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 Joey LaLeggia signs before arbitration hearing [message #697643]
Wed, 12 July 2017 13:10 Go to next message
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You can all breathe a sigh of relief.

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EDM settles arb case with Joey LaLeggia. One year, two-way...$700K at NHL level.


Fire Chia!

I kid.

No one talking about his AHL salary though. This is actually a decrease from his last contract in terms of the NHL salary. Have to assume the Oilers gave him a little bump in AHL salary? Not sure what the limits are, but Ty Rattie will be making 225k in the minors next season, so there was definitely room for LaLeggia to improve over his 70k last year.

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 Re: Joey LaLeggia signs before arbitration hearing [message #697644 is a reply to message #697643 ]
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I can't even believe he filed for arbitration. What leverage does he think he has? He was a dman who the Oilers saw play and said. "We think you need to stop being a dman and play forward.' Not exactly a compelling argument I would think.


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 Re: Joey LaLeggia signs before arbitration hearing [message #697645 is a reply to message #697644 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 12 July 2017 13:18

I can't even believe he filed for arbitration. What leverage does he think he has? He was a dman who the Oilers saw play and said. "We think you need to stop being a dman and play forward.' Not exactly a compelling argument I would think.


Doubt he filed with any ill will. The Oilers were actually obligated to give him a qualifying offer of $874,125, which they did send him. He took 175k less than that. In the end he likely took a drop in potential NHL salary in exchange for a bump in AHL salary. Arbitration was likely done to just get the ball rolling and negotiations done ASAP so he's not waiting all summer for Chia to get to him, which is well within his rights to do.

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 12 July 2017 13:22

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 12 July 2017 13:18

I can't even believe he filed for arbitration. What leverage does he think he has? He was a dman who the Oilers saw play and said. "We think you need to stop being a dman and play forward.' Not exactly a compelling argument I would think.


Doubt he filed with any ill will. The Oilers were actually obligated to give him a qualifying offer of $874,125, which they did send him. He took 175k less than that. In the end he likely took a drop in potential NHL salary in exchange for a bump in AHL salary. Arbitration was likely done to just get the ball rolling and negotiations done ASAP so he's not waiting all summer for Chia to get to him, which is well within his rights to do.


Exactly, this is the player version of a team qualifying an RFA. It isnt like they are expecting Draisaitl to play for the qualifying offer amount.

Not everything has to be assumed to be some kind of angry stand off.



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 Re: Joey LaLeggia signs before arbitration hearing [message #697736 is a reply to message #697646 ]
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PlusOne wrote on Wed, 12 July 2017 13:27

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 12 July 2017 13:22

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 12 July 2017 13:18

I can't even believe he filed for arbitration. What leverage does he think he has? He was a dman who the Oilers saw play and said. "We think you need to stop being a dman and play forward.' Not exactly a compelling argument I would think.


Doubt he filed with any ill will. The Oilers were actually obligated to give him a qualifying offer of $874,125, which they did send him. He took 175k less than that. In the end he likely took a drop in potential NHL salary in exchange for a bump in AHL salary. Arbitration was likely done to just get the ball rolling and negotiations done ASAP so he's not waiting all summer for Chia to get to him, which is well within his rights to do.


Exactly, this is the player version of a team qualifying an RFA. It isnt like they are expecting Draisaitl to play for the qualifying offer amount.

Not everything has to be assumed to be some kind of angry stand off.


Maybe the Laleggia camp strongly suspected that Chiarelli is desperate to get off to the lake, and knew that he wouldn't want to spend the latter half of July preparing an arbitration case on some player he barely knows and probably wouldn't even recognize at the hearing. Brilliant move, because he just gives in early in order to avoid the hassle!



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Joey LaLeggia no longer a part of the Oiler organization...trusts his future to the Blues...they gave him a two-year deal...

http://www.bakersfieldcondors.com/team/roster_offseason/




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GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 02 July 2018 20:04

Joey LaLeggia no longer a part of the Oiler organization...trusts his future to the Blues...they gave him a two-year deal...

http://www.bakersfieldcondors.com/team/roster_offseason/


I wouldn't have minded him getting a call up towards the end of the year. Put up good AHL numbers, and I'm curious what the gap is between him and Drake Caggiula.

I don't think he'll ever be more than a fourth line NHLer if he reaches there at all. But he might have been a cheaper option if there wasn't a huge gap between them.



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GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 02 July 2018 20:04

Joey LaLeggia no longer a part of the Oiler organization...trusts his future to the Blues...they gave him a two-year deal...

http://www.bakersfieldcondors.com/team/roster_offseason/


Interesting to see both LaLeggia and Simpson manage to land two season pacts after not getting qualified by the Oilers.

Both would be considerable longshots to ever make the show. I was sorry last year to see Oesterle go, because I thought he had a shot...neither of these guys seem likely to move the needle though.

At least we haven't replaced them with a slew more JAGs like last summer's big signing spree...yet.



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 Re: Joey LaLeggia signs before arbitration hearing [message #697733 is a reply to message #697643 ]
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It's nice when a team and player avoid arbitration.

I have a feeling he will see the NHL roster this season.



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I have no issue with him being gone. The Oilers need to purge themselves of guys like him. Guys who are most likely non NHLers who don't have a role. Is he a dman or a winger?


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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 03 July 2018 08:08

Is he a dman or a winger?


Totally on board with everything else you have to say except this. Having the ability to play multiple positions is an asset, not a liability. It sure doesn't hurt Byfuglien and Burns that at times in their career they were considered forwards.



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Adam wrote on Tue, 03 July 2018 22:58

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 03 July 2018 08:08

Is he a dman or a winger?


Totally on board with everything else you have to say except this. Having the ability to play multiple positions is an asset, not a liability. It sure doesn't hurt Byfuglien and Burns that at times in their career they were considered forwards.


Nice comparisons. 2 all stars. Is it handy that a guy can play multiple positions? Sure. But usually it's a good idea to be decent at them. LaLeggia is a below average dman even at the AHL level and a mediocre winger at the AHL level. At 26 yr old the chances of their being some untapped potential are pretty slim. No loss.



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Rocksteady wrote on Fri, 14 July 2017 16:54

It's nice when a team and player avoid arbitration.

I have a feeling he will see the NHL roster this season.


Update: NOPE.

Hope he does well in St.Louis.



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Rocksteady wrote on Wed, 04 July 2018 10:20

Rocksteady wrote on Fri, 14 July 2017 16:54

It's nice when a team and player avoid arbitration.

I have a feeling he will see the NHL roster this season.


Update: NOPE.

Hope he does well in St.Louis.


I don't. Do well likely means 2 goals against the Oilers, and that's it icon_wink



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