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10 times!
10 freakin times they have been allowed a goal on the first shot of the game.

34 times
34 times they have allowed the first goal.


I actually had to rewind the PVR to see if I heard that right.

Oh, and Ryan's 1st NHL goal.



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This team is stupid.


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I always turn the TV on late so I miss the first goal against. Turned the TV on a 810pm just in time to see the replay. Predictable. golf




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It's so predictable isn't it the first shot goes in. Nice to see our first 2 minutes of extra possession results in us not scoring as usual.


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Holy poop, we've got the Sharks feed here for some reason. They've got 2 players yet to score this the season... What odds we gift them the goals to break the ducks??


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Can't win, when the refs are assisting on goals for them... Unbelievable.


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HamBlaster wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 21:14

This team is stupid.


Yes they are. I am going to choose no to be stupid and move on from this game now. I love watching hockey but this isn't enjoyable.
2-0, could very well be 4 already.

Im out, enjoy the game everyone, I am only hoping for McPoints.

ETA; Russell has an A on his chest. I understand nothing to do with his team anymore.



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PlusOne wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 20:13

10 times!
10 freakin times they have been allowed a goal on the first shot of the game.

34 times
34 times they have allowed the first goal.


I actually had to rewind the PVR to see if I heard that right.

Oh, and Ryan's 1st NHL goal.

Not being prepared to play is my only guess. That's on the coaching staff.



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At some point it's not the coaches. These players are professionals and they know what is expected of them.

Why do you need the coach to rah rah before every single game to get up for it? To me it's on the players not the coaches. Does anyone here need a pep talk before every single shift of work? Or do you show up and get your job done?



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ryanc182 wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 21:02

At some point it's not the coaches. These players are professionals and they know what is expected of them.

Why do you need the coach to rah rah before every single game to get up for it? To me it's on the players not the coaches. Does anyone here need a pep talk before every single shift of work? Or do you show up and get your job done?

Or players tuning out the coach?




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Kassian 2 breakaway goals, you know what that means!!! He'll be on shoot out duty for the rest of the season...

Can't understand this team, how they keep coming back giving us a little hope before flopping. That's why I like many keep coming back the hope they give us.

Is there any fans in the arena?? It's quieter than a library...



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ryanc182 wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 21:02

At some point it's not the coaches. These players are professionals and they know what is expected of them.

Why do you need the coach to rah rah before every single game to get up for it? To me it's on the players not the coaches. Does anyone here need a pep talk before every single shift of work? Or do you show up and get your job done?


So 23 guys just all just don't have the heart and intensity? That all these guys just come to work and fail again and again and it doesn't have anything to do with the leadership and game plan?

Or maybe there's a lack of preparedness plus a dislike of the coach which causes issues?



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It's never straight forward when these two sides meet is it???

Just as we think the impossible will happen it's tied up again.



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I just read Don Cherry's book ( the one written in the 70's not the newer ones. In it he said a coaches only two responsibilities are to:

1) Make sure all players are aware of their roles and responsibilities and to put them in situations where they are more likely to succeed and be ready to play.

2) To stand up for your players. To go to bat for them with management and the media and refs and the league. Even to the point of taking the heat your self. To make them want to play for you.

[Updated on: Sat, 10 February 2018 22:04]


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Babaganoosh wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:01

I just read Don Cherry's book ( the one written in the 70's not the newer ones. In it he said a coaches only two responsibilities are to:

1) Make sure all players are aware of their roles and responsibilities and to put them in situations where they are more likely to succeed and be ready to play.

2) To stand up for your players. To go to bat for them with management and the media and refs and the league. Even to the point of taking the heat your self. To make them want to play for you.


Does anyone believe Todd McLellan is succeeding at EITHER of those points?



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Adam wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:30

Babaganoosh wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:01

I just read Don Cherry's book ( the one written in the 70's not the newer ones. In it he said a coaches only two responsibilities are to:

1) Make sure all players are aware of their roles and responsibilities and to put them in situations where they are more likely to succeed and be ready to play.

2) To stand up for your players. To go to bat for them with management and the media and refs and the league. Even to the point of taking the heat your self. To make them want to play for you.


Does anyone believe Todd McLellan is succeeding at EITHER of those points?


Nope. Too damn stubborn to change. Need to be gone.
Frick!



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Adam wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 21:45

ryanc182 wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 21:02

At some point it's not the coaches. These players are professionals and they know what is expected of them.

Why do you need the coach to rah rah before every single game to get up for it? To me it's on the players not the coaches. Does anyone here need a pep talk before every single shift of work? Or do you show up and get your job done?


So 23 guys just all just don't have the heart and intensity? That all these guys just come to work and fail again and again and it doesn't have anything to do with the leadership and game plan?

Or maybe there's a lack of preparedness plus a dislike of the coach which causes issues?


It's both, the blame is on everyone.



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Getting REALLY sick of Lucic blindly throwing the puck into the middle. That goal is on him.


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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:27

Getting REALLY sick of Lucic blindly throwing the puck into the middle. That goal is on him.


Lucic has to go. Buy out his frickin' contract. Six million reasons why he should not be on this team!

Brutal!

Chia better have something good up his magic sleeve.

Damn! I'm pissed off with this organization!

Change needs to happen!



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stotto wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:32

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:27

Getting REALLY sick of Lucic blindly throwing the puck into the middle. That goal is on him.


Lucic has to go. Buy out his frickin' contract. Six million reasons why he should not be on this team!

Brutal!

Chia better have something good up his magic sleeve.

Damn! I'm pissed off with this organization!

Change needs to happen!


Haha...Buying out Lucic now would mean a cap hit of $2MM for each of the next TEN seasons.



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stotto wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:32

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:27

Getting REALLY sick of Lucic blindly throwing the puck into the middle. That goal is on him.


Lucic has to go. Buy out his frickin' contract. Six million reasons why he should not be on this team!

Brutal!

Chia better have something good up his magic sleeve.

Damn! I'm pissed off with this organization!

Change needs to happen!

What? Can’t handle spending $6,000,000/yr for 5 more years of this big stiff?



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stotto wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:32

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:27

Getting REALLY sick of Lucic blindly throwing the puck into the middle. That goal is on him.


Lucic has to go. Buy out his frickin' contract. Six million reasons why he should not be on this team!

Brutal!

Chia better have something good up his magic sleeve.

Damn! I'm pissed off with this organization!

Change needs to happen!

Chiarelli pretty much gave Lucic a buyout proof contact. But Chiarelli watched Lucic grow and knows his wife and she’s into nutrition and now Milan is into nutrition and all now too so...

http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/ cult-of-hockey-milan-lucics-new-oilers-contract-is-buy-out-p roof

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout_calculator/milan-lucic#re sults


2016-17: $4.0 million salary/$4.0 million signing bonus
2017-18: $4.0 million salary/$4.0 million signing bonus
2018-19: $3.5 million salary/$3.5 million signing bonus
2019-20: $3.0 million salary/$3.0 million signing bonus
2020-21: $1.0 million salary/$3.0 million signing bonus
2021-22: $2.5 million salary/$2.5 million signing bonus
2022-23: $1.0 million salary/$3.0 million signing bonus

In years 1-4 and 6 of the deal, the money is split evenly between salary and signing bonuses. In years 5 and 7, however, the majority of the money comes in the form of bonuses, lump-sum payments that are 100 percent guaranteed.

It’s easy to understand why Lucic’s camp would desire such an arrangement, especially in 2022-23. The current NHL CBA expires at the end of the 2021-22 season, and this way in the event of a lockout Lucic will be able to pocket a $3.0 million signing bonus on July 1 and will only be risking a relatively small $1.0 million salary.

The difficulty of this for the Oilers is that in the event of a decline in Lucic’s performance, the team is going to be stuck. If, for example, events compel Edmonton to try and clear Lucic’s contract in the summer of 2020, a buyout would be almost entirely pointless because the team would only be buying out $4.5 million in total salary as opposed to a cap hit of $18 million over the final three years.

[Updated on: Sat, 10 February 2018 23:06]


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g2k wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 23:00

stotto wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:32

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:27

Getting REALLY sick of Lucic blindly throwing the puck into the middle. That goal is on him.


Lucic has to go. Buy out his frickin' contract. Six million reasons why he should not be on this team!

Brutal!

Chia better have something good up his magic sleeve.

Damn! I'm pissed off with this organization!

Change needs to happen!

Chiarelli pretty much gave Lucic a buyout proof contact. But Chiarelli watched Lucic grow and knows his wife and she’s into nutrition and now Milan is into nutrition and all now too so...

http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/ cult-of-hockey-milan-lucics-new-oilers-contract-is-buy-out-p roof

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout_calculator/milan-lucic#re sults


2016-17: $4.0 million salary/$4.0 million signing bonus
2017-18: $4.0 million salary/$4.0 million signing bonus
2018-19: $3.5 million salary/$3.5 million signing bonus
2019-20: $3.0 million salary/$3.0 million signing bonus
2020-21: $1.0 million salary/$3.0 million signing bonus
2021-22: $2.5 million salary/$2.5 million signing bonus
2022-23: $1.0 million salary/$3.0 million signing bonus

In years 1-4 and 6 of the deal, the money is split evenly between salary and signing bonuses. In years 5 and 7, however, the majority of the money comes in the form of bonuses, lump-sum payments that are 100 percent guaranteed.

It’s easy to understand why Lucic’s camp would desire such an arrangement, especially in 2022-23. The current NHL CBA expires at the end of the 2021-22 season, and this way in the event of a lockout Lucic will be able to pocket a $3.0 million signing bonus on July 1 and will only be risking a relatively small $1.0 million salary.

The difficulty of this for the Oilers is that in the event of a decline in Lucic’s performance, the team is going to be stuck. If, for example, events compel Edmonton to try and clear Lucic’s contract in the summer of 2020, a buyout would be almost entirely pointless because the team would only be buying out $4.5 million in total salary as opposed to a cap hit of $18 million over the final three years.



Good lord. I thought it was ugly at 1/3 over twice the term...but that's a disaster:

BUYOUT CAP HIT
2018-19 $3,233,333
2019-20 $3,733,333
2020-21 $5,733,333
2021-22 $4,233,333
2022-23 $5,733,333
2023-24 $733,333
2024-25 $733,333
2025-26 $733,333
2026-27 $733,333
2027-28 $733,333



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And just because it's fun to see just how badly Chiarelli screwed us over:

Kris Russell:

BUYOUT CAP HIT
2018-19 $611,111
2019-20 $1,111,111
2020-21 $3,611,111
2021-22 $1,111,111
2022-23 $1,111,111
2023-24 $1,111,111

Andrej Sekera:

BUYOUT CAP HIT
2018-19 $1,611,111
2019-20 $2,611,111
2020-21 $2,611,111
2021-22 $1,611,111
2022-23 $1,611,111
2023-24 $1,611,111

All of Chia's big free agent signings get No-Move Clauses, and all of them get some level of buy-out protection. Lucic is clearly the worst, but that last year of Russell's has a pretty ugly poison pill too. Sekera is my guess for the one LEAST needing a buyout, but between these three guys, we're pretty much screwed in the next expansion draft, and we're losing a high quality player unless somehow we talk these guys in to waiving clauses...



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Adam wrote on Sun, 11 February 2018 00:38

And just because it's fun to see just how badly Chiarelli screwed us over:

Kris Russell:

BUYOUT CAP HIT
2018-19 $611,111
2019-20 $1,111,111
2020-21 $3,611,111
2021-22 $1,111,111
2022-23 $1,111,111
2023-24 $1,111,111

Andrej Sekera:

BUYOUT CAP HIT
2018-19 $1,611,111
2019-20 $2,611,111
2020-21 $2,611,111
2021-22 $1,611,111
2022-23 $1,611,111
2023-24 $1,611,111

All of Chia's big free agent signings get No-Move Clauses, and all of them get some level of buy-out protection. Lucic is clearly the worst, but that last year of Russell's has a pretty ugly poison pill too. Sekera is my guess for the one LEAST needing a buyout, but between these three guys, we're pretty much screwed in the next expansion draft, and we're losing a high quality player unless somehow we talk these guys in to waiving clauses...

In years to come this Lucic contract is going to make Horcoffs contract look like the Taylor Hall deal.

But hey, apparently, “this is the price you have to pay in todays NHL.” I think this GM needs to know the price you pay in today’s NHL when you hand out horrible deals that cripple the team for so damn long. He walked into a pretty sweet Cap situation. Now it’s a bloody mess.



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g2k wrote on Sun, 11 February 2018 08:37

Adam wrote on Sun, 11 February 2018 00:38

And just because it's fun to see just how badly Chiarelli screwed us over:

Kris Russell:

BUYOUT CAP HIT
2018-19 $611,111
2019-20 $1,111,111
2020-21 $3,611,111
2021-22 $1,111,111
2022-23 $1,111,111
2023-24 $1,111,111

Andrej Sekera:

BUYOUT CAP HIT
2018-19 $1,611,111
2019-20 $2,611,111
2020-21 $2,611,111
2021-22 $1,611,111
2022-23 $1,611,111
2023-24 $1,611,111

All of Chia's big free agent signings get No-Move Clauses, and all of them get some level of buy-out protection. Lucic is clearly the worst, but that last year of Russell's has a pretty ugly poison pill too. Sekera is my guess for the one LEAST needing a buyout, but between these three guys, we're pretty much screwed in the next expansion draft, and we're losing a high quality player unless somehow we talk these guys in to waiving clauses...

In years to come this Lucic contract is going to make Horcoffs contract look like the Taylor Hall deal.

But hey, apparently, “this is the price you have to pay in todays NHL.” I think this GM needs to know the price you pay in today’s NHL when you hand out horrible deals that cripple the team for so damn long. He walked into a pretty sweet Cap situation. Now it’s a bloody mess.


Need to tell Lucic he's gonna be stapled to the 3rd line. If he thinks he's better than that, he can submit his list of teams he's willing to be traded to. Try to move him retaining 2M.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 11 February 2018 09:26

g2k wrote on Sun, 11 February 2018 08:37

Adam wrote on Sun, 11 February 2018 00:38

And just because it's fun to see just how badly Chiarelli screwed us over:

Kris Russell:

BUYOUT CAP HIT
2018-19 $611,111
2019-20 $1,111,111
2020-21 $3,611,111
2021-22 $1,111,111
2022-23 $1,111,111
2023-24 $1,111,111

Andrej Sekera:

BUYOUT CAP HIT
2018-19 $1,611,111
2019-20 $2,611,111
2020-21 $2,611,111
2021-22 $1,611,111
2022-23 $1,611,111
2023-24 $1,611,111

All of Chia's big free agent signings get No-Move Clauses, and all of them get some level of buy-out protection. Lucic is clearly the worst, but that last year of Russell's has a pretty ugly poison pill too. Sekera is my guess for the one LEAST needing a buyout, but between these three guys, we're pretty much screwed in the next expansion draft, and we're losing a high quality player unless somehow we talk these guys in to waiving clauses...

In years to come this Lucic contract is going to make Horcoffs contract look like the Taylor Hall deal.

But hey, apparently, “this is the price you have to pay in todays NHL.” I think this GM needs to know the price you pay in today’s NHL when you hand out horrible deals that cripple the team for so damn long. He walked into a pretty sweet Cap situation. Now it’s a bloody mess.


Need to tell Lucic he's gonna be stapled to the 3rd line. If he thinks he's better than that, he can submit his list of teams he's willing to be traded to. Try to move him retaining 2M.

Let’s hope his wife hates it here.



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 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #54) [message #708969 is a reply to message #708959 ]
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I agree. It's not just on either party, they can all wear it.

If the players truly aren't listening at all and have tuned out the coaching staff then that's a whole different issue.

I'm just saying that professionals shouldn't need a pep talk every night to not come out flat, let the first shot in and lay down and die.

End result doesn't change tonight but glad they came back. Things like that lead me to believe they haven't completely quit on the coaches.



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 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #54) [message #709003 is a reply to message #708969 ]
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ryanc182 wrote on Sat, 10 February 2018 22:47

I agree. It's not just on either party, they can all wear it.

If the players truly aren't listening at all and have tuned out the coaching staff then that's a whole different issue.

I'm just saying that professionals shouldn't need a pep talk every night to not come out flat, let the first shot in and lay down and die.

End result doesn't change tonight but glad they came back. Things like that lead me to believe they haven't completely quit on the coaches.


After watching this fiasco all season I have to say this team has very little heart. I think it's a combination of being let down by the goaltending, poor coaching and management decisions, and maybe even the realization that that other than a few players, this team isn't very good. Makes you mad when time after time they come out seemingly unprepared to compete. The obvious change to make is at the top and then maybe you will be able to sort out what you have. Poor personel management and poor player on ice management add up to where we are in the standings as far as I'm concerned. How do you fix it now after the bad contracts and lack of faith in the coaching staff by the players and fans? Might be a long process! Getting harder to find the positives here. Tough to take after all the years of rebuild hype which has now has fallen flat on it's face. Get that Chiarelli out of Edmonton, please!



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 Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #54) [message #709175 is a reply to message #708941 ]
Tue, 13 February 2018 11:31 Go to previous message
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