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 Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #695405]
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Well isn't this something that 3 or 4 years ago we thought we would never see.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/complete-stanley-cup-odds -2017-18-season-released/




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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #695406 is a reply to message #695405 ]
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Poor Mr. Hall looking at the same odds he has his whole NHL career, so far.


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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #695407 is a reply to message #695405 ]
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It is nice to be able to have expectations of our team that aren't lower than Triassic-era fossils. This offseason is going to be a very interesting one, I think.


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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #695408 is a reply to message #695405 ]
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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #695414 is a reply to message #695408 ]
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I think the odds are very much in favor of a 2018 Stanley Cup. It has happened every year for the last hundred or so. I'd say barring apocalyptic astroid strike or global flood there should be no worry.


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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #695430 is a reply to message #695414 ]
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Babaganoosh wrote on Mon, 12 June 2017 16:04

I think the odds are very much in favor of a 2018 Stanley Cup. It has happened every year for the last hundred or so. I'd say barring apocalyptic astroid strike or global flood there should be no worry.


I wouldn't say every year...



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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #696421 is a reply to message #695430 ]
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....so despite all the doom and gloom surrounding the recent trades, expansion draft, player signings, and so-called poor salary cap management, it looks like the Oilers remain in strong favour to take the Western Conference berth in the 2018 Stanley Cup around betting sites around the world....

https://www.oddschecker.com/ice-hockey/nhl/stanley-cup/winne r




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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #696422 is a reply to message #696421 ]
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GabbyDugan wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 14:08

....so despite all the doom and gloom surrounding the recent trades, expansion draft, player signings, and so-called poor salary cap management, it looks like the Oilers remain in strong favour to take the Western Conference berth in the 2018 Stanley Cup around betting sites around the world....

https://www.oddschecker.com/ice-hockey/nhl/stanley-cup/winne r


I think that people are starting to conflate expectations of the Oilers with actual accomplishments.

Again though, nice to see, but it means nothing really. This team hasn't won anything of note yet. They are raising no banners this fall (unless someone else plays a handful of shows in a row at Rogers Place). They've received no team hardware.

The team has a long road back to where they were. They've only gotten worse so far this summer. They lost 21 points in the Eberle trade, and there is no replacement yet for Sekera, who was the second most productive defenceman on the team while acting as the mitigating factor against the tire fire that was Kris Russell. The depth behind the first 5 defencemen is non-existent, even more so since Oesterle and Gryba are UFAs and Reinhart is a Golden Knight. Fayne is persona non-grata with the team, so who is going to play nightly until Christmas is still very much up in the air. Ziyat Piagin maybe? Dillon Simpson?

Hopefully there's more roster improvement to come this summer, because right now the lineup looks thin on right wing, thin on left wing and thin on defence. And goaltending is a major issue if Talbot is unable to play 70+ games again.

I really hope that Chiarelli's busy this summer and doesn't feel like this roster is close. And I hope that for once the Oilers brass will set a lofty goal for the team to strive for this year. The oddsmakers are, so management better be ready to follow suit.




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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #696424 is a reply to message #696422 ]
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Adam wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 15:56

GabbyDugan wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 14:08

....so despite all the doom and gloom surrounding the recent trades, expansion draft, player signings, and so-called poor salary cap management, it looks like the Oilers remain in strong favour to take the Western Conference berth in the 2018 Stanley Cup around betting sites around the world....

https://www.oddschecker.com/ice-hockey/nhl/stanley-cup/winne r


I think that people are starting to conflate expectations of the Oilers with actual accomplishments.

Again though, nice to see, but it means nothing really. This team hasn't won anything of note yet. They are raising no banners this fall (unless someone else plays a handful of shows in a row at Rogers Place). They've received no team hardware.

The team has a long road back to where they were. They've only gotten worse so far this summer. They lost 21 points in the Eberle trade, and there is no replacement yet for Sekera, who was the second most productive defenceman on the team while acting as the mitigating factor against the tire fire that was Kris Russell. The depth behind the first 5 defencemen is non-existent, even more so since Oesterle and Gryba are UFAs and Reinhart is a Golden Knight. Fayne is persona non-grata with the team, so who is going to play nightly until Christmas is still very much up in the air. Ziyat Piagin maybe? Dillon Simpson?

Hopefully there's more roster improvement to come this summer, because right now the lineup looks thin on right wing, thin on left wing and thin on defence. And goaltending is a major issue if Talbot is unable to play 70+ games again.

I really hope that Chiarelli's busy this summer and doesn't feel like this roster is close. And I hope that for once the Oilers brass will set a lofty goal for the team to strive for this year. The oddsmakers are, so management better be ready to follow suit.




I'm going to say it right now. I don't think we make playoffs. This team is a house built on sand. If Talbot can't compete for a vezina again. We're screwed.



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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #696425 is a reply to message #696424 ]
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Babaganoosh wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 19:23

Adam wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 15:56

GabbyDugan wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 14:08

....so despite all the doom and gloom surrounding the recent trades, expansion draft, player signings, and so-called poor salary cap management, it looks like the Oilers remain in strong favour to take the Western Conference berth in the 2018 Stanley Cup around betting sites around the world....

https://www.oddschecker.com/ice-hockey/nhl/stanley-cup/winne r


I think that people are starting to conflate expectations of the Oilers with actual accomplishments.

Again though, nice to see, but it means nothing really. This team hasn't won anything of note yet. They are raising no banners this fall (unless someone else plays a handful of shows in a row at Rogers Place). They've received no team hardware.

The team has a long road back to where they were. They've only gotten worse so far this summer. They lost 21 points in the Eberle trade, and there is no replacement yet for Sekera, who was the second most productive defenceman on the team while acting as the mitigating factor against the tire fire that was Kris Russell. The depth behind the first 5 defencemen is non-existent, even more so since Oesterle and Gryba are UFAs and Reinhart is a Golden Knight. Fayne is persona non-grata with the team, so who is going to play nightly until Christmas is still very much up in the air. Ziyat Piagin maybe? Dillon Simpson?

Hopefully there's more roster improvement to come this summer, because right now the lineup looks thin on right wing, thin on left wing and thin on defence. And goaltending is a major issue if Talbot is unable to play 70+ games again.

I really hope that Chiarelli's busy this summer and doesn't feel like this roster is close. And I hope that for once the Oilers brass will set a lofty goal for the team to strive for this year. The oddsmakers are, so management better be ready to follow suit.




I'm going to say it right now. I don't think we make playoffs. This team is a house built on sand. If Talbot can't compete for a vezina again. We're screwed.

Bold prediction. I think they make it because Vegas and Vancouver are awful and the Kings are in a full swan dive. But I'm very concerned they aren't who we're being told they are.



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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #696445 is a reply to message #696425 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 19:29

Babaganoosh wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 19:23

Adam wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 15:56

GabbyDugan wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 14:08

....so despite all the doom and gloom surrounding the recent trades, expansion draft, player signings, and so-called poor salary cap management, it looks like the Oilers remain in strong favour to take the Western Conference berth in the 2018 Stanley Cup around betting sites around the world....

https://www.oddschecker.com/ice-hockey/nhl/stanley-cup/winne r


I think that people are starting to conflate expectations of the Oilers with actual accomplishments.

Again though, nice to see, but it means nothing really. This team hasn't won anything of note yet. They are raising no banners this fall (unless someone else plays a handful of shows in a row at Rogers Place). They've received no team hardware.

The team has a long road back to where they were. They've only gotten worse so far this summer. They lost 21 points in the Eberle trade, and there is no replacement yet for Sekera, who was the second most productive defenceman on the team while acting as the mitigating factor against the tire fire that was Kris Russell. The depth behind the first 5 defencemen is non-existent, even more so since Oesterle and Gryba are UFAs and Reinhart is a Golden Knight. Fayne is persona non-grata with the team, so who is going to play nightly until Christmas is still very much up in the air. Ziyat Piagin maybe? Dillon Simpson?

Hopefully there's more roster improvement to come this summer, because right now the lineup looks thin on right wing, thin on left wing and thin on defence. And goaltending is a major issue if Talbot is unable to play 70+ games again.

I really hope that Chiarelli's busy this summer and doesn't feel like this roster is close. And I hope that for once the Oilers brass will set a lofty goal for the team to strive for this year. The oddsmakers are, so management better be ready to follow suit.




I'm going to say it right now. I don't think we make playoffs. This team is a house built on sand. If Talbot can't compete for a vezina again. We're screwed.

Bold prediction. I think they make it because Vegas and Vancouver are awful and the Kings are in a full swan dive. But I'm very concerned they aren't who we're being told they are.


I agree with this. If McDavid and Talbot can stay healthy, we're likely to make the playoffs, because I don't think there's 8 teams better than us, and in our division specifically, it's hard to imagine any of Arizona, Las Vegas or Los Angeles (now in the hands of former players with little management training or experience) finishing ahead of us.

Playoffs shouldn't be an issue (again, with health as the caveat), but is this team ready to beat Anaheim or Chicago or Nashville? I don't see it getting any better yet. Hopefully there's an ace up Chiarelli's sleeve this summer, and he's not just in a hurry to get the roster done and get up to the cabin...



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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #696572 is a reply to message #696445 ]
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Chicago, Minnesota, St Louis, Anaheim and Nashville are better then us. San Jose is on the down trend but still Dangerous. Winnepeg, Calgary, and Dallas should compete. Colorado can't be as bad as last year. I could concieve 5 teams from the central going and the Oilers missing. I think this teams in for a rude awakening. They aren't flying under the radar anymore. They lack a second line winger. Our defense is a patchwork mess. I see big issues. Big issues in flashing red lights.


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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #696671 is a reply to message #696572 ]
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Babaganoosh wrote on Mon, 26 June 2017 17:38

Chicago, Minnesota, St Louis, Anaheim and Nashville are better then us. San Jose is on the down trend but still Dangerous. Winnepeg, Calgary, and Dallas should compete. Colorado can't be as bad as last year. I could concieve 5 teams from the central going and the Oilers missing. I think this teams in for a rude awakening. They aren't flying under the radar anymore. They lack a second line winger. Our defense is a patchwork mess. I see big issues. Big issues in flashing red lights.


I'm not sold on Chicago and Nashville being better and if Anaheim is, then it's just barely. I think Chicago got worse with the trades they made plus losing Hossa, Nashville's riding high from the SCF so they (I think) only seem like they're better. Anaheim is probably even or barely better. I think Oilers are still second best in their division behind Anaheim and ahead of Calgary and San Jose. Arizona got a pile better too, but not there yet. In the central, Winnipeg and Dallas are going to be much better while I think Chicago slides. Minnesota and St Louis battling for 1st then Winnipeg, Chicago and Dallas battling for 3rd and the wildcards. I think the Oilers are stills safe at #2.

So, while I think you're right that it could be 5 Central and 3 Pacific, I still feel the Oilers will be one of those 3.



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 Re: Odds of 2018 Stanley Cup [message #698048 is a reply to message #696671 ]
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Looks like some pundits are calling for the Oil to be the SC Champs in 2018. It's weird seeing them pegged to finish first in the Pacific and winning the Cup, but in a good way. Man, it's nice to have that Connor kid in an Oil uniform for the next 9 years....


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Babaganoosh wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 18:23

Adam wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 15:56

GabbyDugan wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 14:08

....so despite all the doom and gloom surrounding the recent trades, expansion draft, player signings, and so-called poor salary cap management, it looks like the Oilers remain in strong favour to take the Western Conference berth in the 2018 Stanley Cup around betting sites around the world....

https://www.oddschecker.com/ice-hockey/nhl/stanley-cup/winne r


I think that people are starting to conflate expectations of the Oilers with actual accomplishments.

Again though, nice to see, but it means nothing really. This team hasn't won anything of note yet. They are raising no banners this fall (unless someone else plays a handful of shows in a row at Rogers Place). They've received no team hardware.

The team has a long road back to where they were. They've only gotten worse so far this summer. They lost 21 points in the Eberle trade, and there is no replacement yet for Sekera, who was the second most productive defenceman on the team while acting as the mitigating factor against the tire fire that was Kris Russell. The depth behind the first 5 defencemen is non-existent, even more so since Oesterle and Gryba are UFAs and Reinhart is a Golden Knight. Fayne is persona non-grata with the team, so who is going to play nightly until Christmas is still very much up in the air. Ziyat Piagin maybe? Dillon Simpson?

Hopefully there's more roster improvement to come this summer, because right now the lineup looks thin on right wing, thin on left wing and thin on defence. And goaltending is a major issue if Talbot is unable to play 70+ games again.

I really hope that Chiarelli's busy this summer and doesn't feel like this roster is close. And I hope that for once the Oilers brass will set a lofty goal for the team to strive for this year. The oddsmakers are, so management better be ready to follow suit.




I'm going to say it right now. I don't think we make playoffs. This team is a house built on sand. If Talbot can't compete for a vezina again. We're screwed.


I'm more worried about our defence, given Sekera is out for 1/3 to 1/2 the season. That could be a tough way to start the season and claw back from.



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nullterm wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 19:29

Babaganoosh wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 18:23

Adam wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 15:56

GabbyDugan wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 14:08

....so despite all the doom and gloom surrounding the recent trades, expansion draft, player signings, and so-called poor salary cap management, it looks like the Oilers remain in strong favour to take the Western Conference berth in the 2018 Stanley Cup around betting sites around the world....

https://www.oddschecker.com/ice-hockey/nhl/stanley-cup/winne r


I think that people are starting to conflate expectations of the Oilers with actual accomplishments.

Again though, nice to see, but it means nothing really. This team hasn't won anything of note yet. They are raising no banners this fall (unless someone else plays a handful of shows in a row at Rogers Place). They've received no team hardware.

The team has a long road back to where they were. They've only gotten worse so far this summer. They lost 21 points in the Eberle trade, and there is no replacement yet for Sekera, who was the second most productive defenceman on the team while acting as the mitigating factor against the tire fire that was Kris Russell. The depth behind the first 5 defencemen is non-existent, even more so since Oesterle and Gryba are UFAs and Reinhart is a Golden Knight. Fayne is persona non-grata with the team, so who is going to play nightly until Christmas is still very much up in the air. Ziyat Piagin maybe? Dillon Simpson?

Hopefully there's more roster improvement to come this summer, because right now the lineup looks thin on right wing, thin on left wing and thin on defence. And goaltending is a major issue if Talbot is unable to play 70+ games again.

I really hope that Chiarelli's busy this summer and doesn't feel like this roster is close. And I hope that for once the Oilers brass will set a lofty goal for the team to strive for this year. The oddsmakers are, so management better be ready to follow suit.




I'm going to say it right now. I don't think we make playoffs. This team is a house built on sand. If Talbot can't compete for a vezina again. We're screwed.


I'm more worried about our defence, given Sekera is out for 1/3 to 1/2 the season. That could be a tough way to start the season and claw back from.

Which will put even more stress on Talbot. I think he's going to be pretty lonely back there at times.



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Wow. I figured we would be top 10, but #2? That's impressive.


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