think McDavid looked that great either. First game last year, McDavid literally beat the Flames all by himself.


It's an unreasonable expectation to think that any game not completely dominated by McDavid is a disappointment.

He got two assists and was a driving factor in both goals. His line had five shots and the Oilers were dangerous when he was on at 5v5, and largely defending when he was off the ice.

I think with any reasonable expectation level, you can't be disappointed in 97 Saturday. The rest of the team? Fire away.



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