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 Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702297]
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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702305 is a reply to message #702297 ]
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We are bad at any special game situation. 5v4, 4v5, 6v5.


"The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
-Kevin Lowe, April 2013


"Next year (15/16) I would forecast as another developmental year"
- #2, April 2015

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702306 is a reply to message #702305 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Sat, 11 November 2017 12:43

We are bad at any special game situation. 5v4, 4v5, 6v5.

Not 3 v 3! Pond hockey gimmicks for the win!



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702308 is a reply to message #702306 ]
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Oiler76  is currently offline Oiler76
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Can anyone tell me the last time this team scored a goal with their net empty?

What an embarrassment... doh



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702310 is a reply to message #702306 ]
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NZ Oiler Fan  is currently offline NZ Oiler Fan
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So special teams cost us yet another game. How many more points are they going to piss away before doing something about it?


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702311 is a reply to message #702310 ]
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Our special teams are special alright.............. in a Olympic kinda way.


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702312 is a reply to message #702306 ]
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Xombie wrote on Sat, 11 November 2017 13:44

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 11 November 2017 12:43

We are bad at any special game situation. 5v4, 4v5, 6v5.

Not 3 v 3! Pond hockey gimmicks for the win!


We still find ways now and then to f that up too. Playing Lucic, Letestu or other slowpokes for no apparent reason.



"The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
-Kevin Lowe, April 2013


"Next year (15/16) I would forecast as another developmental year"
- #2, April 2015

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702309 is a reply to message #702305 ]
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We are not gonna make the playoffs. What does Woodcroft do? I think MacT would be better to coach the special teams. Todd Nelson, Ralph Kruger, Dave Tippet, geez Cal Nicholson cant be as stupidly loyal as K. Lowe was to bad personell can he?


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And it was yet another game that we took 5-10 mins to even start looking like an NHL team. Preparation FTW.


"The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
-Kevin Lowe, April 2013


"Next year (15/16) I would forecast as another developmental year"
- #2, April 2015

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702314 is a reply to message #702313 ]
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These regulation losses are going to kill the season. The Oilers need a home and home against Arizona.


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702340 is a reply to message #702313 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Sat, 11 November 2017 15:59

And it was yet another game that we took 5-10 mins to even start looking like an NHL team. Preparation FTW.


Special teams sucked.

Lucic sucked.

Defense sucked.

Shots on goal sucked.

Playoffs seems like a pipe dream at this point...



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702320 is a reply to message #702297 ]
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Another brutal game by Klefbum.


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702328 is a reply to message #702320 ]
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He didn't need to gift them the empty better


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702329 is a reply to message #702328 ]
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5 seconds left with the puck in your zone, I am firing the puck at the goalie too. Nothing left to lose at that point.


When Peter Chiarelli is fired, Kevin Lowe will be involved in finding a replacement. Fire them all. Bring us REAL change.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702330 is a reply to message #702329 ]
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How bad does the PK need to be before they fire the special teams coach? We have the worst special teams in the league by like 5 %points. A sub 70% PK almost 1/4 of the way through the season.

On the subject of crappy coaching - has McLellan ever taken any responsibility at all for the team's repeated poor starts?



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702331 is a reply to message #702330 ]
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Mike wrote on Sat, 11 November 2017 19:20

How bad does the PK need to be before they fire the special teams coach? We have the worst special teams in the league by like 5 %points. A sub 70% PK almost 1/4 of the way through the season.

On the subject of crappy coaching - has McLellan ever taken any responsibility at all for the team's repeated poor starts?


Has anyone heard him take responsibility for anything ever? I’ve seen him blame players a lot, but he never even acts as a shield for his team.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702336 is a reply to message #702330 ]
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Mike wrote on Sat, 11 November 2017 19:20

How bad does the PK need to be before they fire the special teams coach? We have the worst special teams in the league by like 5 %points. A sub 70% PK almost 1/4 of the way through the season.

On the subject of crappy coaching - has McLellan ever taken any responsibility at all for the team's repeated poor starts?


100% serious, give Krueger a bunch of random AHLers, and he could probably ice a better PK than what our team has been doing this season. It's absolutely ridiculous how easily teams are able to treat our constantly confused PKers like pylons.

At the moment our PK % would be the worst of the cap age. 4th worst since PK% was tracked (79-80 and 83-83 kings teams and 78-79 washington team were worse). Florida this year is actually close to us (2% higher), but they have 4 shorthanded goals as well, we have 0.

[Updated on: Sat, 11 November 2017 23:33]


"The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
-Kevin Lowe, April 2013


"Next year (15/16) I would forecast as another developmental year"
- #2, April 2015

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702332 is a reply to message #702320 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 11 November 2017 15:23

Another brutal game by Klefbum.


Agreed, on ice for all 3 GA...the guy is absolutely killing us right now and costing us points. Twice he completely gave up the shooting the lane on a 2-1 and still couldn't defend the pass. I'm more lenient on goals 2 and 3 since he was on the PK but still terrible coverage.

He looks completely lost out there compared to last year...brutal gap control and zero defensive awareness. Just like the Hall goal vs NJ when he completely backed up into Talbot and covered absolutely no one.

This loss is on him and Maroon to some extent as well.



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Gator21 wrote on Sat, 11 November 2017 20:45

Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 11 November 2017 15:23

Another brutal game by Klefbum.


Agreed, on ice for all 3 GA...the guy is absolutely killing us right now and costing us points. Twice he completely gave up the shooting the lane on a 2-1 and still couldn't defend the pass. I'm more lenient on goals 2 and 3 since he was on the PK but still terrible coverage.

He looks completely lost out there compared to last year...brutal gap control and zero defensive awareness. Just like the Hall goal vs NJ when he completely backed up into Talbot and covered absolutely no one.

This loss is on him and Maroon to some extent as well.


He had multiple periods like this last year. Only, last year we could drop him to the 3rd pair and Sek would carry more of the load, and Nurse would bump up. He would get his crap back together on the 3rd pair with Benning against some weak comp, and work his way back up again. This year, no choice but to keep riding him into the ground. Russell-Benning as a 2nd pair is a disaster too. Not sure McLellan wants to try that again.



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-Kevin Lowe, April 2013


"Next year (15/16) I would forecast as another developmental year"
- #2, April 2015

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702334 is a reply to message #702332 ]
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Gator21 wrote on Sat, 11 November 2017 19:45

Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 11 November 2017 15:23

Another brutal game by Klefbum.


Agreed, on ice for all 3 GA...the guy is absolutely killing us right now and costing us points. Twice he completely gave up the shooting the lane on a 2-1 and still couldn't defend the pass. I'm more lenient on goals 2 and 3 since he was on the PK but still terrible coverage.

He looks completely lost out there compared to last year...brutal gap control and zero defensive awareness. Just like the Hall goal vs NJ when he completely backed up into Talbot and covered absolutely no one.

This loss is on him and Maroon to some extent as well.


Even when Klefbum is carrying the puck he's looking up the ice and looks totally confused, skates stop moving, fore-check is on him, panics, then fires the puck at some forward covered by two guys hoping for a low chance pass, and then its going the other way, inevitable own-zone fire drill, hilarity ensues. He had a few of those tonight. Next game compare him carrying the puck, to how Larsson and Nurse bring out the puck and make that first pass.

Low puck sense. The guy is turning into a defensive liability.




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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ NY Rangers (Game #16) [message #702335 is a reply to message #702297 ]
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I thought they played well and despite the utterly stupid penalty Maroon took which cost them (and he has been bad himself this year, he should feel privileged to be playing in the spot he is), I believe they deserved a better fate, a point at least.

Pulju looked like he fits in, although just one game, but was important for him to have a game like that right off the bat.
Klefbom was the weakest link on D, especially on the PK, I still have faith though, he had a very slow start last year If I recall as well. The guy is just fighting it.
RNH looks like he may be having a career defining moment in terms of turning a corner, looks like the second best player on the team... (aside from Talbot of course)
The special teams, what the heck is going on? The PP is coming along a bit, I would personally love it if they axed the entire coaching staff though, not just Woodcroft, who is a chump.

I think the team is getting better and they are gaining confidence, however it’s going to be an extremely tough season, I think it could continue to be like this for the rest of the way, where they don’t ever really get streaking, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t a good team, in fact, as long as they keep winning more than losing and don’t really have a bad slump for the rest of the way, it could really benefit them in preparation for playoffs. But that is a very long ways away of course.

And good god would it ever be amazing if this team could have a proper, offensive, puck moving defenseman, would be a game changer... they need one badly!

Don’t get too worked up over this one guys and gals, they could’ve easily won it and were the better team, it was an early game, and they weren’t going to sweep the metro div given their recent struggles, it’s building steam with a grain of salt. Will have to win in spite of bad coaching staff and some obvious holes..

Onto the next one.

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