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Gryba rockin that 28% corsi. McLellan deserved this one. Davidson and Ellis should have been playing tonight. Sorry to use the power of hindsight, but honestly, we all saw this coming. You get 1 good game out of Gryba, you take your chips off the table and run as quicky as you can and never look back if you have the chance to do so.

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So, when does the “Fire TMac!” bandwagon really start rolling? Only after the team is officially eliminated from the playoffs?


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Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:11

So, when does the “Fire TMac!” bandwagon really start rolling? Only after the team is officially eliminated from the playoffs?


Seems like the only move Chia has to play at this point in the season.

Struggling to think of something our coaches have done well this year.

All special situation hockey is abysmal, except 3v3.
Team is never ready for games
Team can never make adjustments and other teams consistently are able to completely reverse momentum in games on us after an intermission
McLellan is totally incapable of working the refs. We are just fodder at this point for other teams from the refs perspective. They are happy to give us the short end every night and call it a day.
Pretty mediocre at line matching, other teams constantly get the jump on us in that respect

Honestly TMac and Woodcroft...


I guess McLellan is good at getting a laugh from the Edmonton media by insulting analytics nerds. That is one thing I will give him.



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Are you freaking kidding me?! Does this team never practice playing with their net empty?!?! An absolute joke of a franchise... angryfire

It's been years since I've seen this team tie up a game with their net empty. What an embarrassment!



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Oiler76 wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:11

Are you freaking kidding me?! Does this team never practice playing with their net empty?!?! An absolute joke of a franchise... angryfire

It's been years since I've seen this team tie up a game with their net empty. What an embarrassment!


We look like what Vegas was supposed to look like. Bunch of guys that have never played together before just winging it and trying to figure it all out on the fly.



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Special teams.

SPECIAL teams.

SPECIAL TEAMS.

How has no one been fired?



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vsove wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:13

Special teams.

SPECIAL teams.

SPECIAL TEAMS.

How has no one been fired?


There seems to be a feedback loop going on with Letestu. The worse the PP looks, the more the team tries to get Letestu the puck so he can be the playmaker on the PP. ANd of course that makes the PP even worse. Soon our PP is just going to implode into itself and suck our solar system into the black hole it creates.



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Completely regressed to the state two or three years ago. That was a winnable game for any half decent team with half an effort.


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I was at the game and it was absolutely winnable. Philly played like a team with one win in 11 games and the Oilers managed to out-suck them.


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Just can't figure why this team, game after game doesn't look ready to start the game! That has to be on the coaching staff! Sloppy play for much of it and taking too many penalties, killing their offense. Not many players on this team looked competent and the whole team looks slow! Piss poor game!


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overdue wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:15

Just can't figure why this team, game after game doesn't look ready to start the game! That has to be on the coaching staff! Sloppy play for much of it and taking too many penalties, killing their offense. Not many players on this team looked competent and the whole team looks slow! Piss poor game!

Take a moment and consider what the Oilers are good at... I'll wait.



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Getting the flu?


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I think I'm done even watching out of self-hatred. I have better things to do with my time.


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Lol. A caller on 1260 just said the Oilers exist for the sole purpose of allowing the owner to leverage business deals. It's, uh, hard to argue against that thought using facts.


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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:34

Lol. A caller on 1260 just said the Oilers exist for the sole purpose of allowing the owner to leverage business deals. It's, uh, hard to argue against that thought using facts.


Leverage business deals, and hang out with his childhood hockey heroes.

I'll see you all around game 50. I'm taking the next couple of months off for my own sanity.



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vsove wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:34

Lol. A caller on 1260 just said the Oilers exist for the sole purpose of allowing the owner to leverage business deals. It's, uh, hard to argue against that thought using facts.


Leverage business deals, and hang out with his childhood hockey heroes.

I'll see you all around game 50. I'm taking the next couple of months off for my own sanity.

Hey you’re back!

Oh ok. Bye then.



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g2k wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 23:00

vsove wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:34

Lol. A caller on 1260 just said the Oilers exist for the sole purpose of allowing the owner to leverage business deals. It's, uh, hard to argue against that thought using facts.


Leverage business deals, and hang out with his childhood hockey heroes.

I'll see you all around game 50. I'm taking the next couple of months off for my own sanity.

Hey you’re back!

Oh ok. Bye then.


If I say it enough, maybe I can actually stop watching.



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vsove wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 23:03

g2k wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 23:00

vsove wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:34

Lol. A caller on 1260 just said the Oilers exist for the sole purpose of allowing the owner to leverage business deals. It's, uh, hard to argue against that thought using facts.


Leverage business deals, and hang out with his childhood hockey heroes.

I'll see you all around game 50. I'm taking the next couple of months off for my own sanity.

Hey you’re back!

Oh ok. Bye then.


If I say it enough, maybe I can actually stop watching.

The bad car accident scenario.

I get that.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 21:34

Lol. A caller on 1260 just said the Oilers exist for the sole purpose of allowing the owner to leverage business deals. It's, uh, hard to argue against that thought using facts.


Hopefully he has a big project coming up soon he needs to squeeze the city for.



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nullterm wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 21:34

Lol. A caller on 1260 just said the Oilers exist for the sole purpose of allowing the owner to leverage business deals. It's, uh, hard to argue against that thought using facts.


Hopefully he has a big project coming up soon he needs to squeeze the city for.

We're collectively too stupid to notice and do anything about it. He'll be able to squeeze us until he's bored. Maybe he can redevelop the LRT system or something.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:47

nullterm wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 21:34

Lol. A caller on 1260 just said the Oilers exist for the sole purpose of allowing the owner to leverage business deals. It's, uh, hard to argue against that thought using facts.


Hopefully he has a big project coming up soon he needs to squeeze the city for.

We're collectively too stupid to notice and do anything about it. He'll be able to squeeze us until he's bored. Maybe he can redevelop the LRT system or something.


He just bought a house in Malibu for $120 million- he's probably asking the City of Edmonton to chip in $350 million for improvements.



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stemhovlichski wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 23:04

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:47

nullterm wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:43

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 21:34

Lol. A caller on 1260 just said the Oilers exist for the sole purpose of allowing the owner to leverage business deals. It's, uh, hard to argue against that thought using facts.


Hopefully he has a big project coming up soon he needs to squeeze the city for.

We're collectively too stupid to notice and do anything about it. He'll be able to squeeze us until he's bored. Maybe he can redevelop the LRT system or something.


He just bought a house in Malibu for $120 million- he's probably asking the City of Edmonton to chip in $350 million for improvements.

Audibly laughed. The new driveway and LED lights aren't going to buy themselves.



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Oilers are currently on pace for 70 points. 70! That's with McDavid playing every game. Take him away and this is easily the worst team in Oilers history.


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Goose wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 22:39

Oilers are currently on pace for 70 points. 70! That's with McDavid playing every game. Take him away and this is easily the worst team in Oilers history.


2014-5 would argue that point with you.



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You'd think there would be some urgency in their game with a chance to close the gap a bit but they just continue to come out flat and sloppy. It was really a continuation of the 3rd period against Calgary. Can't blame the goaltender for that performance! They'd be dead last without McDavid.


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The team is NEVER ready to start a hockey game. Then it’s followed “seat of the pants” structure. Is this the coaches game plan? Not likely, so I only have to assume they are not listening.

Then it’s, “let’s get the band back together” in the 3rd period.

Can’t fire the entire team...

So grateful I didn’t actually pay for those club seats. I would be seething.



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I thought Puljujarvi was the strongest forechecker by a mile tonight. I thought Draisatl was doing a bit of public skating tonight. Dare I say he wasn’t even skating for Leon?

I fully expected the coach to hit the panic button in the 3rd period, and I was let down when it happened. I guess we are now at the point that if he didn’t put them back together and we lose like we did tonight, he will still be questioned. Especially when you are notorious for screwing your lines around in knee jerk fashion all season long.



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g2k wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 23:24

I thought Puljujarvi was the strongest forechecker by a mile tonight. I thought Draisatl was doing a bit of public skating tonight. Dare I say he wasn’t even skating for Leon?

I fully expected the coach to hit the panic button in the 3rd period, and I was let down when it happened. I guess we are now at the point that if he didn’t put them back together and we lose like we did tonight, he will still be questioned. Especially when you are notorious for screwing your lines around in knee jerk fashion all season long.

If you're playing cards and you can only think of one strategy, you're going to use that strategy a lot.



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g2k wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 23:24

I thought Puljujarvi was the strongest forechecker by a mile tonight. I thought Draisatl was doing a bit of public skating tonight. Dare I say he wasn’t even skating for Leon?

I fully expected the coach to hit the panic button in the 3rd period, and I was let down when it happened. I guess we are now at the point that if he didn’t put them back together and we lose like we did tonight, he will still be questioned. Especially when you are notorious for screwing your lines around in knee jerk fashion all season long.


I was also at the game tonight. First time this season. In the third period, when Draisaitl hopped the boards with McDavid, I laughed and said "Well, I guess the coach is out of ideas for the night."

It's always interesting to be in the building, because it's so much easier to see the systems at play in the rink than it is on TV. The penalty kill jumped out at me tonight. The Oilers have modified the box, so that the front penalty killer on the side that the PP is setting up is skewed out towards the boards. They've done this to try to take away the point shot - like that pass back and forth between McDavid and Klefbom that almost every team lets us have. The Oilers PK, at least tonight, seemed designed to impede that play. It's pretty curious though, because that's not the most dangerous play there is. It is a commonly made pass, but mostly because it's what is being given to PPs, not because it's the most desirable. If they do try to force it and you pick it off, then you're off to the races with a 2-on-1, but if you have a capable passer on the half-wall, then he's going to just try to find the other seam.

It didn't cost the Oilers tonight. They did pick off a pass and score on the resulting 2-on-1, and the PP goal against was a play where the defenceman did have control and made a really nice play, faking the shot and then making a very good pass. Still, it doesn't seem a recipe for success, and at times it almost looked like the Oiler in that skewed position was taken out of the play entirely by simply faking a pass.

The Oilers powerplay was a mess tonight. It looked like the Oilers have new marching orders, but they really aren't sure what it's supposed to look like. There were a couple times that players were standing right beside each other, and I really don't understand swinging McDavid to the left side boards if you're using right-shot Matt Benning on that unit. Tonight looked like the dress rehearsal for some new plan. Everything was disjointed and ugly and the group rarely looked threatening on the PP. I still don't know why they aren't trying Puljujarvi in that Letestu spot.

I've criticized McLellan for being too conservative in the past, but he has changed up his attack from last year. There's much less of the rattle it around the boards and hope for the best out at center. There's still a lot of emphasis on being behind the puck when the other team gets it, but the rush seems to be the one place he's taken the shackles off the team, and everyone seems to be aggressively pushing forward. It might swing too far the other way - the third goal was a really good example, everyone pushes forward, there's a bad pass to Maroon, who fails to realize and track the puck and one good pass later they have a breakaway and score.

Nurse transports the puck very well to center, but much less well in to the opposing team's zone, and he's not making great passes often at the end of his rushes. Long weak shots aren't a good use of the puck either.

Lucic was hilariously bad with the puck tonight. I am not sure which is worse, when he handles the puck like a hand grenade and swats it away the second its in reach, or when he decides he's a dangler and tries to skate with it. He was dreadful tonight. I'd have rather seen Maroon get reunited with McDavid on the left side, rather than have Draisaitl replace Puljujarvi on the right.

The team's lost to so many bad teams this year. I don't know how we can hope to recover when we can't even beat the minnows. So far this year, we've lost to Ottawa (currently 27th overall) , Carolina (23rd), Philadelphia (24th - twice), Detroit (25th), and Buffalo (31st).

It's disheartening.

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[quote title=Adam wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 23:53]
g2k wrote on Wed, 06 December 2017 23:24


It's disheartening.



That pretty much says it all.

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OK First I have to admit I only watched the latter part of the first period and the second period, but here is what I took from the game.
- I think this team is plying to get rid of someone, Coaching staff or something. Even McDavid doesn't look like he is playing to his standards.
-Gryba is AHL at best. Time to put that to bed and never let him see the light of day again, sorry.
-Even in the interview he had the look of "I really don't give a crap" Oh and lose the beard dude.
-Still don't get the hate for Russell, but I am not the smartest guy in the room
-STOP THE DROP PASS. I think I counted 8 in a row that didn't work.
-Drai is almost the same attitude that McDavid has I think
-In the 3 seasons that this coaching staff have been here, why have they not figured out the PP. Fire that coach at the very least. You have the best player in the NHL and you only can manage 1 shot.
-I am losing interest in this team faster than I think I have ever before. When it got to 2-1 I knew there was no coming back, there is no structure to the game, it looked like a tire fire out there.

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 Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #28) [message #704894 is a reply to message #704893 ]
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Only watched part of the 2nd and the 3rd, but all I saw was a steaming pile of "meh"
Didn't really seem like anyone was into that game. Just seemed like everyone went flat after Brossoit let in that softy. Or maybe they were flat before that too...what was it, 7 shots in the 1st?

Not laying that loss on Brossoit - he looked decent for the most part, but you cannot keep letting in soft goals like that every single game, especially with how fragile this team seems to be.

I'm probably done watching this "team" for a while. Might check in again once Reggie gets back to see if that makes a difference, though by then it'll likely be too late to make a difference to our playoff chances.



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 Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #28) [message #704895 is a reply to message #704894 ]
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I try to stay away from here so i'm not so negative. Went to the game live, against my better judgement, and wow that game was boring (first 1.5 period was slow).

I've never seen a NHL team pass so poorly, how do you always miss the pass to someone.
I've never seen a game where so many players got thrown out of the face off, mostly us but it was pretty predictable that the every other draw someone would get tossed.

2nd philly goal our defense was sooooo slow coming back, I think Auvitu. It was bad.
Benning looked terrible out there as well. It's pretty bad that our defense has come to playing Auvitu, Benning, Gryba......

This team is bad, special teams is brutal, they need to have a cleaning of management. It's sad that I pay for season tickets and have no interest in going. They killed a part of me inside.



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 Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #28) [message #704897 is a reply to message #704894 ]
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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 07 December 2017 08:13

Only watched part of the 2nd and the 3rd, but all I saw was a steaming pile of "meh"
Didn't really seem like anyone was into that game. Just seemed like everyone went flat after Brossoit let in that softy. Or maybe they were flat before that too...what was it, 7 shots in the 1st?

Not laying that loss on Brossoit - he looked decent for the most part, but you cannot keep letting in soft goals like that every single game, especially with how fragile this team seems to be.

I'm probably done watching this "team" for a while. Might check in again once Reggie gets back to see if that makes a difference, though by then it'll likely be too late to make a difference to our playoff chances.


If I recall correctly, that 2nd goal had a pretty perfect screen by Gryba, who was doing nothing useful trying to cover the shooter (aside from making him invisible to LB) after earlier planting himself into the ground like a goon as an airborn puck came to him inside the offensive blue line. He just stands completely still and lets it go by him. Either get up against the boards to try to stop it with your whole body, or start skating your butt back to your end dude. Don't stand completely still and try to stop a flying puck with the end of your stick. He's just so bad, and that's another fireable offense for McLellan playing him when he was given a good alternative.

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 Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #28) [message #704902 is a reply to message #704897 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 07 December 2017 09:02

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 07 December 2017 08:13

Only watched part of the 2nd and the 3rd, but all I saw was a steaming pile of "meh"
Didn't really seem like anyone was into that game. Just seemed like everyone went flat after Brossoit let in that softy. Or maybe they were flat before that too...what was it, 7 shots in the 1st?

Not laying that loss on Brossoit - he looked decent for the most part, but you cannot keep letting in soft goals like that every single game, especially with how fragile this team seems to be.

I'm probably done watching this "team" for a while. Might check in again once Reggie gets back to see if that makes a difference, though by then it'll likely be too late to make a difference to our playoff chances.


If I recall correctly, that 2nd goal had a pretty perfect screen by Gryba, who was doing nothing useful trying to cover the shooter (aside from making him invisible to LB) after earlier planting himself into the ground like a goon as an airborn puck came to him inside the offensive blue line. He just stands completely still and lets it go by him. Either get up against the boards to try to stop it with your whole body, or start skating your butt back to your end dude. Don't stand completely still and try to stop a flying puck with the end of your stick. He's just so bad, and that's another fireable offense for McLellan playing him when he was given a good alternative.

I guess but it was above the faceoff dot. So it was a 40+ foot wrist shot on the ice by a 4th line winger. It wasn't a one timer where he had to move across the ice quickly. It wasn't a tip or suddenly change directions at the last second. It wasn't Tarasenko popping the water bottle off. It was Dale Weiss. If you can't stop a 40 ft Dale Weiss shot, there is a problem. It's especially bad when you are coming of 2 consecutive starts where you have given up 3 or 4 bad goals in the last 2 games.

Brossoit reminds me a lot of Dubnyk. A goalie with good size, lots of ability and at times looks great but is a lock to give up at least 1 bad goal a game and in my opinion is not a goalie who the team trusts so it affects how the team plays. The coach and team can say all they want how they have faith in LB but I have no doubt in my mind that as soon as that lousy goal went in, I am sure there were lots of guys that went "Oh come on, not again" in there minds. As I said, I am not blaming the loss on LB, the Oilers effort sucked last night but he doesn't help them win either. I have zero faith that LB can lead the Oilers into Montreal, go head to head with Price on a nationally televised game and give them a shot to win. The way Price is playing, you are thinking it's 2 goals against him max. Considering that LB is a lock to spot the Habs at least 1 freebie, they don't have to do much to get that second goal.

My guess for the Habs game. Based on last nights comments and the talk about how the leaders a.k.a the vets need to fix this. The Oilers will have this "meeting" between all the leaders about their crap starts so they come out flying. Oilers score first (shockingly), dominate most of the game but Price goes Price and stands on his head. LB won't get a lot of work. LB gives up a crap goal and another goal where a not overly dangerous shot is taken but he doesn't handle the rebound properly, spits it out up the middle and it is banged home. Then the Habs score an empty netter to win 3-1. The talk will be that Brossoit played "well" except for the 1 bad goal and the bad rebound and the Oilers deserved to win but Price stole one.



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 Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #28) [message #704904 is a reply to message #704902 ]
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Yeah, I still see Brossoit as more Joaquin Gage than Devan Dubnyk. I don't see him ever being in the Vezina conversation. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see strong fundamentals there. With Dubnyk, he was always decent. I actually think the "bad goal" narrative with Dubnyk - while it certainly happened - was overblown. It wasn't nearly this often.


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 Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #28) [message #704906 is a reply to message #704904 ]
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Adam wrote on Thu, 07 December 2017 11:40

Yeah, I still see Brossoit as more Joaquin Gage than Devan Dubnyk. I don't see him ever being in the Vezina conversation. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see strong fundamentals there. With Dubnyk, he was always decent. I actually think the "bad goal" narrative with Dubnyk - while it certainly happened - was overblown. It wasn't nearly this often.

Dubnyk was mostly a passable option for the season before DERF kicked in. Once he went full DERF the bad goal thing was accurate. He was letting in a goal from outside the blueline with shocking regularity.



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 Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #28) [message #704907 is a reply to message #704906 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 07 December 2017 11:55

Adam wrote on Thu, 07 December 2017 11:40

Yeah, I still see Brossoit as more Joaquin Gage than Devan Dubnyk. I don't see him ever being in the Vezina conversation. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see strong fundamentals there. With Dubnyk, he was always decent. I actually think the "bad goal" narrative with Dubnyk - while it certainly happened - was overblown. It wasn't nearly this often.

Dubnyk was mostly a passable option for the season before DERF kicked in. Once he went full DERF the bad goal thing was accurate. He was letting in a goal from outside the blueline with shocking regularity.


True - He had something like the 14th best goalie stats on the 24th best team in the league
during the Krueger era and then MacT and Eakins did a number on him and almost ended his career. Gagner too. And Schultz...and Yakupov.

How many useful players have we flushed for nothing now? And how many of the others we flushed could have become more useful players if they hadn't landed in Edmonton?



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