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McPoints, please. And lots of them!


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OilMJMOil wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 09:45

McPoints, please. And lots of them!


10-9 regulation loss would be ideal. 0 need/desire for a W tonight.



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Mike wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 07:01

OilMJMOil wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 09:45

McPoints, please. And lots of them!


10-9 regulation loss would be ideal. 0 need/desire for a W tonight.


10-9, I'm with you partner! McPointies!! icon_thumbsup



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Eberle and Rienhart deals finally paying some dividends. Islanders jumped 2 points ahead of us.

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McDavid points would be good. He's been quiet for the last few games.


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.....looks like a mostly AHL level of Defense for the Oilers tonight, including Keegan Lowe making his Oiler debut, wearing # 47...

http://edmontonsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/lik e-father-like-son-edmonton-oilers-will-play-keegan-lowe-son- of-kevin-against-vegas-golden-knights

....."“Sekera won’t play again this season. He’s got a minor problem with the same knee (surgery last spring) and it’s not worth it to fight through it,” said McLellan, who didn’t have the player in his team’s lineup until December as he recovered from tearing his anterior cruciate ligament in the playoffs against Anaheim last May, and watched the veteran struggle with the pace of the game after missing all of training camp and the first 2-1/2 months of the season.

Sekera stumbled on Monday against the Minnesota Wild on a play that seemed harmless at the time but tweaked something. Auvitu took a slap shot off his left foot as he tried to move a Minnesota player. His foot’s swollen.

“It’s not broken,” said McLellan, who had him paired with Adam Larsson against the Wild.
McDavid keeps tabs on Hall’s run"...

...haven't looked at the advanced stats, but to my eye, Darnell Nurse seems to have hit the wall lately...maybe trying to do too much?...





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GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 09:26

.....looks like a mostly AHL level of Defense for the Oilers tonight, including Keegan Lowe making his Oiler debut, wearing # 47...

http://edmontonsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/lik e-father-like-son-edmonton-oilers-will-play-keegan-lowe-son- of-kevin-against-vegas-golden-knights

....."“Sekera won’t play again this season. He’s got a minor problem with the same knee (surgery last spring) and it’s not worth it to fight through it,” said McLellan, who didn’t have the player in his team’s lineup until December as he recovered from tearing his anterior cruciate ligament in the playoffs against Anaheim last May, and watched the veteran struggle with the pace of the game after missing all of training camp and the first 2-1/2 months of the season.

Sekera stumbled on Monday against the Minnesota Wild on a play that seemed harmless at the time but tweaked something. Auvitu took a slap shot off his left foot as he tried to move a Minnesota player. His foot’s swollen.

“It’s not broken,” said McLellan, who had him paired with Adam Larsson against the Wild.
McDavid keeps tabs on Hall’s run"...

...haven't looked at the advanced stats, but to my eye, Darnell Nurse seems to have hit the wall lately...maybe trying to do too much?...




Sek should have been shut down before Klefbom.



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Nah i'm pretty sure the docs thought he couldn't reinjure it any farther. Was worth the risk to have Sekera in there in these last few vital games.


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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:44

Nah i'm pretty sure the docs thought he couldn't reinjure it any farther. Was worth the risk to have Sekera in there in these last few vital games.

Agreed. He wanted to play and the doctors didn't care, so why not? Did you know Kevin Lowe once place through a herniated AND separated sphincter? Crazy pain tolerance. Although the boys on the bus were tougher than kids these days. Stupid cyclical nature of hockey. In a lot of respects the Oilers are weak now because they're still paying for the toughness of the team 32 years ago.



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OilMJMOil wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 09:04

GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 09:26

.....looks like a mostly AHL level of Defense for the Oilers tonight, including Keegan Lowe making his Oiler debut, wearing # 47...

http://edmontonsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/lik e-father-like-son-edmonton-oilers-will-play-keegan-lowe-son- of-kevin-against-vegas-golden-knights

....."“Sekera won’t play again this season. He’s got a minor problem with the same knee (surgery last spring) and it’s not worth it to fight through it,” said McLellan, who didn’t have the player in his team’s lineup until December as he recovered from tearing his anterior cruciate ligament in the playoffs against Anaheim last May, and watched the veteran struggle with the pace of the game after missing all of training camp and the first 2-1/2 months of the season.

Sekera stumbled on Monday against the Minnesota Wild on a play that seemed harmless at the time but tweaked something. Auvitu took a slap shot off his left foot as he tried to move a Minnesota player. His foot’s swollen.

“It’s not broken,” said McLellan, who had him paired with Adam Larsson against the Wild.
McDavid keeps tabs on Hall’s run"...

...haven't looked at the advanced stats, but to my eye, Darnell Nurse seems to have hit the wall lately...maybe trying to do too much?...




Sek should have been shut down before Klefbom.


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GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 09:26

.....looks like a mostly AHL level of Defense for the Oilers tonight, including Keegan Lowe making his Oiler debut, wearing # 47...

http://edmontonsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/lik e-father-like-son-edmonton-oilers-will-play-keegan-lowe-son- of-kevin-against-vegas-golden-knights




Three cheers for nepotism!

It could be argued that the more meaningful hockey is actually in the AHL right now with the Condors pushing for the playoffs. But this sure doesn't feel like an "on merit" recall. Caleb Jones and even Ryan Mantha have to be seen as better prospects at this point. I mean, even Eric Gryba is kicking around down there for another year.

It doesn't really matter except how nauseating it will be, especially the inevitable Kevin Lowe interview.

In any case, they absolutely should not re-sign Lowe this summer when that contract could be used on a college FA defenseman who has an actual shot of becoming an NHL player. I'm skeptical Lowe is able to get an NHL deal anywhere other than Edmonton. Which is also why this recall just feels ridiculous.

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mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:35

GabbyDugan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 09:26

.....looks like a mostly AHL level of Defense for the Oilers tonight, including Keegan Lowe making his Oiler debut, wearing # 47...

http://edmontonsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/lik e-father-like-son-edmonton-oilers-will-play-keegan-lowe-son- of-kevin-against-vegas-golden-knights




Three cheers for nepotism!

It could be argued that the more meaningful hockey is actually in the AHL right now with the Condors pushing for the playoffs. But this sure doesn't feel like an "on merit" recall. Caleb Jones and even Ryan Mantha have to be seen as better prospects at this point. I mean, even Eric Gryba is kicking around down there for another year.

It doesn't really matter except how nauseating it will be, especially the inevitable Kevin Lowe interview.

In any case, they absolutely should not re-sign Lowe this summer when that contract could be used on a college FA defenseman who has an actual shot of becoming an NHL player. I'm skeptical Lowe is able to get an NHL deal anywhere other than Edmonton. Which is also why this recall just feels ridiculous.

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Puljujarvi skating with Draisaitl and Khaira... could it be?! Likely will get snubbed for any powerplay time though.

In all seriousness, that would be one heavy and fast line. I like the prospect of it



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OilMJMOil wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:08

Puljujarvi skating with Draisaitl and Khaira... could it be?! Likely will get snubbed for any powerplay time though.

In all seriousness, that would be one heavy and fast line. I like the prospect of it


McLellan is just trolling us. 2 games left in the year and Pulju is getting a thimble of ice time with a decent C without Lucic also having to be there too.



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:12

OilMJMOil wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:08

Puljujarvi skating with Draisaitl and Khaira... could it be?! Likely will get snubbed for any powerplay time though.

In all seriousness, that would be one heavy and fast line. I like the prospect of it


McLellan is just trolling us. 2 games left in the year and Pulju is getting a thimble of ice time with a decent C without Lucic also having to be there too.


It’ll be short lived. Vegas will rip our AHL D apart and he’ll put Puljujarvi back with Lucic and Strome while putting Draisaitl with McDavid in an effort to create offense.



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OilMJMOil wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:21

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:12

OilMJMOil wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:08

Puljujarvi skating with Draisaitl and Khaira... could it be?! Likely will get snubbed for any powerplay time though.

In all seriousness, that would be one heavy and fast line. I like the prospect of it


McLellan is just trolling us. 2 games left in the year and Pulju is getting a thimble of ice time with a decent C without Lucic also having to be there too.


It’ll be short lived. Vegas will rip our AHL D apart and he’ll put Puljujarvi back with Lucic and Strome while putting Draisaitl with McDavid in an effort to create offense.


Seriously, how did Pulju end up playing with Lucic at 5v5 4+ times as much than any other winger? 458:58 with Lucic. Next closest winger he's played with is 108:40 with Khaira. Maybe his 114:31 with Nuge has some opposite winger time mixed in? Probably not much.



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There was one game earlier in the year when they had Lucic - Drai - JP as a line and they absolutely dominated.
Of course they were broken up the very next game icon_rolleyes

I really like Drai and JP together. Both big guys who can wheel and have great hockey sense.



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:26

OilMJMOil wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:21

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:12

OilMJMOil wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 10:08

Puljujarvi skating with Draisaitl and Khaira... could it be?! Likely will get snubbed for any powerplay time though.

In all seriousness, that would be one heavy and fast line. I like the prospect of it


McLellan is just trolling us. 2 games left in the year and Pulju is getting a thimble of ice time with a decent C without Lucic also having to be there too.


It’ll be short lived. Vegas will rip our AHL D apart and he’ll put Puljujarvi back with Lucic and Strome while putting Draisaitl with McDavid in an effort to create offense.


Seriously, how did Pulju end up playing with Lucic at even strength almost 4 times as much than any other winger? 460:34 with Lucic. Next closest winger he's played with is 108:40 with Khaira. Maybe his 114:31 with Nuge has some opposite winger time mixed in? Probably not much.


The Todd gave Puljujarvi a veteran line mate in Lucic. Someone to teach him the game and how to be a pro. It’s reflected on the stat sheet, where Puljujarvi actually has scored more goals than Lucic and is a 0 to Lucic’s -12. It’s been nothing but beneficial for JP to be paired with Lucic.



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A Khaira - Leon - Puljujarvi line is interesting. I would have liked to see it a while ago. Moving forward, the Oilers are going to need to find cheap guys that can score a bit. It would be nice if they could find some of that internally. They tried Caggulia, I don't think he is more than a 3rd/4th liner. Slep is a borderline NHLer. Khaira has good speed, good size, has some offensive ability. How much remains to be seen but he's played primarily with slugs so its hard to say.


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When it comes to Puljujarvi and playing time. He's 4 1/2 months older than Yamamoto yet I don't think there is a single person who thinks Yamamoto should be in pro hockey this year and many of us think he should start in the minors next year. So I find it a bit puzzling how the expectation level of the 2 players is so drastically different. 4 1/2 months makes that much of a difference? I don't think so.


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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 11:09

When it comes to Puljujarvi and playing time. He's 4 1/2 months older than Yamamoto yet I don't think there is a single person who thinks Yamamoto should be in pro hockey this year and many of us think he should start in the minors next year. So I find it a bit puzzling how the expectation level of the 2 players is so drastically different. 4 1/2 months makes that much of a difference? I don't think so.

You're absolutely correct. It's too bad the current and previous (also current) Oilers management have shown a complete inability to sign enough good hockey players to fully staff an NHL team and allow young players, who have no business being in the NHL, to simmer in Bakersfield. This is why the Oilers are bad. This is why the Condors are bad. This is why Katz is bad. It's all related. It's all predictable.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 11:09

When it comes to Puljujarvi and playing time. He's 4 1/2 months older than Yamamoto yet I don't think there is a single person who thinks Yamamoto should be in pro hockey this year and many of us think he should start in the minors next year. So I find it a bit puzzling how the expectation level of the 2 players is so drastically different. 4 1/2 months makes that much of a difference? I don't think so.


...Laine of the Jets is less than three weeks older than Puljujarvi, and I think Laine absolutely belongs in the NHL...Laine is an exceptional talent for sure, but I don't think age is the only factor...just like real life-some 20 year olds are mature beyond their years, others haven't even started on the path to maturity...




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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 11:09

When it comes to Puljujarvi and playing time. He's 4 1/2 months older than Yamamoto yet I don't think there is a single person who thinks Yamamoto should be in pro hockey this year and many of us think he should start in the minors next year. So I find it a bit puzzling how the expectation level of the 2 players is so drastically different. 4 1/2 months makes that much of a difference? I don't think so.

The difference you ask?

How about 8 inches and 40+ lbs??



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g2k wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 11:43

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 11:09

When it comes to Puljujarvi and playing time. He's 4 1/2 months older than Yamamoto yet I don't think there is a single person who thinks Yamamoto should be in pro hockey this year and many of us think he should start in the minors next year. So I find it a bit puzzling how the expectation level of the 2 players is so drastically different. 4 1/2 months makes that much of a difference? I don't think so.

The difference you ask?

How about 8 inches and 40+ lbs??


So what you are saying is bigger guys are automatically better players? If you go by years of playing, the 2 are almost the same. Yamamoto has played in NA and played the NA game his whole life, he'd have an advantage as there is a BIG difference between European and NA game. The only reason he is allowed to play in the AHL is because he came from Europe. If he was in junior hockey when he was drafted, he'd be in junior and no one would question it.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 14:48

g2k wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 11:43

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 11:09

When it comes to Puljujarvi and playing time. He's 4 1/2 months older than Yamamoto yet I don't think there is a single person who thinks Yamamoto should be in pro hockey this year and many of us think he should start in the minors next year. So I find it a bit puzzling how the expectation level of the 2 players is so drastically different. 4 1/2 months makes that much of a difference? I don't think so.

The difference you ask?

How about 8 inches and 40+ lbs??


So what you are saying is bigger guys are automatically better players? If you go by years of playing, the 2 are almost the same. Yamamoto has played in NA and played the NA game his whole life, he'd have an advantage as there is a BIG difference between European and NA game. The only reason he is allowed to play in the AHL is because he came from Europe. If he was in junior hockey when he was drafted, he'd be in junior and no one would question it.


Might be true but the fact is he has been playing pro hockey against men for a few years. If you include his pre draft time I think he has been in the Pro's since he was 16.
He is bigger and stronger than KY
JP has proved to be a better player that KY at this stage.
The Oilers have a historically bad PP and JP has shown some one timer ability that the team has had ZERO of on said PP yet doesnt get a chance.

Age isnt the only determinant in JP getting a proper chance. He has plenty more to offer it seems but TM loves to ride his style of playing vets into the dirt and with it the teams successes.
In fact, simply using a singular example of KY and the age diff is ridiculous and I cant even believe I am refuting it but it is a slow day at work....

You always talk about everyone elses "MO" or predictability. Your shtick of blindly defending the ludicrous is entertaining but it is getting old. Bring something new to the table.



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Hopefully the team can put out a much better effort and finish off the season with a couple of wins. They haven't given the fans much to cheer about this year so finishing the year with 2 home wins would at least be something.


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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 15:24

Hopefully the team can put out a much better effort and finish off the season with a couple of wins. They haven't given the fans much to cheer about this year so finishing the year with 2 home wins would at least be something.


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OilMJMOil wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 15:34

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 15:24

Hopefully the team can put out a much better effort and finish off the season with a couple of wins. They haven't given the fans much to cheer about this year so finishing the year with 2 home wins would at least be something.


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Pretty pathetic that the Oilers are even be in this position to be in the lottery but if they won it, it would make it a tiny bit better. Not much though.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 14:48

g2k wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 11:43

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 11:09

When it comes to Puljujarvi and playing time. He's 4 1/2 months older than Yamamoto yet I don't think there is a single person who thinks Yamamoto should be in pro hockey this year and many of us think he should start in the minors next year. So I find it a bit puzzling how the expectation level of the 2 players is so drastically different. 4 1/2 months makes that much of a difference? I don't think so.

The difference you ask?

How about 8 inches and 40+ lbs??


So what you are saying is bigger guys are automatically better players? If you go by years of playing, the 2 are almost the same. Yamamoto has played in NA and played the NA game his whole life, he'd have an advantage as there is a BIG difference between European and NA game. The only reason he is allowed to play in the AHL is because he came from Europe. If he was in junior hockey when he was drafted, he'd be in junior and no one would question it.

If this franchise had any depth, neither of them would be in the NHL, but they simply don't. Therefore the big Finn is up here. Being that they feel their hand is forced, they still seem to put very little emphasis on putting him in situations to succeed.

If it was YM in this situation, I'm not so sure that despite him showing flashes, they would keep playing "whack a mole" with him every time he started to shine. It's gotten downright goofy how the HC is utilizing him.



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g2k wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 16:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 14:48

g2k wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 11:43

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 05 April 2018 11:09

When it comes to Puljujarvi and playing time. He's 4 1/2 months older than Yamamoto yet I don't think there is a single person who thinks Yamamoto should be in pro hockey this year and many of us think he should start in the minors next year. So I find it a bit puzzling how the expectation level of the 2 players is so drastically different. 4 1/2 months makes that much of a difference? I don't think so.

The difference you ask?

How about 8 inches and 40+ lbs??


So what you are saying is bigger guys are automatically better players? If you go by years of playing, the 2 are almost the same. Yamamoto has played in NA and played the NA game his whole life, he'd have an advantage as there is a BIG difference between European and NA game. The only reason he is allowed to play in the AHL is because he came from Europe. If he was in junior hockey when he was drafted, he'd be in junior and no one would question it.

If this franchise had any depth, neither of them would be in the NHL, but they simply don't. Therefore the big Finn is up here. Being that they feel their hand is forced, they still seem to put very little emphasis on putting him in situations to succeed.

If it was YM in this situation, I'm not so sure that despite him showing flashes, they would keep playing "whack a mole" with him every time he started to shine. It's gotten downright goofy how the HC is utilizing him.


Puljujarvi strikes me as the type of kid that needs to feel comfortable in his surroundings in order to play his best. I don't know what the social dynamic is like on the team, but I suspect that his struggles with English might have him feeling left out at times; all the guys are laughing, or tuned in closely to the coach, and you aren't entirely sure what's up... could make him feel a little on the outside. In the odd occasions we've seen him in and around the media he comes off as an awesome dude, so I don't think he'll end up a social parahia like Yak did.

I do think he's good enough to play in the league today, but if the coaching staff keeps singling him out for being different (aka, struggling with English), I think his play will suffer.



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