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As per TSN 1260, probably from the Oilers.com

Bouchard called up. Bear sent down, which may be unrelated.

Details to follow when someone gets them.

[Updated on: Thu, 03 October 2019 11:34]


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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743861 is a reply to message #743858 ]
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What the hell? When did this happen? And Bear sent down? To be honest, I don't like a single thing about your post.


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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743865 is a reply to message #743861 ]
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Mike wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:44

What the hell? When did this happen? And Bear sent down? To be honest, I don't like a single thing about your post.

Sorry buddy, sometimes I say things to hurt people.



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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743871 is a reply to message #743865 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:45

Mike wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:44

What the hell? When did this happen? And Bear sent down? To be honest, I don't like a single thing about your post.

Sorry buddy, sometimes I say things to hurt people.


He took a hard slapshot off the foot/ankle during a fourth line mad scramble/runaround panic/vintage Oilers' defensive meltdown. I think he was the only guy who knew whuhduhfuh was going on and took one for the team.



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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743882 is a reply to message #743871 ]
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stemhovlichski wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:25

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:45

Mike wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:44

What the hell? When did this happen? And Bear sent down? To be honest, I don't like a single thing about your post.

Sorry buddy, sometimes I say things to hurt people.


He took a hard slapshot off the foot/ankle during a fourth line mad scramble/runaround panic/vintage Oilers' defensive meltdown. I think he was the only guy who knew whuhduhfuh was going on and took one for the team.


Yeah, I saw that shot, he was going off after he got hit, but had to stay to finish off the fire drill... if its LTIR probably broken?

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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743886 is a reply to message #743882 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 13:51


My pairs;

Klefbom - Persson
Nurse - Bear
Russell - Benning/Bouchard


Wow is that an inexperienced backend.

There's no way Benning is coming out. He had two assists and a decent game, despite playing with the team's worst defenceman.




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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743905 is a reply to message #743886 ]
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Adam wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 14:46

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 13:51


My pairs;

Klefbom - Persson
Nurse - Bear
Russell - Benning/Bouchard


Wow is that an inexperienced backend.

There's no way Benning is coming out. He had two assists and a decent game, despite playing with the team's worst defenceman.




Two raw rookies and Matt Benning on that right side. Not great.

Mark Pysyk is a healthy scratch in Florida. Expiring deal at the end of the year. Probably worth a phone call.



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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743910 is a reply to message #743905 ]
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mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 17:27

Adam wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 14:46

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 13:51


My pairs;

Klefbom - Persson
Nurse - Bear
Russell - Benning/Bouchard


Wow is that an inexperienced backend.

There's no way Benning is coming out. He had two assists and a decent game, despite playing with the team's worst defenceman.




Two raw rookies and Matt Benning on that right side. Not great.

Mark Pysyk is a healthy scratch in Florida. Expiring deal at the end of the year. Probably worth a phone call.

Don't know much about this Pysyk guys but have seen others talking about him as a possibility. My question is whether he would actually help or if he would be Manning Part Two?



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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743912 is a reply to message #743910 ]
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 20:05

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 17:27

Adam wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 14:46

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 13:51


My pairs;

Klefbom - Persson
Nurse - Bear
Russell - Benning/Bouchard


Wow is that an inexperienced backend.

There's no way Benning is coming out. He had two assists and a decent game, despite playing with the team's worst defenceman.




Two raw rookies and Matt Benning on that right side. Not great.

Mark Pysyk is a healthy scratch in Florida. Expiring deal at the end of the year. Probably worth a phone call.

Don't know much about this Pysyk guys but have seen others talking about him as a possibility. My question is whether he would actually help or if he would be Manning Part Two?



Pysyk is a former Oil King. 5 seasons he played for them. It's only a matter of time until he's an Oiler.



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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743913 is a reply to message #743912 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 20:13

Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 20:05

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 17:27

Adam wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 14:46

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 13:51


My pairs;

Klefbom - Persson
Nurse - Bear
Russell - Benning/Bouchard


Wow is that an inexperienced backend.

There's no way Benning is coming out. He had two assists and a decent game, despite playing with the team's worst defenceman.




Two raw rookies and Matt Benning on that right side. Not great.

Mark Pysyk is a healthy scratch in Florida. Expiring deal at the end of the year. Probably worth a phone call.

Don't know much about this Pysyk guys but have seen others talking about him as a possibility. My question is whether he would actually help or if he would be Manning Part Two?



Pysyk is a former Oil King. 5 seasons he played for them. It's only a matter of time until he's an Oiler.

We’ll see what Mr. Full Automomy has to say about that.



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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743921 is a reply to message #743910 ]
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 20:05

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 17:27

Adam wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 14:46

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 13:51


My pairs;

Klefbom - Persson
Nurse - Bear
Russell - Benning/Bouchard


Wow is that an inexperienced backend.

There's no way Benning is coming out. He had two assists and a decent game, despite playing with the team's worst defenceman.




Two raw rookies and Matt Benning on that right side. Not great.

Mark Pysyk is a healthy scratch in Florida. Expiring deal at the end of the year. Probably worth a phone call.

Don't know much about this Pysyk guys but have seen others talking about him as a possibility. My question is whether he would actually help or if he would be Manning Part Two?



The analytics community LOVES him. I think he is probably overvalued somewhat in those circles, but he is affordable, has an expiring contract at the end of the season, and has some NHL experience and success. I think if the price is right, I'd prefer that than banking hopes on Joel Persson, Kris Russell, and Matt Benning.


EDIT: He may be regressing. He was an "analytics darling" (Buffalo GMs comment) when he was moved, but looks like he is getting passed over in Florida and hasn't been the same player there. Lots in the community still think highly of him, but it might be more on past reputation than current play. Basically sounds like last year he was another version of Adam Larsson or a RH Kris Russell. https://www.therattrick.com/2019/02/20/florida-panthers-shou ld-start-shopping-mark-pysyk/amp/

[Updated on: Fri, 04 October 2019 09:14]


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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743914 is a reply to message #743905 ]
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mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 17:27

Adam wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 14:46

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 13:51


My pairs;

Klefbom - Persson
Nurse - Bear
Russell - Benning/Bouchard


Wow is that an inexperienced backend.

There's no way Benning is coming out. He had two assists and a decent game, despite playing with the team's worst defenceman.




Two raw rookies and Matt Benning on that right side. Not great.

Mark Pysyk is a healthy scratch in Florida. Expiring deal at the end of the year. Probably worth a phone call.


I’ve had just about enough of other teams’ over-paid healthy scratches.

I’ve never been sold on Pysyk. Oilers media love him because he was an Oil King but he’s another low offence guy with questionable puck-moving abilities. I’d rather play the inexperienced guys.



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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743915 is a reply to message #743914 ]
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Bear and Bouchard moves are cap/LTIR related... I think... I've read this explanation a few times and still don't get it.

https://twitter.com/bobloblaw021/status/1179833259426865152? s=20



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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743875 is a reply to message #743865 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:45

Mike wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:44

What the hell? When did this happen? And Bear sent down? To be honest, I don't like a single thing about your post.

Sorry buddy, sometimes I say things to hurt people.

The good news is we now have a built-in reason to tank the season.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sportsnets-2020-nhl-draf t-prospect-rankings-october/



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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743876 is a reply to message #743875 ]
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 12:51

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:45

Mike wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:44

What the hell? When did this happen? And Bear sent down? To be honest, I don't like a single thing about your post.

Sorry buddy, sometimes I say things to hurt people.

The good news is we now have a built-in reason to tank the season.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sportsnets-2020-nhl-draf t-prospect-rankings-october/


Our LW depth is gonna be even more epic after the 2021 draft

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 12:54

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 12:51

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:45

Mike wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:44

What the hell? When did this happen? And Bear sent down? To be honest, I don't like a single thing about your post.

Sorry buddy, sometimes I say things to hurt people.

The good news is we now have a built-in reason to tank the season.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sportsnets-2020-nhl-draf t-prospect-rankings-october/


Our LW depth is gonna be even more epic after the 2021 draft

https://liiga.fi/fi/pelaajat/31899057/raty-aatu

I want them to pick Drysdale so the announcers can trip over passing plays between him and Draisatl



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 Re: Adam Larsson on LTIR [message #743878 is a reply to message #743876 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 12:54

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 12:51

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:45

Mike wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:44

What the hell? When did this happen? And Bear sent down? To be honest, I don't like a single thing about your post.

Sorry buddy, sometimes I say things to hurt people.

The good news is we now have a built-in reason to tank the season.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sportsnets-2020-nhl-draf t-prospect-rankings-october/


Our LW depth is gonna be even more epic after the 2021 draft

https://liiga.fi/fi/pelaajat/31899057/raty-aatu


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No more Nurse/Larsson pair for a while??

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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:32

As per TSN 1260, probably from the Oilers.com

Bouchard called up. Bear sent down, which may be unrelated.

Details to follow when someone gets them.

Apparently Bear being sent down is a paper transaction which means he will not actually go to Bakersfield, particularly since word is that Persson should be good to go for Saturday.

First game of the season, and the Oil had to pay for their win by losing one of their main D on LTIR. This is serious horse%@$#.



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 13:42

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 11:32

As per TSN 1260, probably from the Oilers.com

Bouchard called up. Bear sent down, which may be unrelated.

Details to follow when someone gets them.

Apparently Bear being sent down is a paper transaction which means he will not actually go to Bakersfield, particularly since word is that Persson should be good to go for Saturday.

First game of the season, and the Oil had to pay for their win by losing one of their main D on LTIR. This is serious horse%@$#.

It sounds like somebody isn't trusting the process.



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Update on Oilers defenceman Adam Larsson. It's actually a fractured right fibula. He'll be out of action for six to eight weeks.


Assume from that big block. Did that sequence start because of some fail arse plays by a 4th liner?



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 14:33

Daniel Nugent-Bowman @DNBsports
Update on Oilers defenceman Adam Larsson. It's actually a fractured right fibula. He'll be out of action for six to eight weeks.


Assume from that big block. Did that sequence start because of some fail arse plays by a 4th liner?

icon_eek

The term "fractured fibula" makes my skin crawl. Better than I femur, I guess, but I still don't like it.

Also: dude played half a game on a fracture fibula. Damn.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 13:36

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 14:33

Daniel Nugent-Bowman @DNBsports
Update on Oilers defenceman Adam Larsson. It's actually a fractured right fibula. He'll be out of action for six to eight weeks.


Assume from that big block. Did that sequence start because of some fail arse plays by a 4th liner?

icon_eek

The term "fractured fibula" makes my skin crawl. Better than I femur, I guess, but I still don't like it.

Also: dude played half a game on a fracture fibula. Damn.



Must be just a crack, no displacement, otherwise they'd need a plate and screws, should be ok after some mending.. not sure about that D though... Thankfully E. Bear is looking NHL legit.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 14:36

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 03 October 2019 14:33

Daniel Nugent-Bowman @DNBsports
Update on Oilers defenceman Adam Larsson. It's actually a fractured right fibula. He'll be out of action for six to eight weeks.


Assume from that big block. Did that sequence start because of some fail arse plays by a 4th liner?

icon_eek

The term "fractured fibula" makes my skin crawl. Better than I femur, I guess, but I still don't like it.

Also: dude played half a game on a fracture fibula. Damn.


This is like the Oilers "Bobby Baun" moment minus a game winning goal in a Stanley Cup Final game.



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Sounds like the Bear/Bouchard move was a straight up paper transaction to maximize the LTIR. Could it be that the Oilers are actually learning how to maximize the cap??


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Greeeeaaaat.


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