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 Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695694]
Sun, 18 June 2017 08:44 Go to next message
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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-reveals-protection-lists-ahead-of-expa nsion-draft-1.782246

EDMONTON OILERS

Available
David Desharnais (F)
Justin Fontaine (F)
Matt Hendricks (F)
Roman Horak (F)
Jujhar Khaira (F)
Anton Lander (F)
Iiro Pakarinen (F)
Tyler Pitlick (F)
Zach Pochiro (F)
Benoit Pouliot (F)
Henrik Samuelsson (F)
Bogdan Yakimov (F)
Mark Fayne (D)
Andrew Ference (D)
Mark Fraser (D)
Eric Gryba (D)
David Musil (D)
Jordan Oesterle (D)
Griffin Reinhart (D)
Kris Russell (D)
Dillon Simpson (D)
Laurent Brossoit (G)
Jonas Gustavsson (G)

Protected
Leon Draisaitl (F)
Jordan Eberle (F)
Zack Kassian (F)
Mark Letestu (F)
Milan Lucic (F)
Patrick Maroon (F)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (F)
Oscar Klefbom (D)
Adam Larsson (D)
Andrej Sekera (D)
Cam Talbot (G)



No surprises really. hopefully Vegas likes Poo.



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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695696 is a reply to message #695694 ]
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Zack Kassian on the Oilers protected short list. Imagine that two years ago as he had his car wreck with Montreal or his years being a huge pain in our butt with the Canucks. He's come far.

No surprises.

Compare that to the fact Vatanen and James Neal are exposed.

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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695697 is a reply to message #695696 ]
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nullterm wrote on Sun, 18 June 2017 09:53

Zack Kassian on the Oilers protected short list. Imagine that two years ago as he had his car wreck with Montreal or his years being a huge pain in our butt with the Canucks. He's come far.

No surprises.

Compare that to the fact Vatanen and James Neal are exposed.


Sucks we don't find out about the backroom deals vegas has with teams until later. If they actually pull it off, what could the Ducks have possibly offered to protect all of Rakell, Silfverberg, Manson and Vatanen? They had to lose at least one of them, and expose 2 if Beiska wouldn't waive his NMC.



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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695699 is a reply to message #695697 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 18 June 2017 09:06

nullterm wrote on Sun, 18 June 2017 09:53

Zack Kassian on the Oilers protected short list. Imagine that two years ago as he had his car wreck with Montreal or his years being a huge pain in our butt with the Canucks. He's come far.

No surprises.

Compare that to the fact Vatanen and James Neal are exposed.


Sucks we don't find out about the backroom deals vegas has with teams until later. If they actually pull it off, what could the Ducks have possibly offered to protect all of Rakell, Silfverberg, Manson and Vatanen? They had to lose at least one of them, and expose 2 if Beiska wouldn't waive his NMC.



Both Vatanen and Manson are exposed. I expect Ducks have a deal with Vegas to NOT take Manson.

Neal would be a good compliment for the Oil, true sniper. I expect Vegas takes and keeps him.

Pretty wild that NYI protects 5 D, and still expose deHaan.



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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695705 is a reply to message #695699 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 18 June 2017 12:01

Pretty wild that NYI protects 5 D, and still expose deHaan.

Dollars to donuts there's a deal for DeHaan.



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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695706 is a reply to message #695705 ]
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DUFFMAN wrote on Sun, 18 June 2017 12:06

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 18 June 2017 12:01

Pretty wild that NYI protects 5 D, and still expose deHaan.

Dollars to donuts there's a deal for DeHaan.


Also says Snow doesn't think much of his forwards.



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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695715 is a reply to message #695706 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 18 June 2017 14:20

DUFFMAN wrote on Sun, 18 June 2017 12:06

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 18 June 2017 12:01

Pretty wild that NYI protects 5 D, and still expose deHaan.

Dollars to donuts there's a deal for DeHaan.


Also says Snow doesn't think much of his forwards.


I agree there's a deal for de Haan. Also, could be motivation tactic for Pelech, shows faith in him to protect him, deal for de Haan or not. Also possibly a nice kick in the pants for Strome and Bailey to shape up.



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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695704 is a reply to message #695694 ]
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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695733 is a reply to message #695694 ]
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I've been seeing speculation online that the Oilers should have protected Khaira over Letestu but I don't see any way that Vegas would have interest in Letestu. He's basically an expensive 4th line center that was able to have a bit of success scoring on a PP with McDavid & Draisaitl (something I would not bet on him repeating with Bobby Ryan and Eric Staal if I were Vegas). He's also a UFA in a year.

I think if the Oilers had left Letestu exposed, it basically forces VGK to take Broissoit or Reinhart (and likely Reinhart). Leaving Khaira exposed may mean that Reinhart remains an Oiler, and this is probably the best case scenario for the Oilers, especially given Sekera's injury and the lack of depth at the bottom of the defence depth chart. I think it's probably easier to find a 4th line forward than it is to find a bottom pairing defenceman.

Of course the actual best case for the Oilers is if the VGK were to take Pouliot or sign Russell, but I think the likelihood of either of those scenarios is pretty low.



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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695738 is a reply to message #695733 ]
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Goose wrote on Mon, 19 June 2017 10:25

I've been seeing speculation online that the Oilers should have protected Khaira over Letestu but I don't see any way that Vegas would have interest in Letestu. He's basically an expensive 4th line center that was able to have a bit of success scoring on a PP with McDavid & Draisaitl (something I would not bet on him repeating with Bobby Ryan and Eric Staal if I were Vegas). He's also a UFA in a year.

I think if the Oilers had left Letestu exposed, it basically forces VGK to take Broissoit or Reinhart (and likely Reinhart). Leaving Khaira exposed may mean that Reinhart remains an Oiler, and this is probably the best case scenario for the Oilers, especially given Sekera's injury and the lack of depth at the bottom of the defence depth chart. I think it's probably easier to find a 4th line forward than it is to find a bottom pairing defenceman.

Of course the actual best case for the Oilers is if the VGK were to take Pouliot or sign Russell, but I think the likelihood of either of those scenarios is pretty low.

If you are the Oilers and you are going into win now mode. How do you not protect your vet but still has game left, 4th line center who is currently your only right handed center, the only guy who wins over 50% on faceoffs, plays on the PP, kills penalties, is signed to a good contract given all that he does and is coming off a 16 goal, 35 pt season, with another 5 goals 11 pts in the playoffs. Plus he's a UFA. They'd be crazy not to protect him and Vegas would scoop him up in a heartbeat.



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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695739 is a reply to message #695738 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 19 June 2017 10:43


If you are the Oilers and you are going into win now mode. How do you not protect your vet but still has game left, 4th line center who is currently your only right handed center, the only guy who wins over 50% on faceoffs, plays on the PP, kills penalties, is signed to a good contract given all that he does and is coming off a 16 goal, 35 pt season, with another 5 goals 11 pts in the playoffs. Plus he's a UFA. They'd be crazy not to protect him and Vegas would scoop him up in a heartbeat.


I agree that he has value for the Oilers. He worked on the PP with McDavid/Drai and I've said before that the ability to score goals is a valuable one. I have little faith that he could repeat that performance on the VGK powerplay given that he hasn't done it anywhere else. He is expensive for a 4th line 5x5 player ($1.8M for a 4th line center is not a good contract - he only had three 5x5 goals), and a UFA to be, so I don't think he has near the value to Vegas that he has to the Oilers.

Vegas is definitely not (or at least they shouldn't be), in win now mode.



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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695749 is a reply to message #695733 ]
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Goose wrote on Mon, 19 June 2017 10:25

I've been seeing speculation online that the Oilers should have protected Khaira over Letestu but I don't see any way that Vegas would have interest in Letestu. He's basically an expensive 4th line center that was able to have a bit of success scoring on a PP with McDavid & Draisaitl (something I would not bet on him repeating with Bobby Ryan and Eric Staal if I were Vegas). He's also a UFA in a year.

I think if the Oilers had left Letestu exposed, it basically forces VGK to take Broissoit or Reinhart (and likely Reinhart). Leaving Khaira exposed may mean that Reinhart remains an Oiler, and this is probably the best case scenario for the Oilers, especially given Sekera's injury and the lack of depth at the bottom of the defence depth chart. I think it's probably easier to find a 4th line forward than it is to find a bottom pairing defenceman.

Of course the actual best case for the Oilers is if the VGK were to take Pouliot or sign Russell, but I think the likelihood of either of those scenarios is pretty low.


Khaira's NHL stats to date are 25 GP, 1-2-3, 15 PIM, -1, 24 SOG.

No one should lose any sleep over losing Khaira. He's a big body that can skate, which is nice, but he's shown very little hands. 4% shooting percentage so far, and I don't think that's just bad luck.

At the AHL level, he's played 131 games and recorded 22-35-57 points. That isn't great AHL production. Anton Lander had 55 points in 42 AHL games this year. It indicates that Khaira isn't likely to ever be much of an impact NHL player. The most you can reasonably hope for is that he becomes a 10-15 point/season player in the NHL. That isn't an important piece, and it's one that can be easily duplicated.



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 Re: Oilers Expansion Draft List [message #695750 is a reply to message #695749 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 19 June 2017 17:17

Goose wrote on Mon, 19 June 2017 10:25

I've been seeing speculation online that the Oilers should have protected Khaira over Letestu but I don't see any way that Vegas would have interest in Letestu. He's basically an expensive 4th line center that was able to have a bit of success scoring on a PP with McDavid & Draisaitl (something I would not bet on him repeating with Bobby Ryan and Eric Staal if I were Vegas). He's also a UFA in a year.

I think if the Oilers had left Letestu exposed, it basically forces VGK to take Broissoit or Reinhart (and likely Reinhart). Leaving Khaira exposed may mean that Reinhart remains an Oiler, and this is probably the best case scenario for the Oilers, especially given Sekera's injury and the lack of depth at the bottom of the defence depth chart. I think it's probably easier to find a 4th line forward than it is to find a bottom pairing defenceman.

Of course the actual best case for the Oilers is if the VGK were to take Pouliot or sign Russell, but I think the likelihood of either of those scenarios is pretty low.


Khaira's NHL stats to date are 25 GP, 1-2-3, 15 PIM, -1, 24 SOG.

No one should lose any sleep over losing Khaira. He's a big body that can skate, which is nice, but he's shown very little hands. 4% shooting percentage so far, and I don't think that's just bad luck.

At the AHL level, he's played 131 games and recorded 22-35-57 points. That isn't great AHL production. Anton Lander had 55 points in 42 AHL games this year. It indicates that Khaira isn't likely to ever be much of an impact NHL player. The most you can reasonably hope for is that he becomes a 10-15 point/season player in the NHL. That isn't an important piece, and it's one that can be easily duplicated.


What are you talkin about? Jujhar Hockey is one of a kind. You got a magic Jujhar tree in your back yard or something?




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