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Meh.

2 McPoints. I'll take it.

That was a bad penalty by Pulju to break the game, but whatever, young guy that the coach likes to dangle opportunity in front of like he's a little helpless puppy. Not surprising he struggles a bit when McLellan finally gives him a tiny bite.



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Crapper of a start, get it back, absolutely nothing outside of the McDavid line, give up the requisite killer PP goal, which was a good screen. Sounds about right.


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K.McC#24 wrote on Wed, 07 February 2018 23:11

Crapper of a start, get it back, absolutely nothing outside of the McDavid line, give up the requisite killer PP goal, which was a good screen. Sounds about right.


It was an illegal goal just 2 weeks ago. Talking heads now saying it was the right call because the league changed the interpretation of the rule mid season (over the all-star break).



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Lucic with 00:32 seconds of power play time. Now if they could just get that down to 2 seconds, but I’ll take it.

Letestu 00:00

Moral victories right there. For reals.



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g2k wrote on Wed, 07 February 2018 23:35

Lucic with 00:32 seconds of power play time. Now if they could just get that down to 2 seconds, but I’ll take it.

Letestu 00:00

Moral victories right there. For reals.


Finally the oilers brought someone in with the coaching staff (Coffey) that is as least as smart as oilers online forum people. Progress.

[Updated on: Wed, 07 February 2018 23:51]


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Benning is a no. 8 defenseman. Brutal passes. Slow feet. Not sure why he is out there.
2nd goal was the result of comedy show by Benning and Klefbom. Benning should be dropped down to press box.If Larsson is playing this is a win.

Letestu is done. He dropped off a cliff in performance from last year, liability on PK and PP, looks like a Timbit out there trying to get around. At least someone realized he wasn't helping the PP.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 01:30

Benning is a no. 8 defenseman. Brutal passes. Slow feet. Not sure why he is out there.
2nd goal was the result of comedy show by Benning and Klefbom. Benning should be dropped down to press box.If Larsson is playing this is a win.

Letestu is done. He dropped off a cliff in performance from last year, liability on PK and PP, looks like a Timbit out there trying to get around. At least someone realized he wasn't helping the PP.


I can't argue much with this. Benning has been a train wreck all year. He wasn't the only one that had a giveaway on that second goal but he started it all. He had control then just gives it away and then they were scrambling, then the other errors started. If he makes the simple play, the rest of the giveaways don't happen and the goal isn't scored. Once Larsson comes back, I would have him as a guy that sits. Moving forward, he looks like a guy that can play in your bottom pairing but not any higher than that. I would have no issue if you had to include Benning as part of a package for someone else. A pipe dream I am sure but I would have no issue if they included Benning as part of a package for Faulk. Based on where he has been playing and the comments of a Hurricanes guy late last week on Gregor's show, sounds like Faulk has fallen out of favor with the coach and team.

I guess the silver lining for Benning being crap is we were all worried about his next contract and how much. Unless you trade him, I would still sign him because they aren't in a position to be trading away dmen, especially right handed guy unless another one is coming back. But when it comes to salary, he has zero leverage and if he expects much of a raise, if I was Chia, all I would do is have a highlight package of his too many to count brutal goal causing giveaways and show it too him then try and keep from bursting out laughing if still thinks he deserves a raise. The amount of good games that Benning has had this season is extremely small.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 01:30

Benning is a no. 8 defenseman. Brutal passes. Slow feet. Not sure why he is out there.
2nd goal was the result of comedy show by Benning and Klefbom. Benning should be dropped down to press box.If Larsson is playing this is a win.

Letestu is done. He dropped off a cliff in performance from last year, liability on PK and PP, looks like a Timbit out there trying to get around. At least someone realized he wasn't helping the PP.


Man I hope they trade Letestu soon. Some guys are just so tiresome to watch, and I'm so over Letestu.

I don't know if he's even that much worse in insolation than last year. His value last year was being a PP sniper, but that only worked because other teams didn't pay any attention to him. That situation never lasts if you have some success. Maybe he would have been better on the PK this year if our coaches were not morons. Last year he had 3 even strength goals, and he has 3 again this year. He's basically the same player at evens. Only real differences from last year is his wingers at even have played worse, and he isn't a PP god anymore.

The coaches do keep complimenting his intelligence, and how he's one of the smartest players on the team. So, maybe he actually has some use in how you can watch what he does to fully understand what the coaches are selling to the players. If you do that, you can get more depressed if you want to about how the team plays.

[Updated on: Thu, 08 February 2018 09:09]


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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 01:30

Benning is a no. 8 defenseman. Brutal passes. Slow feet. Not sure why he is out there.
2nd goal was the result of comedy show by Benning and Klefbom. Benning should be dropped down to press box.If Larsson is playing this is a win.

Letestu is done. He dropped off a cliff in performance from last year, liability on PK and PP, looks like a Timbit out there trying to get around. At least someone realized he wasn't helping the PP.


Yeah, there was a thread here that rated the Oilers D in order, I have Benning behind Davidson, ahead of Gryba. Actually when Auvitu plays I haven't seen the mistakes that Benning has made all year.

I don't mind Letestu in 4th line minutes. Just no PP minutes, and preferably not on the PK.

Speaking of dropping off a cliff, how about Pat Maroon. He's working his way down to a 2 year, 2.5 mil AAV contract. He's invisible when he's not playing 5x5 with Connor, which is disturbing, because the Oilers should be actively looking for better options there. Pretty sad, because I loved what he brought last year. He's gone by the deadline, and I don't look to resign him unless it's on the cheap.



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Well it was fun when they tied it. After that PP goal against in the 3rd it was over. I guess it was an entertaining game.

Lucic may be at the end of his usefulness. He's slow and his hands have turned to bricks.

McDavid can't do everything, however I do expect Puljujarvi to take a massive step next season, he's getting it. Now if there was something about that penalty in the 3rd..

Letestu is gone at the trade deadline, I'd think that Maroon too. Benning should just be let go.. I've never seen a player regress so far.



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Rocksteady wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 08:59

Well it was fun when they tied it. After that PP goal against in the 3rd it was over. I guess it was an entertaining game.

Lucic may be at the end of his usefulness. He's slow and his hands have turned to bricks.

McDavid can't do everything, however I do expect Puljujarvi to take a massive step next season, he's getting it. Now if there was something about that penalty in the 3rd..

Letestu is gone at the trade deadline, I'd think that Maroon too. Benning should just be let go.. I've never seen a player regress so far.


They have to trade Letestu. He's a vet, right handed center that can play on your special teams and win you some faceoffs. Guys like him have some value as teams are always looking for centers and depth. I don't see how they can bring him back in a full time role next season.

I think they have to trade Maroon too. It's great that the players think they can still make it. In my opinion, they couldn't lose last night. So they are done. You still want the guys pushing forward but they aren't making it. So they have to get something for Maroon. You can have a contract in the drawer if you want but you can't hold on to a UFA when you aren't making the playoffs and risk him walking for nothing. Unless a team blows your socks off, I wouldn't rush to trade him until the deadline because then as soon as you trade Maroon, you signal to the team you are done.

I agree that Benning has been a disaster this season. You expect a young player to maybe plateau or regress a tiny bit in his second year, the old sophomore jinx but not as much as he has. That being said, the Oilers aren't in a position to be trading away right shooting dmen that can move the puck and skate. If there is a trade that brings you a more established, more expensive guy. Maybe he has fallen out of favor with the coach and needs a fresh start and Benning needs to be part of it so they get a dman back, then do it. But they can't be trading dmen out without another one coming back.

This season has been a disaster. I fully expect the organization to look at everyone from the GM down to the players. Moving forward, maybe you don't fire the head coach but I don't see how you can keep the assistants. I have heard in interviews some of the young dmen, like Nurse, credit Johnson as helping him develop. So maybe if he is good at developing dmen in the NHL, you can keep him on to be a defense coach but his PK sucks. So someone new needs to do that. Woodcroft needs to go. His PP sucks.

For the players, I don't see how you can completely keep the same forward units. Swapping out bit guys like Slep or Pakarinen doesn't do squat. You need to change up the top 9. You know that McDavid, Leon, Nuge, Lucic, Puljujarvi are all here. There is a good chance that probably one or both of Strome and Caggulia are here. So that leaves 2 spots. If Maroon comes back, then you really haven't changed much.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 10:52



I think they have to trade Maroon too. It's great that the players think they can still make it. In my opinion, they couldn't lose last night. So they are done. You still want the guys pushing forward but they aren't making it. So they have to get something for Maroon. You can have a contract in the drawer if you want but you can't hold on to a UFA when you aren't making the playoffs and risk him walking for nothing. Unless a team blows your socks off, I wouldn't rush to trade him until the deadline because then as soon as you trade Maroon, you signal to the team you are done.





Agree 100%.
I know it doesn't happen often but it isn't like they can't resign him in FA. He talks all the time about loving EDM, loving the team, the city, etc. If he wants to come back he still will.
If some team wants to drastically overpay you can walk away from the table and got the assets from the trade.
If the market for him isnt as big as he hopes you sign him to a reasonable deal.



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Rocksteady wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 08:59

Well it was fun when they tied it. After that PP goal against in the 3rd it was over. I guess it was an entertaining game.

Lucic may be at the end of his usefulness. He's slow and his hands have turned to bricks.

McDavid can't do everything, however I do expect Puljujarvi to take a massive step next season, he's getting it. Now if there was something about that penalty in the 3rd..

Letestu is gone at the trade deadline, I'd think that Maroon too. Benning should just be let go.. I've never seen a player regress so far.


That's pretty sad....well it's more than sad, it's alarming because they're only 2 years into his 7x6 deal. I was going to be concerned after the 4th year, but it's coming sooner.



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K.McC#24 wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 14:36

Rocksteady wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 08:59

Well it was fun when they tied it. After that PP goal against in the 3rd it was over. I guess it was an entertaining game.

Lucic may be at the end of his usefulness. He's slow and his hands have turned to bricks.

McDavid can't do everything, however I do expect Puljujarvi to take a massive step next season, he's getting it. Now if there was something about that penalty in the 3rd..

Letestu is gone at the trade deadline, I'd think that Maroon too. Benning should just be let go.. I've never seen a player regress so far.


That's pretty sad....well it's more than sad, it's alarming because they're only 2 years into his 7x6 deal. I was going to be concerned after the 4th year, but it's coming sooner.



Even if we brought him to be a leader, how do you lead when you're game sucks that much ass? The voice of healthy scratched Hendricks would probably carry more weight in the room than Lucic's right now.

Big mistake IMO playing him with McDavid. He was just as bad last year with McDavid and it took him a very long time playing against some weaker comp to look decent again after that disappointment of sucking while playing with his 20 year old hero. Really, Lucic should be playing 2nd/3rd line minutes permanently at this point...with 5 years left on his deal.

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K.McC#24 wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 14:36

Rocksteady wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 08:59

Well it was fun when they tied it. After that PP goal against in the 3rd it was over. I guess it was an entertaining game.

Lucic may be at the end of his usefulness. He's slow and his hands have turned to bricks.

McDavid can't do everything, however I do expect Puljujarvi to take a massive step next season, he's getting it. Now if there was something about that penalty in the 3rd..

Letestu is gone at the trade deadline, I'd think that Maroon too. Benning should just be let go.. I've never seen a player regress so far.


That's pretty sad....well it's more than sad, it's alarming because they're only 2 years into his 7x6 deal. I was going to be concerned after the 4th year, but it's coming sooner.


The GM has tied his hands again.

Just like he did in Boston.



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g2k wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 20:59

K.McC#24 wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 14:36

Rocksteady wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 08:59

Well it was fun when they tied it. After that PP goal against in the 3rd it was over. I guess it was an entertaining game.

Lucic may be at the end of his usefulness. He's slow and his hands have turned to bricks.

McDavid can't do everything, however I do expect Puljujarvi to take a massive step next season, he's getting it. Now if there was something about that penalty in the 3rd..

Letestu is gone at the trade deadline, I'd think that Maroon too. Benning should just be let go.. I've never seen a player regress so far.


That's pretty sad....well it's more than sad, it's alarming because they're only 2 years into his 7x6 deal. I was going to be concerned after the 4th year, but it's coming sooner.


The GM has tied his hands again.

Just like he did in Boston.


At least in Boston he had the excuse of winning a cup and had to pay to keep the core together that got him here. Lots of teams get screwed over by success in a cap system if the timing is bad for new contracts for their best players.

Here, we got 1 playoff round win for our cap hell that will probably last 3-4 years before we can have flexibility to add proven quality depth again.



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Pfft. In 5 more years Lucic is off the books and by then McDavid's contract is probably a bargain. I virtually guarantee we are in the playoff hunt that year.


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OilCanSam wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 13:11

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This was a game of inches, if McDavid makes that backhand sauce over Doughty’s stick we would be talking about a 3-2 win. Instead it was blocked and Pulju takes a bad penalty seconds later.


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WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 14:13

This was a game of inches, if McDavid makes that backhand sauce over Doughty’s stick we would be talking about a 3-2 win. Instead it was blocked and Pulju takes a bad penalty seconds later.

It seems to be the difference between last year and this one- last year, that shot would have somehow gotten past Kuemper. Last year, Testudo played over his head to make the PP potent. It's not a case of him regressing so much as just going back to his more usual numbers.

If Chia/TMac made any huge mistakes, it was in assuming that certain players like Testudo were going to just keep playing like they did rather than realizing that last year was an anomaly. It just seems like most if not all of the Canadian teams that made the playoffs over the past few years have experienced this kind of unnatural spurt of improved play only to come back to earth the next season.

If the front office and coaching staff are to be given more time, they need to recognize this and make changes accordingly. This coming offseason could be a really interesting one, hopefully in a good way.



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WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 14:13

This was a game of inches, if McDavid makes that backhand sauce over Doughty’s stick we would be talking about a 3-2 win. Instead it was blocked and Pulju takes a bad penalty seconds later.


You make a good point. Oilers got the PP goal on a good shot by Leon. I believe it was their next PP, they move it around, Leon gets an even better shot off but Kuemper makes an amazing save. Half an inch either way and it s probably in. Last year, that shot was in. Last year, Talbot stops that Kempe shot. It was a good shot but last year he was able to bail out the team when they made a mistake. This year for whatever reason most nights, Talbot isn't able to make that big save so any mistakes they make is in the net. I heard the number but I can't remember what it is but the Oilers have been scored on by the first shot of the game some ridiculous amount this year. It wasn't like that last year. It has to be deflating to the guys on the bench to be chasing the game barely 2 mins in over and over again. Is some of that on the players, sure but lots of it is on Talbot. Make a bloody save.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 16:00

WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 14:13

This was a game of inches, if McDavid makes that backhand sauce over Doughty’s stick we would be talking about a 3-2 win. Instead it was blocked and Pulju takes a bad penalty seconds later.


You make a good point. Oilers got the PP goal on a good shot by Leon. I believe it was their next PP, they move it around, Leon gets an even better shot off but Kuemper makes an amazing save. Half an inch either way and it s probably in. Last year, that shot was in. Last year, Talbot stops that Kempe shot. It was a good shot but last year he was able to bail out the team when they made a mistake. This year for whatever reason most nights, Talbot isn't able to make that big save so any mistakes they make is in the net. I heard the number but I can't remember what it is but the Oilers have been scored on by the first shot of the game some ridiculous amount this year. It wasn't like that last year. It has to be deflating to the guys on the bench to be chasing the game barely 2 mins in over and over again. Is some of that on the players, sure but lots of it is on Talbot. Make a bloody save.


If I'm not mistaken, last night was the 9th time that Oilers goaltending let in the first shot this year. If that isn't some kind of record by a country mile, I'd be shocked. That's just terrible.





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WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 08 February 2018 14:13

This was a game of inches, if McDavid makes that backhand sauce over Doughty’s stick we would be talking about a 3-2 win. Instead it was blocked and Pulju takes a bad penalty seconds later.


You make a good point. Oilers got the PP goal on a good shot by Leon. I believe it was their next PP, they move it around, Leon gets an even better shot off but Kuemper makes an amazing save. Half an inch either way and it s probably in. Last year, that shot was in. Last year, Talbot stops that Kempe shot. It was a good shot but last year he was able to bail out the team when they made a mistake. This year for whatever reason most nights, Talbot isn't able to make that big save so any mistakes they make is in the net. I heard the number but I can't remember what it is but the Oilers have been scored on by the first shot of the game some ridiculous amount this year. It wasn't like that last year. It has to be deflating to the guys on the bench to be chasing the game barely 2 mins in over and over again. Is some of that on the players, sure but lots of it is on Talbot. Make a bloody save.


If I'm not mistaken, last night was the 9th time that Oilers goaltending let in the first shot this year. If that isn't some kind of record by a country mile, I'd be shocked. That's just terrible.





1st shot in the 1st period, and 1st shot in the 2nd period.

Hate to blame goalie coaches, but Talbot and LB are showing some common traits. Can make the great saves in close due to their athleticism, but their puck tracking and and positioning seems crap for the longer range stuff.



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