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Wed, 23 August 2017 16:38 Go to next message
Adam  is currently offline Adam
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As I was looking up some other numbers, I noticed some interesting things about the Oilers playoff stats this year. Here's the even-strength and powerplay scoring numbers:

Draisaitl ES 5-5-9 PP 1-5-6
McDavid ES 2-6-8 PP 1-2-4 SH1-0-1
Maroon ES 2-4-6 PP 1-1-2
Larsson ES 2-4-6 PP 0-0-0
Klefbom ES 2-3-5 PP 0-0-0
Desharnais ES 1-3-4 PP 0-0-0
Kassian ES 2-0-2 PP 0-0-0 SH 1-0-1
Caggiula ES 3-0-3 PP 0-0-0
Slepyshev ES 3-0-3 PP 0-0-0
Lucic ES 0-3-3 PP 2-1-3
Sekera ES 1-2-3 PP 0-0-0
Letestu ES 1-1-2 PP 4-4-8 SH 0-1-1
Benning ES 0-2-2 PP 0-1-1
Nugent-Hopkins ES 0-1-1 PP 0-3-3
Eberle ES 0-1-1 PP 0-1-1
Nurse ES 0-1-1 PP 0-0-0 SH 0-1-1
Reinhart ES 0-1-1 PP 0-0-0
Pouliot/Gryba/Pakarinen 0-0-0

Total Team Goals - 25ES 9PP 2SH

Some interesting things here. Nuge and Eberle were definitely non-factors, but other than the first line of McDavid, Draisaitl & Maroon, there weren't a lot of players getting it done at even strength.

Larsson and Klefbom outscored every forward who wasn't on that line. Desharnais, who was incredibly forgettable other than the one OT winner, actually contributed more even strength points than any other forward playing almost exclusively fourth line minutes (9:31 per game, lowest of any forward on the team).

Lucic played 20 more even strength minutes than Eberle and 10 more than Nugent-Hopkins, and contributed just two more assists.

I think this shows a couple of things:

1) The powerplay was critically important to the Oilers. In 13 games, they had 9 goals on 42 PP opportunities.

Despite the fact that the referees put away their whistles, the Oilers scored more powerplay goals per game than all but the Capitals and the Sharks. (And if you want to complain about the reffing, the Sharks received way more PP opportunities/game than anyone else). In the defence of the officiating, of the final eight teams, no one generated more powerplay opportunities than the Oilers other than the Rangers (who squandered them with just 3 PPG in 39 opportunities).

2) Even strength scoring is a concern though. The Oilers scored under 2 goals per game at evens (1.92). That puts them 9th among playoff teams. The only other team to make the second round scoring less was St. Louis, and everyone who made the Final Four was significantly better (Ana: 2.53, Pitt: 2.40, Nash: 2.23 and Ott: 2.11).

When you consider that 14 of the 25 ES goals the Oilers scored came from their first line and first D pairing, it's clear that depth scoring is a major concern. Yes, part of that is #14 and #93, but almost no one was putting up numbers. Is this due to massive underperformance across the board? Or is it because the system is too conservative, and when you don't have McDavid or Draisaitl on the ice to make game-breaking plays, there's issues?

Since player personnel has not been upgraded this summer, we really have to hope that McLellan is making adjustments to his systems. The team needs to improve if they're going to challenge for the Cup, and if it's basically the same team with a weaker, younger right side, then it's pretty imperative that the change comes from better coaching. One of the criticisms from his days with San Jose has been that McLellan doesn't make adjustments quickly or well...but we're going to need him to prove that wrong, or it would be hard to imagine the Oilers moving much further forward than they did this year.



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 Re: Oilers Playoff Scoring [message #698567 is a reply to message #698559 ]
Wed, 23 August 2017 20:54 Go to previous message
Kr55  is currently offline Kr55
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Adam wrote on Wed, 23 August 2017 16:38

As I was looking up some other numbers, I noticed some interesting things about the Oilers playoff stats this year. Here's the even-strength and powerplay scoring numbers:

Draisaitl ES 5-5-9 PP 1-5-6
McDavid ES 2-6-8 PP 1-2-4 SH1-0-1
Maroon ES 2-4-6 PP 1-1-2
Larsson ES 2-4-6 PP 0-0-0
Klefbom ES 2-3-5 PP 0-0-0
Desharnais ES 1-3-4 PP 0-0-0
Kassian ES 2-0-2 PP 0-0-0 SH 1-0-1
Caggiula ES 3-0-3 PP 0-0-0
Slepyshev ES 3-0-3 PP 0-0-0
Lucic ES 0-3-3 PP 2-1-3
Sekera ES 1-2-3 PP 0-0-0
Letestu ES 1-1-2 PP 4-4-8 SH 0-1-1
Benning ES 0-2-2 PP 0-1-1
Nugent-Hopkins ES 0-1-1 PP 0-3-3
Eberle ES 0-1-1 PP 0-1-1
Nurse ES 0-1-1 PP 0-0-0 SH 0-1-1
Reinhart ES 0-1-1 PP 0-0-0
Pouliot/Gryba/Pakarinen 0-0-0

Total Team Goals - 25ES 9PP 2SH

Some interesting things here. Nuge and Eberle were definitely non-factors, but other than the first line of McDavid, Draisaitl & Maroon, there weren't a lot of players getting it done at even strength.

Larsson and Klefbom outscored every forward who wasn't on that line. Desharnais, who was incredibly forgettable other than the one OT winner, actually contributed more even strength points than any other forward playing almost exclusively fourth line minutes (9:31 per game, lowest of any forward on the team).

Lucic played 20 more even strength minutes than Eberle and 10 more than Nugent-Hopkins, and contributed just two more assists.

I think this shows a couple of things:

1) The powerplay was critically important to the Oilers. In 13 games, they had 9 goals on 42 PP opportunities.

Despite the fact that the referees put away their whistles, the Oilers scored more powerplay goals per game than all but the Capitals and the Sharks. (And if you want to complain about the reffing, the Sharks received way more PP opportunities/game than anyone else). In the defence of the officiating, of the final eight teams, no one generated more powerplay opportunities than the Oilers other than the Rangers (who squandered them with just 3 PPG in 39 opportunities).

2) Even strength scoring is a concern though. The Oilers scored under 2 goals per game at evens (1.92). That puts them 9th among playoff teams. The only other team to make the second round scoring less was St. Louis, and everyone who made the Final Four was significantly better (Ana: 2.53, Pitt: 2.40, Nash: 2.23 and Ott: 2.11).

When you consider that 14 of the 25 ES goals the Oilers scored came from their first line and first D pairing, it's clear that depth scoring is a major concern. Yes, part of that is #14 and #93, but almost no one was putting up numbers. Is this due to massive underperformance across the board? Or is it because the system is too conservative, and when you don't have McDavid or Draisaitl on the ice to make game-breaking plays, there's issues?

Since player personnel has not been upgraded this summer, we really have to hope that McLellan is making adjustments to his systems. The team needs to improve if they're going to challenge for the Cup, and if it's basically the same team with a weaker, younger right side, then it's pretty imperative that the change comes from better coaching. One of the criticisms from his days with San Jose has been that McLellan doesn't make adjustments quickly or well...but we're going to need him to prove that wrong, or it would be hard to imagine the Oilers moving much further forward than they did this year.


No doubt there are coaching improvements that need to happen. I really hope McLellan was pushing players to focus more on the defensive side as a building block for the years to come and he is able to get guys to let loose more and be more creative. So far, it's just been the high end talent running the show for our offensive game every night and everyone else seems like they're just trying to play even hockey so McDavid can get the win. McLellan said he wants to try to push Nuge to take more risks next season. Hoping that will apply to other guys as well.

One weird stat that came up in another discussion I was having.


Oilers 5v5 behind 1 (787 mins):
CF % = 8th
GF % = 1st
HDCF % = 8th

Oilers 5v5 ahead 1 (773 mins):
CF % = 11th
GF % = 11th
HDCF % = 3rd

Oilers 5v5 tied (1493 mins):
CF % = 20th
GF % = 21st
HDCF % = 25th


How bizarre is that? We were actually one of the most dangerous teams in the league last season up by a goal at getting high quality chances. I wasn't expecting that honestly. But something very wrong is happening mentally and with our game plan when we're tied. My memory actually does align with those stats to some degree. I very clearly recall the Oilers having god awful Eakins quality starts to games on many nights. We were also very prone to the huge emotional letdowns after coming back from behind in games. The kinds of things that unfortunately did happen in the playoffs as well. Things that maybe you really can only solve with experience and putting in the time to have your team grow together.

Really think there is some work to be done by McLellan and the team as a whole, and there is definitely some room for improvement. There's really no excuse to be such a different team when tied, none that should be permanent.

[Updated on: Wed, 23 August 2017 21:03]


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