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 Ryan Jones on waivers [message #607406]
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As per Oilers twitter

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@EdmontonOilers #Oilers place forward Ryan Jones on waivers.


So... is BigMac really taking his spot? Or did he just have a really bad camp/preseason?



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There were already rumours that R. Hamilton was beating Jones out of a spot long before we got SMac.

I don't like this. We'll probably lose a pretty useful bottom 6 player just because an AHL regular had a better handful of games. Not to mention the C on Jones' line has usually been Anton Lander, who did nothing in camp. Is Jones a victim of the Lander Triangle?



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 Re: Ryan Jones on waivers [message #607409 is a reply to message #607407 ]
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zoofarmcheater wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:10

There were already rumours that R. Hamilton was beating Jones out of a spot long before we got SMac.

I don't like this. We'll probably lose a pretty useful bottom 6 player just because an AHL regular had a better handful of games. Not to mention the C on Jones' line has usually been Anton Lander, who did nothing in camp. Is Jones a victim of the Lander Triangle?

Jones just didn't have a good enough camp, so I'm not surprised by this move one bit. Maybe it's a sign that Eakins' arrival has meant that the bar was raised, and Jones just couldn't clear it.



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 Re: Ryan Jones on waivers [message #607412 is a reply to message #607409 ]
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:14

zoofarmcheater wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:10

There were already rumours that R. Hamilton was beating Jones out of a spot long before we got SMac.

I don't like this. We'll probably lose a pretty useful bottom 6 player just because an AHL regular had a better handful of games. Not to mention the C on Jones' line has usually been Anton Lander, who did nothing in camp. Is Jones a victim of the Lander Triangle?

Jones just didn't have a good enough camp, so I'm not surprised by this move one bit. Maybe it's a sign that Eakins' arrival has meant that the bar was raised, and Jones just couldn't clear it.


Jones' lacklustre play goes all the way back to last year, he was never the same after his eye injury it seemed. I like Jones, but he has to be much better to be back in the NHL. Hopefully he takes this like a champ and responds well in OKC if he makes it there. In the meantime, I think Ryan Hamilton will be a good addition on the 4th line. I've liked what I've seen.



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 Re: Ryan Jones on waivers [message #607417 is a reply to message #607412 ]
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TeemaJeema wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:24


Jones' lacklustre play goes all the way back to last year, he was never the same after his eye injury it seemed. I like Jones, but he has to be much better to be back in the NHL. Hopefully he takes this like a champ and responds well in OKC if he makes it there. In the meantime, I think Ryan Hamilton will be a good addition on the 4th line. I've liked what I've seen.


Agreed, he didn't play well last season and it was more of the same this pre-season. Simply put, he plays with zero emotion. If it weren't for his $1.5M price I suspect someone would take the chance and he'd be claimed. Now, I'm not so sure.

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 Re: Ryan Jones on waivers [message #607408 is a reply to message #607406 ]
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Nerdkore wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:06

As per Oilers twitter

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@EdmontonOilers #Oilers place forward Ryan Jones on waivers.


So... is BigMac really taking his spot? Or did he just have a really bad camp/preseason?


Pretty unimpressed with his preseason as well as his last season. Maybe it's all because of his injury...who knows? Hopefully he can get it together if he's not claimed.



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I definitely did notice that Jones wasn't really the same after that eye injury and putting on the visor.


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 Re: Ryan Jones on waivers [message #607414 is a reply to message #607408 ]
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Jones is not good, but he's 5x the player Brown is; I've taken calculus, and I can't even calculate how much better Jones in than Big Mac.


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 Re: Ryan Jones on waivers [message #607420 is a reply to message #607414 ]
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Magnum wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:34

Jones is not good, but he's 5x the player Brown is; I've taken calculus, and I can't even calculate how much better Jones in than Big Mac.


Brown seems to be the king of looking like he's doing lots while actually accomplishing nothing. Been fooling coaches for a long time from the looks of it.



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oobga wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 09:51

Magnum wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:34

Jones is not good, but he's 5x the player Brown is; I've taken calculus, and I can't even calculate how much better Jones in than Big Mac.


Brown seems to be the king of looking like he's doing lots while actually accomplishing nothing. Been fooling coaches for a long time from the looks of it.


As much as I like Brown, have to agree. But he's the only guy that stands up for teammates and finishes checks so he gets a pass on accomplishment, for now.



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nullterm wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:55

oobga wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 09:51

Magnum wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:34

Jones is not good, but he's 5x the player Brown is; I've taken calculus, and I can't even calculate how much better Jones in than Big Mac.


Brown seems to be the king of looking like he's doing lots while actually accomplishing nothing. Been fooling coaches for a long time from the looks of it.


As much as I like Brown, have to agree. But he's the only guy that stands up for teammates and finishes checks so he gets a pass on accomplishment, for now.


He has a lot of energy and passion. He's probably be a lot more useful if he was 4 inches taller. Him and Gagner should start a club ;)

Speaking of Gagner and being taller. Gagner wouldn't be hurt right now if he was as tall as he should be. Stick woulda hit him in the chest icon_lol



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 Re: Ryan Jones on waivers [message #607453 is a reply to message #607420 ]
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oobga wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:51

Magnum wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:34

Jones is not good, but he's 5x the player Brown is; I've taken calculus, and I can't even calculate how much better Jones in than Big Mac.


Brown seems to be the king of looking like he's doing lots while actually accomplishing nothing. Been fooling coaches for a long time from the looks of it.


I thought this about Pitlick this training camp too. He hit lots, but looked terrible with the puck on the few times he ever actually got it on his stick. Never looked like a threat to score.

I think that a guy that goes out and rattles the boards always seems more impressive because it's memorable. A guy like, say, Dustin Penner, looks less impressive while doing a lot more.

As for Jones, that was a pretty quick loss of that bet. I'm still surprised that the Oilers send him down and tighten our cap situation on ourselves. Hamilton played well in training camp, but a) he's a 28 year old with 12 NHL games to his name...I don't see him having a huge impact and b) he's not going to play at least half the time anyhow, so why pay more money out overall to ice the exact same lineup.



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Speculating...it could be the fact Eakins is more comfortable with Hamilton than Jones. Knowing how hard he can push on Hamilton rather than Jones possibly?

Its not like Jones made it hard for Eakins to pick Hamilton. He needs to go down and find his game again.

Everybody is competing for a job, its not like a big secret. Jones knows his role and chose to be paralyzed by it. aAnd possibly thought he has a contract and NHL games he should be gifted a spot.


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Adam wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 12:26

oobga wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:51

Magnum wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:34

Jones is not good, but he's 5x the player Brown is; I've taken calculus, and I can't even calculate how much better Jones in than Big Mac.


Brown seems to be the king of looking like he's doing lots while actually accomplishing nothing. Been fooling coaches for a long time from the looks of it.


I thought this about Pitlick this training camp too. He hit lots, but looked terrible with the puck on the few times he ever actually got it on his stick. Never looked like a threat to score.

I think that a guy that goes out and rattles the boards always seems more impressive because it's memorable. A guy like, say, Dustin Penner, looks less impressive while doing a lot more.

As for Jones, that was a pretty quick loss of that bet. I'm still surprised that the Oilers send him down and tighten our cap situation on ourselves. Hamilton played well in training camp, but a) he's a 28 year old with 12 NHL games to his name...I don't see him having a huge impact and b) he's not going to play at least half the time anyhow, so why pay more money out overall to ice the exact same lineup.


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For the record, I'm not actually conceding. He gets claimed or called up and I still think he beats Creaky Cranky Smytty.


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Adam wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 12:45

For the record, I'm not actually conceding. He gets claimed or called up and I still think he beats Creaky Cranky Smytty.


Alright, I wait.

Like a lion waiting for a hamburger, which is made out of beef.



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Magnum wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 13:00

Adam wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 12:45

For the record, I'm not actually conceding. He gets claimed or called up and I still think he beats Creaky Cranky Smytty.


Alright, I wait.

Like a lion waiting for a hamburger, which is made out of beef.


And coincidentally, a hamburger likely is part of the proceeds of this bet...



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 Re: Ryan Jones on waivers [message #607410 is a reply to message #607406 ]
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Jones has been pretty terrible for a while now, not just in camp. I think I'll chalk this up as MacT's first major misstep. Should never have re-signed him in the first place. $1.5 million!


Then I'll just regress, because I feel I've made myself perfectly redundant.

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 Re: Ryan Jones on waivers [message #607415 is a reply to message #607406 ]
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I wouldn't count Jones out yet. I mentioned it in another thread, but the last training camp he had he looked awful; I remember being really upset about Gilbert Brule being waived in place of Ryan Jones because I felt Brule badly outplayed Jones. Jones then went on to score 17 goals that season and proved to be a valuable player.

I don't know if he'll clear waivers or not. On a cheaper contract I'd say he wouldn't. On his current deal? Maybe 50/50. I could see someone taking a chance on him with a one-year deal.

As I mentioned before, I would have kept Jones over Eager, partly because Jones has proved me wrong before, partly because I think Eager is somewhat redundant, and partly because I don't know how effective Eager can be with his head problems.

The bottom line though is that Jones knew he was on the bubble and got outplayed by Hamilton, Eager, Joensuu, and possibly Brown (though I didn't really think Brown had a great preseason either). If MacIntyre isn't here, Jones is still on this club with the chance to work himself into the lineup; maybe he returns to 17-goal form like the last time he underwhelmed in camp. And so there's a certain sad irony in that in seeing his good buddy return to the Oilers, Jones may have lost his own job with the club.



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Jones didn't seem to give a crap, watched him last night, still didn't bring anything, he didn't have a bad camp, this is an extension of last year. He was the master of his own demise. I liked the guy, so he pisses me off that he played like such a puss.


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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:41

. I liked the guy, so he pisses me off that he played like such a puss.


Me too!



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Mars wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 09:43

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:41

. I liked the guy, so he pisses me off that he played like such a puss.


Me too!



Exactly. He got out played in camp, this is the end result.

It's not the eye injury that derailed him, it's how he's reacted to it. Didn't finish his checks in training camp, simple as that.



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nullterm wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 09:54

Mars wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 09:43

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:41

. I liked the guy, so he pisses me off that he played like such a puss.


Me too!



Exactly. He got out played in camp, this is the end result.

It's not the eye injury that derailed him, it's how he's reacted to it. Didn't finish his checks in training camp, simple as that.


Exactly, that has been the Oiler disease for the past few years, Jones was moved to quarantine.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 11:20

Exactly, that has been the Oiler disease for the past few years, Jones was moved to quarantine.


Come to think of it, that ugly bottom 6 from the past few years has basically ALL been taken away. Instead of:

Smyth/Paajarvi-Horcoff-Hartikainen/Jones
Eager-Belanger/Lander-Petrell

It's probably going to be:

Joensuu-Gordon-Yakupov
Hamilton-Acton-(returning RW)

Smyth won't last with Hall & Hemksy forever, and that last RW spot will be either Eager or Brown, but for now, 5 of the starting bottom 6 guys will be brand new at it. I'm hoping Yakupov eventually flips spots with Smyth, but it is nice to see a lot of new faces, when our bottom 6 the last few years have been terrible.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:41

Jones didn't seem to give a crap, watched him last night, still didn't bring anything, he didn't have a bad camp, this is an extension of last year. He was the master of his own demise. I liked the guy, so he pisses me off that he played like such a puss.


Exactly! And I find it refreshing that a guy didn't make the team out of camp when he did not deserve simply because he was on a 1 way deal.



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Anybody remember when Jones gave his little speech about how he was planning to come in this season with a much more physical game, and give the bottom 6 what it needed?

He literally did non of that this preseason. I liked him, but he just brought non of that to the table.

And really, how hard is it to lay some hits?



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@jonesry28 no longer exists. Deleted his twitter.


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It is nice that we have people battling for spots not like years ago when if you made the team last year you make it this year.


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hemskyfan99 wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 11:13

It is nice that we have people battling for spots not like years ago when if you made the team last year you make it this year.


I go back to what MacT said in that presser at the end of last year about some guys being in the lineup who just weren't playing to be any kind of a factor most nights. Was happy he said it, am happier now that it's clear he meant it.

Have always liked Jones but this move is a step forward for this organization in terms of mindset.



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nullterm wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 11:11

@jonesry28 no longer exists. Deleted his twitter.

Sounds like he is taking this hard. He loved this city, so I could understand.



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Hemmer2Eberle wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:19

nullterm wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 11:11

@jonesry28 no longer exists. Deleted his twitter.

Sounds like he is taking this hard. He loved this city, so I could understand.


I feel for the guy as a person. Definitely. Loved his story as a player. Felt the same way when Stortini was cut loose.

But as a pro hockey player making over a million bucks, it's simple cause & effect when you aren't giving the team a reason to keep you. I was keeping an eye on him shift to shift in camp because I wondered how he was doing and he spent most of his time looking and waiting for easy spots to get a goal. When he should have been grinding, forechecking, and hitting. Just not gonna cut it.



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nullterm wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:42

Hemmer2Eberle wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 10:19

nullterm wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 11:11

@jonesry28 no longer exists. Deleted his twitter.

Sounds like he is taking this hard. He loved this city, so I could understand.


I feel for the guy as a person. Definitely. Loved his story as a player. Felt the same way when Stortini was cut loose.

But as a pro hockey player making over a million bucks, it's simple cause & effect when you aren't giving the team a reason to keep you. I was keeping an eye on him shift to shift in camp because I wondered how he was doing and he spent most of his time looking and waiting for easy spots to get a goal. When he should have been grinding, forechecking, and hitting. Just not gonna cut it.


Don't feel too bad for the guy, even if he never plays in the NHL again, he's got a few more $ million in the bank than 99.9% of Canadians will ever have. I think he has aquired a pretty good head start in life to say the least, he'll be "OK".

Besides, he knew what he had to do to keep his job, he just didn't have the smarts, and/or mental toughness to do it.

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I will say this: the fact that our entire fourth line played in the AHL last year (and 5 of our 16 forwards total, not including Joensuu who played in Finland) is a little concerning. At least with Jones he was playing in the NHL against NHL-competition. He may have struggled, but it was the top league in the world.

Having Acton, MacIntyre, Joensuu, Arcobello, Hamilton, and Eager in your group of forwards doesn't necessarily inspire a lot of confidence. Some may prove to be NHL-ready; hopefully that is the case. But until we start playing NHL competition, I'll be concerned that all we did was replace depth rather than upgrade depth (not including defense which I'm feeling better about than I have for a while).



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@Struds1260: IMO Ryan Jones looks frozen while playing. He is over thinking his game. Make it super simple...4check,hit and shoot.

Some perspective from former player and teammate.



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Thought Elliot Freidman's tweets were interesting:

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RT @FriedgeHNIC Hearing EDM's Ryan Jones is going on waivers today...also told Oilers said his EDM/NHL career is not over if he works on his game


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RT @FriedgeHNIC Jones had a long road back from his eye injury...think Oilers are very sensitive to that.



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I think this was a bad move. Hamilton and Acton are garbage. More if the old boys club. I get acton because he is a centre but Hamilton really?! Smack was also a waste of a contract. MacT is running out of free passes.


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Mullet wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 18:05

I think this was a bad move. Hamilton and Acton are garbage. More if the old boys club. I get acton because he is a centre but Hamilton really?! Smack was also a waste of a contract. MacT is running out of free passes.


For all the talk of accountability and changing the culture under Eakins, how could they not waive Jones? He had a mediocre camp. Had they kept him people could have lobbed the counter argument "Why is Jones still here, he wasn't good, old boys club!"

The only good scenario was if 28 played his butt off so they couldn't cut him, and he didn't.



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I agree with accountability and I am only a fan not a trained pro but I thought that there were a few more that should have went before jones. Not suggesting that jones shouldn't have been cut but acton, arcebello (sp), smack, acton all are not NHL calibre players and should have been cut first.


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Mullet wrote on Wed, 25 September 2013 20:04

I agree with accountability and I am only a fan not a trained pro but I thought that there were a few more that should have went before jones. Not suggesting that jones shouldn't have been cut but acton, arcebello (sp), smack, acton all are not NHL calibre players and should have been cut first.



The problem with that outlook is that Acton and Arcobello are centers and Jones is strictly a winger.

You can make an argument that Jones has more skill but in terms of need, we need centers and we have an excess of wingers who aren't scoring. That's why Omark was sent out as well.



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