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I guess it can't be a true decade+ of darkness if you don't at least try to finish 31st once.

Team has no identity again. Once every 10 games we try to play the bully game and it usually works. But most of the time, just super light and clueless out of sync hockey with guys missing defensive assignments all night long. And seems we are resorting to Eakins tactics, favouring shot volume over trying to create chances in the slot. And generally brutal goaltending doesn't help at all either.

No idea what to say about special teams. Krueger could make a team full of turds look like masters of the PP and PK. Current staff, waiting for Letestu to save the day on the PP I guess? And I guess their PK game plan was 100% dependent on Pouliot? Not sure how that is possible.

[Updated on: Sun, 05 November 2017 16:29]


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We won the shots and faceoff totals. That counts for something right?

They need to put together a winning streak here soon before we yet again find ourselves out of the playoffs by the start of December.

Katz - fire the lot of them! Friggin embarrassing.



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This is a terrible team. I can't watch this garbage anymore.


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Mike wrote on Sun, 05 November 2017 16:28

We won the shots and faceoff totals. That counts for something right?

They need to put together a winning streak here soon before we yet again find ourselves out of the playoffs by the start of December.

Katz - fire the lot of them! Friggin embarrassing.


Also, Kris Russell is among the league leaders in blocks!

And Larsson has lots of hits!

And the Oilers continue to be one of the worst teams in the league. Ugh!



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 Re: Review: Detroit @ Edmonton (Game #13) [message #701819 is a reply to message #701770 ]
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Adam wrote on Sun, 05 November 2017 16:40

Mike wrote on Sun, 05 November 2017 16:28

We won the shots and faceoff totals. That counts for something right?

They need to put together a winning streak here soon before we yet again find ourselves out of the playoffs by the start of December.

Katz - fire the lot of them! Friggin embarrassing.


Also, Kris Russell is among the league leaders in blocks!

And Larsson has lots of hits!

And the Oilers continue to be one of the worst teams in the league. Ugh!


I don't usually log in, just come here to read everyone else's complaints. But the Oil are in serious trouble. Chiarelli has traded away so much offense that they can't score and yet we are somehow still atrocious in our own zone. I look at Ottawa, with a superstar in karlsson, making hockey trades (First Turris, then Bobby Ryan, now Duchene) and I haven't heard about them being in cap trouble. And let's not forget they made it further than the Oil in the playoffs last year.

My biggest fear though is that they'll fire Chiarelli and promote his #2 to the GM chair again.



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 Re: Review: Detroit @ Edmonton (Game #13) [message #701824 is a reply to message #701819 ]
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 08:13

Adam wrote on Sun, 05 November 2017 16:40

Mike wrote on Sun, 05 November 2017 16:28

We won the shots and faceoff totals. That counts for something right?

They need to put together a winning streak here soon before we yet again find ourselves out of the playoffs by the start of December.

Katz - fire the lot of them! Friggin embarrassing.


Also, Kris Russell is among the league leaders in blocks!

And Larsson has lots of hits!

And the Oilers continue to be one of the worst teams in the league. Ugh!


I don't usually log in, just come here to read everyone else's complaints. But the Oil are in serious trouble. Chiarelli has traded away so much offense that they can't score and yet we are somehow still atrocious in our own zone. I look at Ottawa, with a superstar in karlsson, making hockey trades (First Turris, then Bobby Ryan, now Duchene) and I haven't heard about them being in cap trouble. And let's not forget they made it further than the Oil in the playoffs last year.

My biggest fear though is that they'll fire Chiarelli and promote his #2 to the GM chair again.


This is a major concern. The Oilers actually believe it's a strength that they have three other former GMs in the room with Chiarelli. You hear the media guys parrot this if they're ever pushed on why Lowe, MacT and Howson are all still there. "These guys have been around the NHL for ages, why wouldn't you want their input?"

And so you have to worry that the first instinct to defend the group will be to fire one person - possibly Chiarelli, and promote someone else in to the hot seat - with an excellent chance that that is either Scott Howson or Keith Gretzky.

If the ownership was really concerned with building a winner, it's probably time to take them all out - from Bob Nicholson on down. We need a fresh start at the top - one not poisoned by all the losing, nepotism and blame-shifting. No more Buddies of Lowe...they all need to go.

But then, firing Lowe and company might make it more difficult to do (and sell tickets for) alumni events every 12-18 months...



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Adam wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 09:49



And so you have to worry that the first instinct to defend the group will be to fire one person - possibly Chiarelli, and promote someone else in to the hot seat - with an excellent chance that that is either Scott Howson or Keith Gretzky.




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Adam wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 07:49

- from Bob Nicholson on down.


Then how do you recover the revenues from lost Bobby Nick burger sales?



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 Re: Review: Detroit @ Edmonton (Game #13) [message #701765 is a reply to message #701763 ]
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What a gong show of a team.

Just embarrassing all around.



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Old school coaching time. Tie some milk crates to the posts and crossbar and tell all the d men they can't leave until each crate has 20 pucks in each one, can only shoot from the blueline.

Do you guys think Chia's plan is to save some cap space for a big free agent signing far far in the future? Or is it a deadline pickup plan?



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A slow team..

Lucic
Strome
Maroon
Pakarinen
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Benning
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I really, really hate being an Oilers fan. What a joke of an organization.


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 Re: Review: Detroit @ Edmonton (Game #13) [message #701775 is a reply to message #701763 ]
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Well, that was a typical Oiler game for this year:

>Decent shot totals, but very few good chances. They get possession in the zone and feed it to the point, where they have no one who can hit a net consistently or can do anything but the tried & true weak wrister. Everything feeds to the point from down low, they can win and keep possession there and around behind the net, but refuse to funnel pucks from down low to where the scoring happens.
>50% PK. We've seen this. The only way these sad sacks can lock it down is to not take any penalties.
>0% PP, yep, been there, done that.
>Talbot stops less than 90% of pucks, while opponent's backup looks like a career Vezina candidate. Check.

We knew what was in the cards when the Oilers had a PP, then Maroon took that phantom interference call to make it 4 x 4 for just under a minute. The Oilers spent about 50 seconds of that 4x4 making it look like a cross between a PP and the hockey version of the Harlem Globetrotters in the Detroit zone. Solid possession, but absolutely eff all at the net. Nothing. Just the same old cute passes, getting that 'dangerous' D involved, but not a lick of urgency to get the puck to the front of the net where goals are scored.

2-3 on this homestand, 1 step forward, 2 steps back. I'm wondering what the disconnect is for a team that was pretty good last year, and played well in the playoffs, to just not really have the urgency this year, ranging from looking like knuckleheads, to sub-mediocre, with maybe 3 or 4 performances where they looked like a good hockey team. This team hasn't been cheated, they've earned every lousy loss.

It's about time the Oilers got booed at home this year, it should have started somewhere in the 2nd period instead of in the last 10 seconds. Disappointing.




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We knew what was in the cards when the Oilers had a PP, then Maroon took that phantom interference call to make it 4 x 4 for just under a minute. The Oilers spent about 50 seconds of that 4x4 making it look like a cross between a PP and the hockey version of the Harlem Globetrotters in the Detroit zone. Solid possession, but absolutely eff all at the net. Nothing. Just the same old cute passes, getting that 'dangerous' D involved, but not a lick of urgency to get the puck to the front of the net where goals are scored.

It was like they thought they were in a game of keep away and racking up points for it! I gave up on this game early, too painfull.



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Anyone else catch the Barzal to Eberle one timer from the slot highlight?

[Updated on: Sun, 05 November 2017 17:58]


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Xombie wrote on Sun, 05 November 2017 17:47

Anyone else catch the Barzal to Eberle one timer from tne slot highlight?


If we lose to the Avs this year. People should be at Chia's house with pitchforks :)



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Barzal with 5 assists tonight!

Ebs with two goals.

Traded for Reinhart and Strome.

In short: I'm with Adam, Chia is failing.

Talbot, Kassian, Maroon. Three good moves.

[Updated on: Sun, 05 November 2017 18:55]


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Connor McDavid just said:

"Doesn't matter what the media or the fans think."

Unfreakinbelievable!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y4to83qa20



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Yeahhhh... I heard that as well.

Actually Connor, it does matter. We can stop showing up to see this garbage.

Not his finest interview. In his defense, he's usually really good... this just seems like a bad choice of words. Likely not quite what he meant.

[Updated on: Sun, 05 November 2017 17:59]


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stemhovlichski wrote on Sun, 05 November 2017 16:54

Connor McDavid just said:

"Doesn't matter what the media or the fans think."

Unfreakinbelievable!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y4to83qa20


He was asked if he thought the season was getting out of reach, He's absolutely right, what media or fans think is irrelevant, good or bad. What matter is what the team thinks, and their attitude.

He's probably never been booed in his life, and he's pissed off, pissed off about losing, pissed off about the play of his team mates, pissed off about seeing his season go up in smoke game after game, especially this early, having flashbacks to his first year, and missing the playoffs.
Probably wondering why he inked an 8 year deal with this tire fire.



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Unacceptable to lose this game. More unacceptable to get shut out.


When Peter Chiarelli is fired, Kevin Lowe will be involved in finding a replacement. Fire them all. Bring us REAL change.

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Interesting thing I noticed while looking at the game stats on this one:

Time on Ice
Mark Letestu: 16:19
Connor McDavid: 15:55

Extremely even distribution of minutes by McLellan today. Rolled lines consistently all game long.



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Adam wrote on Sun, 05 November 2017 22:27

Interesting thing I noticed while looking at the game stats on this one:

Time on Ice
Mark Letestu: 16:19
Connor McDavid: 15:55

Extremely even distribution of minutes by McLellan today. Rolled lines consistently all game long.


Kassian 15:15

Indicative of a multitude of poor entries into the offensive zone from our top line. Keep
It simple.



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Adam wrote on Sun, 05 November 2017 23:27

Interesting thing I noticed while looking at the game stats on this one:

Time on Ice
Mark Letestu: 16:19
Connor McDavid: 15:55

Extremely even distribution of minutes by McLellan today. Rolled lines consistently all game long.


I think he benched McDavid after goal 2. I think I saw a tweet that he barely played in the third



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Will Chia come out of hiding and take his lumps like Bergevin did?


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I'd give Kassian 1st line minutes, has the 3 "S"'s, Speed, Size, and Skill to play with McD. Drop down either Maroon or Draisatl to the 2nd line. Lucic working his way to the 3rd line.

Kassian McDavid Draisatl

(Lucic/Cagguila) RNH Maroon

Or

Kassian McDavid Maroon

RNH Draisatl Cagguila

And the rest of the parts, assemble as required...

Lucic Letestu Slepychev

Pakirenen Khaira Strome




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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 00:16

I'd give Kassian 1st line minutes, has the 3 "S"'s, Speed, Size, and Skill to play with McD. Drop down either Maroon or Draisatl to the 2nd line. Lucic working his way to the 3rd line.

Kassian McDavid Draisatl

(Lucic/Cagguila) RNH Maroon

Or

Kassian McDavid Maroon

RNH Draisatl Cagguila

And the rest of the parts, assemble as required...

Lucic Letestu Slepychev

Pakirenen Khaira Strome




Not sure I agree that Kassian has the skill for a first line player. I think he can be okay in short stints there to cover, but he's got 1 measly assist in 13 games this year. I don't think he's gifted offensively.



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So the game was on delay here, a 6am start... Woeful is all I can say, it was like this team hadn't skated with each other. Apart from RNH's shot that hit the post, we didn't even look like scoring, the passing was shocking, it was if they had no idea how to pass to each other. Credit to the Wings for playing the part in forcing that, but that has to be better.

After the game on Friday, I'm gobsmacked in some ways at this performance. We fought back on Friday from letting them back in the game and the awful bounce for the second goal. Nothing at all after the fortunate tip for the first goal, nothing no fight, no energy. This team last year had a good start, and they seemed to gel in the dressing room, right now it's as if they don't know each other, how can that be? Strome and Jokinen can't be blamed for disrupting that much?

Yamamoto needs to go down, he's a great player, but he's like the little kid on the block playing with the older kids. All the moves and looks real fancy, but no end production. Send him down, give him a chance to have another decent season in the juniors. This experiment should stop right now.



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Chias two big trades in his gm career.


Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin, Rich Peverley and Ryan Button for Loui Eriksson, Adam Larsson, Joseph Morrow, Reilly Smith and Matt Fraser.

No matter the circumstances - this guy managed to turn a #1 and #2 pick into almost nothing. How does he have a job. That's Garth Snow level bad. If some one has time I'd love to see the total gave/received roster for his career.



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Babaganoosh wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 01:05

Chias two big trades in his gm career.


Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin, Rich Peverley and Ryan Button for Loui Eriksson, Adam Larsson, Joseph Morrow, Reilly Smith and Matt Fraser.

No matter the circumstances - this guy managed to turn a #1 and #2 pick into almost nothing. How does he have a job. That's Garth Snow level bad. If some one has time I'd love to see the total gave/received roster for his career.


Garth Snow > Peter Chiarelli.

The evidence?

To the Islanders:
Jordan Eberle
1st round pick (Matthew Barzal)
2nd round pick (traded to Lightning w/ 3rd round pick for another 1st round pick - which was in turn used to pick Anthony Beauvillier)

To the Oilers:
Griffin Reinhart
Ryan Strome

Also:

To the Islanders:
Johnny Boychuck

To the Bruins
2nd round pick (Brandon Carlo - looks to be a 3rd pairing d-man)
2nd round pick (Ryan Lindgren- still in school)

Garth Snow has taken Panicky Pete to the woodshed three times in a row now.

[Updated on: Mon, 06 November 2017 07:59]


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Adam wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 07:56

Babaganoosh wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 01:05

Chias two big trades in his gm career.


Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin, Rich Peverley and Ryan Button for Loui Eriksson, Adam Larsson, Joseph Morrow, Reilly Smith and Matt Fraser.

No matter the circumstances - this guy managed to turn a #1 and #2 pick into almost nothing. How does he have a job. That's Garth Snow level bad. If some one has time I'd love to see the total gave/received roster for his career.


Garth Snow > Peter Chiarelli.

The evidence?

To the Islanders:
Jordan Eberle
1st round pick (Matthew Barzal)
2nd round pick (traded to Lightning w/ 3rd round pick for another 1st round pick - which was in turn used to pick Anthony Beauvillier)

To the Oilers:
Griffin Reinhart
Ryan Strome

Also:

To the Islanders:
Johnny Boychuck

To the Bruins
2nd round pick (Brandon Carlo - looks to be a 3rd pairing d-man)
2nd round pick (Ryan Lindgren- still in school)

Garth Snow has taken Panicky Pete to the woodshed three times in a row now.


Wow that puts into perspective just how bad Chia is. At some point ownership and operations has to be blamed for hiring the plug. Embrace the suck again?



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 Re: Review: Detroit @ Edmonton (Game #13) [message #701821 is a reply to message #701817 ]
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I was at the Devils game and I thought they played pretty well. Then they come out yesterday and play like that. Wow boys. To a man just a crap effort.

I was busy in the afternoon so I recorded the game but I forgot the start time and didn't get it started until partially through the first so maybe I missed it. Can someone tell me why Slep wasn't in the line up yesterday? As I said I was at the Devils game, I thought he looked pretty decent. Skated well, was physical, made some plays, got a point on the Lucic goal. The team WON so you usually don't break up a line up and that line looked decent. Did he get hurt?

I have said it many times, Yamo looks like he's going to be a player but he's not ready and it's not close. When he is on a line, he drags it down. Send him down PLEASE!!.

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 Re: Review: Detroit @ Edmonton (Game #13) [message #701822 is a reply to message #701821 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 08:17

I was at the Devils game and I thought they played pretty well. Then they come out yesterday and play like that. Wow boys, boy. To a man just a crap effort.

I was busy in the afternoon so I recorded he game but I forgot the start time and didn't get it started until partially through the first so maybe I missed it. Can someone tell me why Slep wasn't in the line up yesterday? As I said I was at the Devils game, I thought he looked pretty decent. Skated well, was physical, made some plays, got a point on the Lucic goal. The team WON so you usually don't break up a line up and that line looked decent. Did he get hurt?

I have said it many times, Yamo looks like he's going to be a player but he's not ready and it's not close. When he is on a line, he drags it down. Send him down PLEASE!!.



Yes, Slepyshev is hurt.



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 Re: Review: Detroit @ Edmonton (Game #13) [message #701823 is a reply to message #701822 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 08:20

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 08:17

I was at the Devils game and I thought they played pretty well. Then they come out yesterday and play like that. Wow boys, boy. To a man just a crap effort.

I was busy in the afternoon so I recorded he game but I forgot the start time and didn't get it started until partially through the first so maybe I missed it. Can someone tell me why Slep wasn't in the line up yesterday? As I said I was at the Devils game, I thought he looked pretty decent. Skated well, was physical, made some plays, got a point on the Lucic goal. The team WON so you usually don't break up a line up and that line looked decent. Did he get hurt?

I have said it many times, Yamo looks like he's going to be a player but he's not ready and it's not close. When he is on a line, he drags it down. Send him down PLEASE!!.



Yes, Slepyshev is hurt.

Thank you.



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 Re: Review: Detroit @ Edmonton (Game #13) [message #701834 is a reply to message #701816 ]
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I think the better comparison for Chiarelli at this point is probably Mike Millbury.

I'm not sure most orgs could come back from some of the moves he has made. Let alone this one with Lowe etc still pulling the strings and making decisions.



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 Re: Review: Detroit @ Edmonton (Game #13) [message #701837 is a reply to message #701834 ]
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Did the boys go on a 2 day bender after their win over the Devils and with a 2 pm game they hadn't quite slept it off yet? Even McDavid and Leon were bad.


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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 10:00

Did the boys go on a 2 day bender after their win over the Devils and with a 2 pm game they hadn't quite slept it off yet? Even McDavid and Leon were bad.


I feel like poor preparation is a problem for this team again. How many games this year as the team looked ready to play from the puck drop? 2?

I seriously feel like I'm reliving the days of Eakins. Obsession with volume shooting (except on the PP for some odd reason), poor preparation, disaster special teams, coach loves talking about what everyone is doing wrong and specific players in the media.



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 Re: Review: Detroit @ Edmonton (Game #13) [message #701844 is a reply to message #701840 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 10:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 06 November 2017 10:00

Did the boys go on a 2 day bender after their win over the Devils and with a 2 pm game they hadn't quite slept it off yet? Even McDavid and Leon were bad.


I feel like poor preparation is a problem for this team again. How many games this year as the team looked ready to play from the puck drop? 2?

I seriously feel like I'm reliving the days of Eakins. Obsession with volume shooting (except on the PP for some odd reason), poor preparation, disaster special teams, coach loves talking about what everyone is doing wrong and specific players in the media.


Hey, he did make a point of saying he was singling out the line, not the individual player last night...

I think he believes that he shows off how smart he is by breaking down mistakes in the post-game scrum. And the media love it and encourage it, so he does it again and again night after night.

Just a terrible practice though, and it sure doesn't look like he has the team playing for him and responding well to his incessant scolding. I would bet that it's just as embarrassing for the player when you don't say his name, but talk about the mistake he made in a level of detail that makes it crystal clear to everyone who you're talking about.

Less is more, and he should be the shield between the media and fans and the player. He doesn't seem to ever do that. Just constantly throwing the players under the bus.



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